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Caddyshack

1980 film

Bill Simmons · Sean Fennessey

Aired August 18, 2020

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Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Smales carried more clubs; Michael O'Keefe is a legend among actor-athletes

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Approx. transcript time · 01:27:50Read transcript
  • Who carried more clubs, Smales or Al? Both had two putters and were over the limit; Smales, who thinks he needs every wood, despite the size of Al's bag.
  • Greatest sports-movie putt: Happy Gilmore or Danny winning the caddy tournament amid "Noonan" taunts on a bumpy green, called incredible; a preference for the final-hole sequence in Tin Cup is also voiced.
  • Did the movie create the word "Poon Tang"? Unknown, with a case that it did; an Apex Mountain joke about it is spared.
  • What happened to Rodney Dangerfield after Caddyshack and Back to School? Ladybugs, which was in HBO rotation with Vanessa Shaw called the Cindy Morgan of a generation, plus Rover Dangerfield.
  • Is it better if the gopher is in Maggie's car when Carl blows it up? Blowing up Maggie is not supported; the compromise is she returns in a sling.
  • Where does Michael O'Keefe rank among actor-athletes? Legend, with a great swing and a run of The Great Santini, Caddyshack, Split Image and The Slugger's Wife; he should have been in Tin Cup.
  • Do they still sell Baby Ruth bars? It was Nestle for a time, and many bars of that era faded; one participant is not a chocolate fan.
  • Why was there never a Caddyshack video game, such as Golden Tee or PGA Tour 93, with Noonan, Denunzio, Smales, Ty or Lou as playable characters?
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Approx. transcript time · 01:14:30Read transcript
  • Michael O'Keefe is at Apex, coming off The Great Santini into the funniest movie of the year; with Tim Hutton he was a young actor to watch before Sean Penn's class eclipsed them.
  • Dangerfield's Apex is placed in the mid-80s with Back to School, when he became a draw, plus HBO specials breaking Sam Kinnison and Bill Maher; both participants agree.
  • Ted Knight: career-wise no, since Mary Tyler Moore is his Apex, but retroactively this became his legacy; Too Close for Comfort gets love.
  • Chevy Chase: no, he got it for Fletch; Bill Murray: no, though his six days of work are pure and golden.
  • Cindy Morgan: sadly, yes.
  • Cocaine is argued as at Apex, before its damage was widely known and while it fueled the film's disjointed creativity; the other participant is uncomfortable placing it on the mountain.
  • Baby Ruth bars peak with Goonies instead.
  • Golf is argued for 1980, citing Jack Nicholas winning two majors, Tom Watson the British and a rising star taking the Masters; the Tiger Woods Mike Douglas appearance is checked; the reply is a hesitant "yes, I guess."
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

Half-Assed Internet Research

Doyle Murray's caddy memories; 11-week 1979 shoot; Carl absent from early drafts; stunt double for Lacey's dive; O'Keefe avoiding golf for 25 years; Denunzio actor dating Cindy Morgan; deleted Carl-Ty scene

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Approx. transcript time · 01:12:20Read transcript
  • The film was inspired by writer and co-star Doyle Murray's memories of caddying at the Indian Hill Club, where his brothers and Ramis also caddied.
  • It shot for 11 weeks in 1979 with golf scenes in Florida; Carl Spackler was not in early drafts, which centered a Danny-Maggie-Denunzio love triangle.
  • A stunt double did Lacey's dive because Cindy Morgan could not see without her contacts.
  • Michael O'Keefe would not play golf for 25 years because people watched and judged him on the course.
  • Scott Columbia (as transcribed) and Cindy Morgan dated for two years after the movie, so Denunzio "won in real life."
  • A deleted scene on YouTube has Carl teaching Ty to hit with Danny caddying, deleted for a reason.
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
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Caddyshack

What’s Aged the Worst?

Judge Smales's rough week; bare heads on the course; Caddyshack lines at golf tournaments; Denunzio's swing and outfit; the gopher; Maggie; the Baby Ruth Jaws parody; Lou unfazed by explosions; the John Peters story

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Approx. transcript time · 00:50:42Read transcript
  • Judge Smales's week is listed (transcribed as "what stage is the worst"): his course blew up, his boat sank, he nearly killed an old lady, learned about his niece and that Ty's dad never liked him, lost an illegal $80,000 match and was chased by Moose and Rocco.
  • Nobody wears hats; deerstalker-style hats outnumber baseball caps.
  • Golf broadcasters forcing Caddyshack lines into tournaments has aged terribly.
  • Denunzio's corkscrew golf swing (a Rob Deere comparison, and a Chris Ryan joke) and blouse-like outfit are worse; only Danny swings well, and the outfit looks headed to a Chippendales shift.
  • The gopher is not funny: liking it was once a disqualifier, it was an attempted fifth comedy style like the Muppets or Gremlins, and the sequel doubled down; the reply jokes that Caddyshack 2 never happened.
  • Maggie is one of the worst sports-movie characters, with an unexplained Irish accent though actress Sarah Holcomb was American; she is from Animal House and reportedly left acting with mental health problems; the quickly resolved pregnancy subplot was unneeded.
  • The Baby Ruth bar as a Jaws parody was a great idea in 1980 but is less effective 40 years later.
  • Lou the Caddymaster stares at Danny's last putt while bombs go off; suggested explanations are Vietnam service or how badly he wanted Smales crushed.
  • As told on the show, producer John Peters, a former hairdresser said to have inspired Warren Beatty's Shampoo and married Barbara Streisian (as transcribed), arranged a Playboy shoot of Cindy Morgan, threatened her career when she declined, and Ramis cancelled the shoot.
  • It is said she did not work after that, then noted that she starred in Tron and worked in TV through the 80s and 90s but could have had a much bigger career; it is framed as an early version of a Me Too era story.
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Caddyshack

What’s Aged the Best?

"Don't you have homes?"; "The world needs ditch diggers too"; boat christening speech; gas-chamber line; "How about a Fresco"; Billy Baru; "Well, we're waiting"

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Approx. transcript time · 00:37:01Read transcript
  • A special category is introduced for Ted Knight, going chronologically; the disdain of "don't you have homes?" to the poker players kills.
  • Other Knight moments listed: his reaction to Lacey's joke, "the world needs ditch diggers too", the hamburger exchange with Spalding and the boat christening speech with his shorts too tight.
  • "I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber" is read as revealing he is a complete asshole and sociopath.
  • "How about a Fresco" was a running joke in college; it is barely a joke, but every Knight line delivery is the highest level of comedy.
  • Cradling Billy Baru is insanity.
  • "Well, we're waiting" is called one of the biggest Twitter memes, the go-to gif whenever someone teases a scoop.
  • Per the quoted Ramis and Cindy Morgan recollections, Knight was a traditional script-following actor alienated by the improvising, and he was angry at the improvising around him; that real friction works on screen.
  • A possibly apocryphal story says Rodney did nothing when Ramis yelled action because he did not know it was his cue.
  • A 2020 equivalent of Knight is sought, perhaps David Hyde Pierce; he was a favorite character on that show, with good connection with Mary.
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