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Dion Waiters

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Approx. transcript time · 00:50:09Read transcript
  • The award goes to someone with very little screen time who makes the most of it, and this is called a unanimous election for Sidney Pollack, an acclaimed director in his own right who was born to play Marty Bach; the clip is played of Marty reading Arthur's files and realizing he is building a case against U North.
  • Michael O'Keefe, Dennis O'Hare and Merit Weaver (as transcribed) are floated as other candidates; one voice is sold on Pollack despite having tried to dethrone him with Chris Cooper purely out of loyalty to Cooper, and a further 'I have to go Sidney Pollack, too' follows.
  • In retrospect it is an elegiac role, since Pollack died about six months after the film came out; IMDb shows his actual final acting credit was the 2008 rom-com Maid of Honor (as transcribed), one of the great title puns, which one participant saw in the theater while skipping Michael Clayton; this is counted as his final performance, a fitting homage to the films he directed and to his presence as an actor.
  • Pollack makes Marty so lived in, sunken eyes and all, that it has a trickle-down effect on everyone else's performances; Dennis O'Hare, as the man who does the hit and run in his Jaguar, is in the truest sense of the Dion Waiters Award probably the winner and will get a different award, but Pollack does the most with the time he has on screen.
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  • The listed candidates are Tom Hardy as Eames, Lucas Haas, a member of the Pussy Posse assumed to have been cast as Nash as a favor to Leo, and the work of M.C. Escher.
  • Lucas Haas being in this is called incredible, a flex of incredible proportions by Leonardo DiCaprio: he said yes and kept hanging out with Leo long enough to be in a Christopher Nolan movie for five seconds and collect a check, with the hosts guessing his two scenes took about a week to shoot and that he gets to tell people in bars he played the architect.
  • Asked for candidates, the response borrows dorm-room philosophy from the list but declines to answer the prompt, redirecting to whether anyone remembers when they first saw the film; this host was certain it was in a Syracuse dorm with college friends, yet the film came out two years after graduation while she was working in New York, a bizarre discovery made while rewatching with her husband Adam. — Mallory Rubin
  • That false memory is said to be the problem with the movie: it is the literal version of the hits-blunt-once meme, so base level that described plainly, a dream inside a dream, a hallway fight, then snow, it sounds silly, like the first time you partake and think you understand everything.
  • Hans Zimmer is floated with the caveat that he may not fit the bill, since his influential theme dominates the movie to the point of hurting one listener's ears; he is called more than a role player, maybe bigger than Dion Waiters.
  • The film's only pop song is Edith Piaf's 'Non, je ne regrette rien', a strange choice given Marion Cotillard played Piaf in La Vie en Rose, over whose closing credits the song plays; this host's pick is Hardy as the heat check.
  • Hardy was just coming up when cast and thought Nolan hired him for Bronson, the Nicholas Winningrath (as transcribed) film where he plays a British criminal, only to learn on set it was for RocknRolla, a bad Guy Ritchie movie; the hosts ask why he is not one of the biggest stars in the world, a Mel Gibson in 1989, and note that after this he went to a one-for-them, five-for-me formula and now does zero for them, appearing in the Dutch East India Company show Taboo.
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  • The first category is introduced as the Dion Waiters Award for best heat check performance by a role player; nominees open with Scott Conn (as transcribed) as Tweeter, described as Wes Welker crossed with Charlie Sheen and as a blatant rip-off of Mac Davis's character in North Dallas 40, then Amy Smart as Jules, the wet-blanket girlfriend who exists to bring the hero down, with Crank, Crank 2 with Jason Statham and Road Trip recalled.
  • Asked for Amy Smart thoughts, has none at first, then offers one: she is great in Butterfly Effect. — Shea Serrano
  • Ali Larder (as transcribed) as Lance's original girlfriend who switches her attention to Mox in the hospital before Lance has even been operated on; her line that this is not about love but about her future is respected as honest, her dream of going to FSU and Tallahassee is mocked, and her debut is compared to Magic Johnson in the 1980 finals.
  • Billy Bob is called the greatest fat guy in sports movie history, with a debate over whether he has a last name at all, since he is once called William Robert; the last nominee is Miss Davis, the teacher slash stripper.
  • Asked who wins, first tries John Voight (as transcribed), then gives Ali Larder. — Shea Serrano
  • Voight is ruled ineligible as a starter who is too big for the award; Larder is called 100% the answer, since nothing is a bigger heat check than the whipped cream bikini, the scene friends told you to see the movie for; an underrated Darcy moment at the party, suggesting the dryer do the work, is debated as noise cover versus an assist.
  • In the whipped cream scene something is visibly taped on to cover her rear when she walks up from the side, odd modesty given the rest of the costume and a scene where a fat guy throws up hot dogs into the washer; nobody at a football party does laundry; she has only about seven scenes, two on the dryer and one changing in the car on the way from the hospital where her boyfriend's knee was torn up.
  • Agreement that it is Allie Larder, but Scott Conn's performance should not be slept on: of anyone in the movie he was the spin-off candidate, and a Tweeter half-hour sitcom on Fox would have absolutely worked.
In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 00:50:30Read transcript
  • Nominees are Casey Affleck, Minnie Driver, Cole Hauser, Professor Lambeau and Lambeau's TA, who seemed in love with Lambeau and became immediately threatened by Will Hunting; Robin Williams is not made eligible; honorable mention to George Plimpton as the psychiatrist Will psychs out by calling him gay.
  • Casey Affleck is proposed as a great heat check performance, and later a host says they have Casey for this: a nothing part he made fun and really interesting, impossible to describe, with the joke that Affleck is the Dion Waiters whose brother Rion gets enough field goal attempts.
  • Stellan Skarsgård is called high level: doing a lot of crazy stuff, and on rewatch a huge creep, the classic professor hitting on students, asking for a drink and calling Skylar too; he sells the tortured genius who realizes there is someone more genius than he is; no casting what-if was found for his role; Casey has nine of the movie's 20 best lines.
  • It is between Casey and Skarsgård, but the pick is Cole Hauser, because there was not enough of him; the best Cole Hauser part is the back of the car, when Cole is messing with Casey, Casey says he is going to fight him now, and the smile drops off Cole's face as he is ready to go. — Shea Serrano
  • Hauser should have only ever played that character and been an action guy, in some movie where somebody kidnapped his daughter, or Paparazzi; he is good whenever unhinged, including as the bad guy in Too Fast, Too Furious despite the dyed hair; he is the darkest, scariest guy in the crew, who has absolutely killed somebody: even Matt Damon warns Clark and Ben Affleck tells Casey to get out of the car, but Cole never says anything and is just in the action.
  • A tangent on dangerous but fun bars in Philly and Boston, where neighborhood drifting has faded with gentrification; one host lived in Charlestown two minutes from the original Sully's, townies only, where he would have gotten the shit kicked out of him, and Cole's stare at the table when Casey Affleck pisses him off is deep Boston.
  • Honorable mention heat check to the screenwriters for naming a guy Carmine Scarpaglia, a heat-check move to show there are Irish guys and Italian guys, like Italian movie name bingo.
In the discussion (4)
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  • Nobody is sure what the award means, but all agree Andrew Keegan wins it: someone on fire and punching above their weight class; his lines are played as a clip.
  • Keegan is a prick in all the right ways, from showing off two modeling photos, this one or this one, to calling someone a cheese dick, a great nineties bully term; the modeling at the party is iconic.
  • It is clearly Keegan because nothing in his filmography comes close, though Camp Nowhere is defended as a good Keegan performance.
  • Keegan's heat check is also called his apex, a real Dion Waiters move; he burned hot and fast in this movie.
Zodiac The Rewatchables
In the discussion (8)
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  • Before the nominees, a moment in the credits is called possibly the best in the film: after Gyllenhaal, Ruffalo and Downey, the names Brian Cox, John Carol Lynch, Elias Codius, Dermot Malroney and Donal Loge (as transcribed) appear, a that-guy all-star team; Malroney as Captain Marty Lee is loved and Cox as Melvin Belli really makes the most of his moment.
  • More favorites: Philip Baker Hall as Sherwood, the handwriting specialist who starts drinking a little; Clea Duvall, with a great heat-check scene; John Goetz (as transcribed), from Blood Simple, as the Chronicle editor; and Anthony Edwards, fantastic and unexpected.
  • One pick gives the award specifically to Cox, with the Melvin Belli phone-call clip played, 'Is there something I can call you that's a little less ominous?', for making the most of his few moments, the television interview, the sincere attempt to offer the caller a lifeline, and the way he physically takes the incredible screaming sound.
  • Jimmy Simpson (as transcribed), who plays the shooting victim at the start and returns at the end, prompts a detail: the character is Mike Mageau, and when the name is reported over the Vallejo PD wire it is said aloud in the newsroom as 'Mayhew', so the film intentionally misleads in a way that was probably true to how it was said, an obsessive Fincherism; James LeGroix (as transcribed) is good and weird, and Zach Granier (as transcribed), the boss in Fight Club, runs the Vallejo police department.
  • A second pick is Elias Codius (as transcribed) as Detective Mullinax (as transcribed), a great real name: a that-guy who can shoot when given the ball, known to the hosts' generation as Casey from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, a guy who looks like a cop and rarely gets a stage this large, and a great serial killer in Fallen with Denzel Washington, directed by Gregory Hoblitz (as transcribed).
  • Asked directly for a winner, a third pick is John Carroll Lynch as Arthur Lee Allen, with the 'Nobody calls me Arthur' clip: the role basically made the second half of his career, he directed the last film starring Harry Dean Stan (as transcribed) this year, and he is a well-known theater actor remembered as Norm in bed with Francis McNormand (as transcribed) at the end of Fargo.
  • Asked whether the film still works with a huge star like Anthony Hopkins as Arthur, the answer is not as well: it has to be a face whose physical presence unsettles because you feel you could have seen him without knowing why, since viewers bring previous films into the room and would read a famous actor as an important part; the misdirect succeeds because the only place to remember Lynch is Fargo, where Norm is a completely different, friendly disposition.
  • Later, the Ioni Sky (as transcribed) roadside scene is called another Dion Waiters performance and the hardest scene for one host to watch.
The Silence of the Lambs

Casting What-Ifs

Gene Hackman co-owned the rights and planned to direct and possibly play Jack Crawford before backing out; Sean Connery and Jeremy Irons turned down Lecter; Ed Harris turned down Crawford because he wanted Lecter; Michelle Pfeiffer, the first choice for Clarice, and Meg Ryan turned it down; Redford, Hoffman and Robert Duvall are mentioned as Lecter possibilities

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  • The book rights were originally bought 50-50 by Mike Medavoy at Orion and Gene Hackman, who was going to direct and maybe star or just play Jack Crawford; one host says Hackman still should have played Crawford, though Scott Glenn is amazing.
  • Ted Talley (as transcribed) was hired to write what is called one of the great screenplays of the last 30 or 40 years; after the controversial Mississippi Burning, Hackman's daughter told him the film was too violent, he backed out, Orion paid him back his half and brought on Jonathan Demme, who began looking for a Lecter.
  • Sean Connery reportedly refused outright, calling the role grotesque, and Jeremy Irons would not do it either, possibly because he did not want to play two villains in a row after Reversal of Fortune; the hosts try Connery's voice on the fava beans line and conclude it would not work.
  • Ed Harris turned down Jack Crawford because he wanted Lecter, which is jokingly called a heat check and a little Dion Waiters of him.
  • Michelle Pfeiffer, first choice for Clarice, turned it down as too violent after working with Demme on Married to the Mob, and one host thinks that would have been really cool; Meg Ryan also passed at a time she was offered everything, which led to her casting in The Doors.
  • With Gene Hackman as Lecter the film could have gone badly wrong, the hosts say, and it would now be stuck on a minor cable channel at two in the morning.
  • Later, during research, the hosts are happy with Scott Glenn as Crawford over Tommy Lee Jones, cannot see Jones as Lecter, are glad Lecter was not Redford, Hoffman or Robert Duvall, and wonder whether Daniel Day Lewis was too early for it.
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  • Introduced as a new category, the nominees are John C. McGinley as a stereotypical loud, angry police chief, James LaGrosse (as transcribed) as one of the surfers, Beecher from Oz as Rosie, Anthony Kiedis and Tom Sizemore; one host goes John, Dr. Cox every time over everybody.
  • Another goes with James Legros as Roach, for his heavy surfer-accent line about how small the cold water leaves him feeling, with a pinching gesture, and 'you didn't tell me it was gonna be like this, man'; someone bought Legros stock in 1991, and the role is likened to Valkeem Kilmer (as transcribed) in Heat, the supporting robber you root for when he gets shot.
  • Picks the unidentified actor from the first, violent surfing gang who surfs into Johnny Utah and decides it is time to pull a switchblade. — Mark Titus
  • The switchblade scene set the tone that surfing is serious, against Bodhi's nonviolent mantra of only showing the guns; a host asks who swims with a switchblade and jokes about expecting Shay to say he used to.
  • Later, during best quote, McGinley's going-for-it line delivery is called a Dion Waiters, shooting every time he gets the ball.
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