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Approx. transcript time · 01:23:29Read transcript
  • In the street fight between Steph and Nickerson near the end, Cruise sprints, stops, slaps his hands to his hips and sprints again, like a guy figuring out how to drive stick, which no angry human has ever done.
  • Glimpses of greatness when young are compared with the video of Tiger Woods with a golf club as a little kid.
Tin Cup The Rewatchables
Tin Cup

Half-Assed Internet Research

Nickname origins; golf training and wagers; cameos; unrealized sequel

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  • The story reportedly grew from Chip Beck laying up and Gary McCord repeatedly hitting a hazard; the hero cannot lay up. — Bill Simmons
  • The nickname's baseball origin feels random; a golf wager or childhood putting story would fit better. A crude alternative is a joke.
  • McCord reportedly received a requested $250,000 consulting/cameo fee; Costner reportedly performed most golf shots. — Bill Simmons
  • Daly and Eddie Pepperell incidents are cited as real Tin Cup comparisons. — Bill Simmons
  • Tiger Woods reportedly nearly ran out of his unique balls at the 2000 Open; Williams suggested iron without explaining, but Woods hit driver, correcting the initial assumption he obeyed.
  • The ball-replacement rule prompts jokes about refusing a rival and carrying many spares. — Bill Simmons
  • The insulted grandparents and child are reportedly Costner's parents and son. — Bill Simmons
  • Tin Cup Lake and the possible Rankin setting are discussed; Midland is corrected toward Odessa for Friday Night Lights. — Bill Simmons
  • A contemplated Cup at Q School sequel never happened, despite Shelton researching it, and is considered a missed opportunity. — Bill Simmons
  • Costner reportedly stopped playing afterward; a quoted oral-history anecdote has Mickelson collect a wager before his spectacular tree shot lands. — Bill Simmons
Den of Thieves

Apex Mountain

Pablo Schreiber; three-for-three suit stores; Los Angeles Fed; school rivalry; Benihana; misdirected stripper texts; gearing up; Angel City Donuts; 50 Cent’s film career

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Approx. transcript time · 01:11:58Read transcript
  • Apex: Butler's second career phase is associated with this film, but 300 remains a competing first peak and receives an explicit preference; participants disagree about which has the stronger present identity.
  • Pablo Schreiber is affirmed for this film, with The Wire as the alternative.
  • The specific three-for-three suit store is an affirmative Apex choice, distinguished from all suit stores.
  • The Los Angeles Federal Reserve Bank is an affirmative Apex choice.
  • Describing things as Fort Knox is proposed without a settled affirmative choice.
  • Long Beach Poly versus South Torrance is affirmed, particularly for South Torrance. — Chris Ryan
  • Shooting ranges lose to Beverly Hills Cop II because of their greater importance to its plot. — Chris Ryan
  • Benihana is counted as an affirmative Apex choice after the hosts ask the director in the audience whether the location qualifies. — Chris Ryan
  • Accidental texts intended for a stripper but sent to a wife are an affirmative film-specific Apex choice; Tiger Woods is offered outside movies. — Chris Ryan
  • Second-generation Heat films are debated through Den of Thieves, The Town, Triple Frontier, and Widows; no final winner is established.
  • Putting on protective gear for a street gunfight after a heist is affirmed as an Apex choice.
  • O'Shea Jackson Jr. is considered against Straight Outta Compton; one participant identifies him with Donnie, while another predicts the sequel will be his peak.
  • Bad things happening in donut stores lose to Boogie Nights, with a note that Buck's experience eventually funds his stereo shop. — Chris Ryan
  • Drinking milk from the carton is compared with Anchorman. — Chris Ryan
  • Angel City Donuts itself is affirmed as an Apex choice. — Chris Ryan
  • 50 Cent is praised for fitting the ensemble and playing off Pablo without his celebrity overwhelming the character. This is affirmed as his movie Apex, distinct from the larger career peak of Get Rich or Die Tryin'. Keeping him alive for the sequel is proposed. — Van Lathan
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  • Anne Hathaway is a yes: this was the peak of her career juice, when multiple Oscars seemed likely. — Bill Simmons
  • Rosemarie DeWitt is a yes; the director is obviously not. — Bill Simmons
  • Wedding movies are not at their apex; Father of the Bride, Four Weddings and a Funeral and My Best Friend’s Wedding are named from the 1990s, with The Godfather’s opening wedding also credited. — Bill Simmons
  • Bill Irwin is proposed but immediately challenged. — Bill Simmons
  • 2008 is called a rough year for people named Rachel, citing this film and the Tiger Woods scandal; Jennifer Aniston’s Rachel and Connecticut weddings are also floated. — Bill Simmons
  • During the winner discussion DeWitt is also called this film’s Apex Mountain. — Amanda Dobbins
Rain Man The Rewatchables
Rain Man

What’s Aged the Worst?

Oscar-bait disability movies; Raymond crashing the sex scene; the car-import business scenes; the card-counting stigma and casino reaction; Tom Cruise's cigarette smoking

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  • The Oscar-bait run of movies like Regarding Henry looks bad in totality. — Sean Fennessey
  • Raymond crashing the sex scene also goes here: weird, though it somehow works. — Sean Fennessey
  • The car-import business scenes with Lenny are one and a half too many and five minutes too much, like someone gave Oliver Stone an eight ball to write two Lamborghini-importing scenes. — Bill Simmons
  • The economics of Charlie's business is flagged and deferred to a later spot. — Bill Simmons
  • The stigma of card counting starts with this movie, yet they don't seem to win enough for the casino to turn on them; up 80 grand in 1988 is guessed at about 400K now. — Bill Simmons
  • Crowds in Vegas do not gather behind random winners at a table unless it is someone like Tiger Woods or Charles Barkley. — Bill Simmons
  • Card counting is not illegal, and being called into the manager's office for that amount seems ridiculous; trouble usually starts in the millions. — Sean Fennessey
  • There is no law against counting cards unless using a device; casinos push out players who crush them over months, not for one night. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom Cruise trying to smoke cigarettes ages worst and is suggested to have cost him an Oscar nomination; fans are invited to make a montage of Cruise smoking in movies. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise learned to fly a plane, flip pool cues and drive a race car, yet smokes like an idiot, holding the cigarette like a tree stump, usually at a diner. — Bill Simmons
  • Hoffman smoked through the Bernstein role and could have given him advice; Cruise also learned a back handspring for The Firm. — Bill Simmons
  • Bad smoking on screen is called a passion; Cruise clearly never had a cigarette, holds it sideways and never smokes it, because his body is a temple. — Bill Simmons
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Approx. transcript time · 01:14:30Read transcript
  • Michael O'Keefe is at Apex, coming off The Great Santini into the funniest movie of the year; with Tim Hutton he was a young actor to watch before Sean Penn's class eclipsed them. — Bill Simmons
  • Dangerfield's Apex is placed in the mid-80s with Back to School, when he became a draw, plus HBO specials breaking Sam Kinnison and Bill Maher; both participants agree. — Bill Simmons
  • Ted Knight: career-wise no, since Mary Tyler Moore is his Apex, but retroactively this became his legacy; Too Close for Comfort gets love. — Bill Simmons
  • Chevy Chase: no, he got it for Fletch; Bill Murray: no, though his six days of work are pure and golden. — Sean Fennessey
  • Cindy Morgan: sadly, yes. — Bill Simmons
  • Cocaine is argued as at Apex, before its damage was widely known and while it fueled the film's disjointed creativity; the other participant is uncomfortable placing it on the mountain. — Bill Simmons
  • Baby Ruth bars peak with Goonies instead. — Sean Fennessey
  • Golf is argued for 1980, citing Jack Nicholas winning two majors, Tom Watson the British and a rising star taking the Masters; the Tiger Woods Mike Douglas appearance is checked; the reply is a hesitant "yes, I guess." — Bill Simmons
Beverly Hills Cop

Most Rewatchable Scene

Axel checking into the Beverly Palm Hotel with the Rolling Stone and Michael Jackson routine, running all the way through the Serge gallery scene

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Approx. transcript time · 00:31:39Read transcript
  • Nothing in the first 20 minutes is exceedingly rewatchable to one host, who flips channels waiting for Axel to reach Beverly Hills; another disagrees, saying the chase is really good, and would watch an hour and a half of the cigarette deal as a Jim Jarmusch movie, and loves the Mean Streets moment that takes it out of 80s blockbuster territory; without the title you would not know what to make of Axel.
  • Axel arriving in Beverly Hills and checking into the hotel, claiming to be a Rolling Stone reporter in town to interview Michael Jackson, might be the funniest thing he has ever done; he cries racism without saying racism, playing an entitled white person and an affronted black person at the same time, which gets the manager to give him the room at half price; he overhears the no-reservations phone call so he has an opening line, and the wordless take at $240 a night is an all-timer.
  • From there it goes straight to Jenny Summers and the $130,000 piece with Serge, an almost impeccable nine minutes of comedy; an 80s trope of the pop song over the montage being turned down for a scene and brought back is noted as Stir It Up returns when he passes the two Michael Jacksons; the Serge part is compared to Shawn Michaels making any wrestler better, and Bronson Pinchot got a whole career and a sitcom out of two scenes after Risky Business.
  • Other nominations: the banana in the tailpipe, ordering the shrimp sandwich room service in the suite where the Rosewood and Taggart interplay starts, and the strip joint scene leading into the Super Cops monologue where everybody is cracking up; the 'Billy, you don't have to be embarrassed' bit and the Phil, Vanity Six exchange are recited.
  • The first team's 'not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe' outside Maitland's house became an iconic Little League taunt with no idea of the context, and Tiger Woods talking like the tailpipe guy in 1997 gave it five more years; the ending is enjoyed for the inept guards hailing bullets without hitting anyone in the age of the poorly deployed Uzi.
  • Axel getting chewed out by Cobb (as transcribed) over the truckload of cigarettes from the Dearborn hijack, with Paul Reiser's 'this is not my locker', is nominated; Cobb and James Russo are called the only two people who go over the top of Murphy, going higher than Icarus.
  • Asked for 30 seconds on James Russo and granted 45, the Michael Tandino thing is framed as a weird love story at the start of the movie that sets everything up. — Chris Ryan
  • The setup is a 24-hour working-class man using his vacation to solve a murder instead of going to Hawaii; an aside confirms Beverly Hills is its own city with its own police department, expensive, good schools, safe; the pool, bar and apartment sequence with Tandino is one host's rewatchable pick, and 'before he dies, they're doing it' is raised and saved for later.
  • Why the movie happened is saved for half-assed research; Axel at the customs facility asking about the Porsche and 'then you're my fucking problem' is added; the final pick is checking into the hotel all the way to Serge.
  • During the super cop scene John Ashton is visibly fighting laughter with his head down like a Carol Burnett show sketch, Ronnie Cox can be seen fighting it too, and Judge Reinhold reportedly pinched the inside of his thigh to keep from laughing at Eddie's ad libs; one host says it changes how he will watch the movie forever.
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