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Caddyshack

1980 film

Bill Simmons · Sean Fennessey

Aired August 18, 2020

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Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Smales carried more clubs; Michael O'Keefe is a legend among actor-athletes

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Approx. transcript time · 01:27:50Read transcript
  • Who carried more clubs, Smales or Al? Both had two putters and were over the limit; Smales, who thinks he needs every wood, despite the size of Al's bag.
  • Greatest sports-movie putt: Happy Gilmore or Danny winning the caddy tournament amid "Noonan" taunts on a bumpy green, called incredible; a preference for the final-hole sequence in Tin Cup is also voiced.
  • Did the movie create the word "Poon Tang"? Unknown, with a case that it did; an Apex Mountain joke about it is spared.
  • What happened to Rodney Dangerfield after Caddyshack and Back to School? Ladybugs, which was in HBO rotation with Vanessa Shaw called the Cindy Morgan of a generation, plus Rover Dangerfield.
  • Is it better if the gopher is in Maggie's car when Carl blows it up? Blowing up Maggie is not supported; the compromise is she returns in a sling.
  • Where does Michael O'Keefe rank among actor-athletes? Legend, with a great swing and a run of The Great Santini, Caddyshack, Split Image and The Slugger's Wife; he should have been in Tin Cup.
  • Do they still sell Baby Ruth bars? It was Nestle for a time, and many bars of that era faded; one participant is not a chocolate fan.
  • Why was there never a Caddyshack video game, such as Golden Tee or PGA Tour 93, with Noonan, Denunzio, Smales, Ty or Lou as playable characters?
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
In the discussion (8)
Approx. transcript time · 01:14:30Read transcript
  • Michael O'Keefe is at Apex, coming off The Great Santini into the funniest movie of the year; with Tim Hutton he was a young actor to watch before Sean Penn's class eclipsed them.
  • Dangerfield's Apex is placed in the mid-80s with Back to School, when he became a draw, plus HBO specials breaking Sam Kinnison and Bill Maher; both participants agree.
  • Ted Knight: career-wise no, since Mary Tyler Moore is his Apex, but retroactively this became his legacy; Too Close for Comfort gets love.
  • Chevy Chase: no, he got it for Fletch; Bill Murray: no, though his six days of work are pure and golden.
  • Cindy Morgan: sadly, yes.
  • Cocaine is argued as at Apex, before its damage was widely known and while it fueled the film's disjointed creativity; the other participant is uncomfortable placing it on the mountain.
  • Baby Ruth bars peak with Goonies instead.
  • Golf is argued for 1980, citing Jack Nicholas winning two majors, Tom Watson the British and a rising star taking the Masters; the Tiger Woods Mike Douglas appearance is checked; the reply is a hesitant "yes, I guess."
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

Half-Assed Internet Research

Doyle Murray's caddy memories; 11-week 1979 shoot; Carl absent from early drafts; stunt double for Lacey's dive; O'Keefe avoiding golf for 25 years; Denunzio actor dating Cindy Morgan; deleted Carl-Ty scene

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Approx. transcript time · 01:12:20Read transcript
  • The film was inspired by writer and co-star Doyle Murray's memories of caddying at the Indian Hill Club, where his brothers and Ramis also caddied.
  • It shot for 11 weeks in 1979 with golf scenes in Florida; Carl Spackler was not in early drafts, which centered a Danny-Maggie-Denunzio love triangle.
  • A stunt double did Lacey's dive because Cindy Morgan could not see without her contacts.
  • Michael O'Keefe would not play golf for 25 years because people watched and judged him on the course.
  • Scott Columbia (as transcribed) and Cindy Morgan dated for two years after the movie, so Denunzio "won in real life."
  • A deleted scene on YouTube has Carl teaching Ty to hit with Danny caddying, deleted for a reason.
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

Casting What-Ifs

Mickey Rourke as Danny; Michelle Pfeiffer as Lacey; Bo Derek as Lacey; Don Rickles as Al; Pink Floyd for the music

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Approx. transcript time · 01:00:55Read transcript
  • Mickey Rourke was the other final candidate for Danny; they correctly decided he was not funny enough.
  • Michael O'Keefe is good: a great golf swing, and he can hang on screen with Chevy Chase at his funniest.
  • Rourke on that era's cocaine-fueled set would have been ugly; Danny is good when Smales tries to hit him with the golf club.
  • Michelle Pfeiffer reportedly turned down Lacey because she did not want to be naked; she could have pulled it off, though she never played a character that frisky.
  • Pfeiffer and Rourke as Lacey and Danny would be a different movie, an Adrian Line erotic thriller; Rourke would compete with Ty, and O'Keefe landing Lacey should feel like a stretch.
  • Producer Peters is said to claim he had Bo Derek for Lacey before 10 and Ramis rejected it; Lacey is assumed to be about 25 and Danny about 17 or 18.
  • These movies shifted American comedy from a Jewish writing tradition toward Irish Catholic voices; Danny's eight-kid family is loosely based on the Murray family, and the young caddy landing Lacey set a template.
  • Don Rickles was considered for Al; he is judged too mean and perhaps better as Judge Smales.
  • Pink Floyd was wanted for the music and declined, thankfully; Ramis's left-of-center interests like Zen Buddhism are noted, and Kenny Loggins came through instead.
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