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Caddyshack The Rewatchables
Caddyshack

Casting What-Ifs

Mickey Rourke as Danny; Michelle Pfeiffer as Lacey; Bo Derek as Lacey; Don Rickles as Al; Pink Floyd for the music

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  • Mickey Rourke was the other final candidate for Danny; they correctly decided he was not funny enough. — Bill Simmons
  • Michael O'Keefe is good: a great golf swing, and he can hang on screen with Chevy Chase at his funniest. — Sean Fennessey
  • Rourke on that era's cocaine-fueled set would have been ugly; Danny is good when Smales tries to hit him with the golf club. — Sean Fennessey
  • Michelle Pfeiffer reportedly turned down Lacey because she did not want to be naked; she could have pulled it off, though she never played a character that frisky. — Bill Simmons
  • Pfeiffer and Rourke as Lacey and Danny would be a different movie, an Adrian Line erotic thriller; Rourke would compete with Ty, and O'Keefe landing Lacey should feel like a stretch. — Bill Simmons
  • Producer Peters is said to claim he had Bo Derek for Lacey before 10 and Ramis rejected it; Lacey is assumed to be about 25 and Danny about 17 or 18. — Bill Simmons
  • These movies shifted American comedy from a Jewish writing tradition toward Irish Catholic voices; Danny's eight-kid family is loosely based on the Murray family, and the young caddy landing Lacey set a template. — Sean Fennessey
  • Don Rickles was considered for Al; he is judged too mean and perhaps better as Judge Smales. — Bill Simmons
  • Pink Floyd was wanted for the music and declined, thankfully; Ramis's left-of-center interests like Zen Buddhism are noted, and Kenny Loggins came through instead. — Sean Fennessey
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
Caddyshack

What’s Aged the Best?

Dangerfield's golf bag; the fake names; Lacey Underall; Lacey's yellow 450S; Bushwood T-shirts; Billy Baru; "Noonan!"; Carl washing golf balls; Elahue Smales; the Kenny Loggins theme; "Ooh, my arm, it's broken"; Smales's golf outfits; the Dalai Lama story

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  • The golf bag of Dangerfield's character had a phone, a stereo, a quarter keg, a putter with an electronic tracking device and a contraption that shot all the clubs into the air. — Bill Simmons
  • Asked about his golf-bag preference, he prefers little bags out of respect for caddies, using a big bag only with a cart. — Bill Simmons
  • Caddying one summer was worse than building bathroom partitions in public schools: hot, painful, rude members and selfish heavy bags. — Bill Simmons
  • Caddying ropes in kids with tips and the outdoors; 20 of the 25 worst moments of one participant's life came while caddying, except mid-80s Tuesday mornings carrying putters for the women; be nice to waiters and caddies. — Bill Simmons
  • The fake names: Mitch Comstein, Lacey Underall, Dr. Bieber, Al Servic, Carl Lipbaum and Chuck Schick; Dr. Beeper has a lot of screen time and feels like an unfinished SNL character. — Bill Simmons
  • Lacey Underall is great; the actress followed a Sybil Shepard-like model-and-commercials playbook and was a real newcomer. — Bill Simmons
  • Lacey's yellow 450S is great, though a convertible would have been the final piece. — Bill Simmons
  • The Bushwood C.C. T-shirts were wished for 18 years ago in writing. — Bill Simmons
  • Billy Baru, a special putter for big situations, is loved; the talk turns to naming clubs and a participant's named pool cues from playing pool for money. — Bill Simmons
  • "Noonan!" became so embedded in culture that it is surprising to see in the movie; the tactic works in horse, but anyone who talked through a putt would get hit. — Bill Simmons
  • Carl washing his golf balls and the Mrs. Crane monologue remain hilarious, though his interest in the women is weird and offensive.
  • Carl is probably in jail after blowing up the golf course. — Bill Simmons
  • "Elahue, will you come here and look for my stretch mark" kills, and Elahue Smales is an incredible comedy-writer name. — Bill Simmons
  • Kenny Loggins, with Top Gun, Footloose and this theme, is argued as bigger than Harold Faltermeyer among 80s movie music figures; the theme still whips ass. — Bill Simmons
  • "Ooh, my arm, it's broken" became a running joke, along with Beeper's possible fractured ulna. — Bill Simmons
  • Judge Smales's golf outfits, including a pink shirt and plaid pants, evoke late-70s Jack Nicholas and are something Joe House would wear now; the deep four-button polos are instantly dated. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Dalai Lama story may be the funniest scene in movie history, colliding goofball material with Zen thinking yet legible to a six-year-old; "I got that going for me" is now part of the lexicon. — Sean Fennessey
  • He is holding a real pitchfork, and the kid in that scene is said to be visibly terrified of being impaled. — Bill Simmons
Top Gun The Rewatchables
Top Gun

What’s Aged the Best?

The soundtrack, rivalry, style and Tony Scott’s filmmaking

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  • Buzzing the tower became part of everyday vocabulary
  • Charlie’s Porsche is admired
  • The soundtrack and electric-guitar anthem retain their appeal
  • Kenny Loggins’s run of movie-theme songs is discussed
  • Meg Ryan and Anthony Edwards have convincing chemistry
  • Maverick and Iceman’s rivalry is compared to Bird and Magic
  • Tom Skerritt balances authority, warmth and intimidation
  • The character-by-character end credits are praised
  • The panel credits the low-priced Top Gun VHS release and Pepsi marketing with expanding home-video ownership
  • Aviators, bomber jackets, jeans and mustaches remain iconic
  • Cruise’s sex-symbol image and the forbidden romance are discussed
  • Call signs and practical aerial effects hold up
  • Tony Scott’s glossy blockbuster direction is praised
  • Tim Robbins’s tiny role is a source of continuing surprise
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