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Harold Faltermeyer

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The Running Man

What’s Aged the Best?

The future-setting graphic, invented reality shows, first ten minutes, Richard Bachman name, old-age Mick Fleetwood, Captain Freedom, net tasers, dystopian Los Angeles, and Faltermeyer’s score (some qualified)

In the discussion (16)
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  • The opening graphic that declares society collapsed by 2017 immediately sells the premise. — Bill Simmons
  • Climbing for Dollars feels like a plausible modern streaming competition show despite its blunt name. — Bill Simmons
  • The unexplained Hate Boat is praised as a reality-show concept that could work now. — Bill Simmons
  • Captain Freedom is compared to a steroidal modern sideline reporter. — Bill Simmons
  • The first ten minutes move efficiently from the future graphic through the helicopter, prison, Chico, and Dawson. — Kyle Brandt
  • Stephen King publishing as Richard Bachman is praised as a pen-name power move. — Kyle Brandt
  • Mick Fleetwood’s future-age makeup is said to resemble how he looks decades later. — Bill Simmons
  • Dynamo’s vehicle is compared to a contemporary Tesla truck. — Bill Simmons
  • Arnold’s conspicuously fake early beard exemplifies an enjoyable 1980s action-movie convention. — Kyle Brandt
  • The conveniently fitted World’s Gym shirt and construction hat make Richards’s escape outfit funny. — Kyle Brandt
  • The net tasers used on the airport tarmac are praised as useful futuristic weapons. — Kyle Brandt
  • The film’s run-down future Los Angeles looks uncomfortably close to present-day Los Angeles. — Bill Simmons
  • Harold Faltermeyer’s score gives the movie weight; its similarity to cop two prompts speculation that musical ideas were reused. — Bill Simmons
  • The podcast says the actor it names as “Erlin Van Liff” was a real baritone, performed Dynamo’s singing, and died in the film’s release year. — Bill Simmons
  • American Gladiators is said to have drawn direct inspiration from The Running Man. — Bill Simmons
  • Possible Hate Boat formats include people who already hate each other, loving couples breaking apart, and separated couples forced to get along with their children at sea. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (5)
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  • Eddie Murphy is not at Apex despite Cop 2 and Raw in the same year; the first Beverly Hills Cop was his apex, though the film’s success shows his star power. — Bill Simmons
  • Brigitte Nielsen is a yes; a long career seemed likely after this film. — Bill Simmons
  • Judge Reinhold is a yes, getting starring parts after Fast Times and Ruthless People before Vice Versa failed to launch him. — Bill Simmons
  • Tony Scott, Hugh Hefner, Harold Faltermeyer, and the Playboy Mansion are nos; Hefner’s peak is placed around the late ‘70s. — Bill Simmons
  • Cement trucks are floated jokingly, prompting a recollection of a Twitter correction about missing the long pee scene in The Naked Gun. — Bill Simmons
Beverly Hills Cop II

What’s Aged the Best?

Taggart and Rosewood; Brigitte Nielsen; opening theme music; I Want Your Sex; Chris Rock; Simpson and Bruckheimer; deleted laser scene; Playboy Mansion filming; Alphabet Crimes concept; Paul Reiser’s Playboy’s Sisters magazine

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  • Taggart and Rosewood are named first, with a wish that Beverly Hills Cop movies had kept coming every two years, seven in all, to add more of them. — Bill Simmons
  • Brigitte Nielsen is raised next, and this is judged the best part she ever had, better than her earlier Schwarzenegger film and definitely better than Cobra. — Bill Simmons
  • An opening song thematically drawn from the movie is praised as something no longer done. — Chris Ryan
  • Shakedown was reportedly meant for Glenn Frey until his voice gave out, so Bob Seger sang it; Harold Faltermeyer’s score is compared to 48 Hours, Escape from New York, Miami Vice, and Fletch. — Bill Simmons
  • Shakedown is called Bob Seger’s only number-one hit, a late peak after Springsteen pulled ahead of him around 1981. — Bill Simmons
  • George Michael’s I Want Your Sex is called an amazing ‘80s song used perfectly. — Bill Simmons
  • Chris Rock’s early appearance has aged best, especially in light of the Will Smith incident. — Bill Simmons
  • Asked about Jürgen Prochnow, the answer is lukewarm: he and Dean Stockwell step on each other as villains, and Paul Guilfoyle’s character is barely developed. — Bill Simmons
  • A scene at the villains’ apartment revealing their strange relationship is wished for, and the debt-driven alphabet scheme is called too cute by half. — Bill Simmons
  • Simpson and Bruckheimer have aged best; Simpson reportedly had Paramount pull writer Larry Ferguson off The Presidio to work on this film. — Bill Simmons
  • A deleted gun-club scene where Axel, Rosewood, and Taggart sneak past lasers should have been kept. — Bill Simmons
  • It was reportedly the first movie filmed at the Playboy Mansion after Hugh Hefner had long refused. — Bill Simmons
  • The Alphabet Crimes concept could be a Fincher-style limited Netflix series with one letter per episode; the crimes ran through the jewelry store, Bogomil, City Deposit, and the racetrack, and should have reached J. — Bill Simmons
  • Paul Reiser appears to be reading a Playboy’s Sisters magazine in several scenes, possibly a payoff for mansion access. — Chris Ryan
Caddyshack The Rewatchables
Caddyshack

What’s Aged the Best?

Dangerfield's golf bag; the fake names; Lacey Underall; Lacey's yellow 450S; Bushwood T-shirts; Billy Baru; "Noonan!"; Carl washing golf balls; Elahue Smales; the Kenny Loggins theme; "Ooh, my arm, it's broken"; Smales's golf outfits; the Dalai Lama story

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  • The golf bag of Dangerfield's character had a phone, a stereo, a quarter keg, a putter with an electronic tracking device and a contraption that shot all the clubs into the air. — Bill Simmons
  • Asked about his golf-bag preference, he prefers little bags out of respect for caddies, using a big bag only with a cart. — Bill Simmons
  • Caddying one summer was worse than building bathroom partitions in public schools: hot, painful, rude members and selfish heavy bags. — Bill Simmons
  • Caddying ropes in kids with tips and the outdoors; 20 of the 25 worst moments of one participant's life came while caddying, except mid-80s Tuesday mornings carrying putters for the women; be nice to waiters and caddies. — Bill Simmons
  • The fake names: Mitch Comstein, Lacey Underall, Dr. Bieber, Al Servic, Carl Lipbaum and Chuck Schick; Dr. Beeper has a lot of screen time and feels like an unfinished SNL character. — Bill Simmons
  • Lacey Underall is great; the actress followed a Sybil Shepard-like model-and-commercials playbook and was a real newcomer. — Bill Simmons
  • Lacey's yellow 450S is great, though a convertible would have been the final piece. — Bill Simmons
  • The Bushwood C.C. T-shirts were wished for 18 years ago in writing. — Bill Simmons
  • Billy Baru, a special putter for big situations, is loved; the talk turns to naming clubs and a participant's named pool cues from playing pool for money. — Bill Simmons
  • "Noonan!" became so embedded in culture that it is surprising to see in the movie; the tactic works in horse, but anyone who talked through a putt would get hit. — Bill Simmons
  • Carl washing his golf balls and the Mrs. Crane monologue remain hilarious, though his interest in the women is weird and offensive.
  • Carl is probably in jail after blowing up the golf course. — Bill Simmons
  • "Elahue, will you come here and look for my stretch mark" kills, and Elahue Smales is an incredible comedy-writer name. — Bill Simmons
  • Kenny Loggins, with Top Gun, Footloose and this theme, is argued as bigger than Harold Faltermeyer among 80s movie music figures; the theme still whips ass. — Bill Simmons
  • "Ooh, my arm, it's broken" became a running joke, along with Beeper's possible fractured ulna. — Bill Simmons
  • Judge Smales's golf outfits, including a pink shirt and plaid pants, evoke late-70s Jack Nicholas and are something Joe House would wear now; the deep four-button polos are instantly dated. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Dalai Lama story may be the funniest scene in movie history, colliding goofball material with Zen thinking yet legible to a six-year-old; "I got that going for me" is now part of the lexicon. — Sean Fennessey
  • He is holding a real pitchfork, and the kid in that scene is said to be visibly terrified of being impaled. — Bill Simmons
Fletch The Rewatchables
Fletch

Apex Mountain

Chevy Chase in 1985-86; beer cans

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  • Chevy has two apexes: SNL, and a second around 1985-86 when he reclaimed movie stardom and hosted the Oscars; the answer is yes. — Bill Simmons
  • A joke that Dana Wheeler-Nicholson's apex has been going for 35 years, while others would say it's this movie. — Bill Simmons
  • For Harold Faltermeyer, after Beverly Hills Cop and this, the sky is the limit, and it leads to Top Gun. — Bill Simmons
  • Kareem gets a yes for 1985: the title won in Boston Garden, Finals MVP 14 years after 1971, the scoring record, his autobiography, and Fletch. — Bill Simmons
  • Pushback: being in Fletch is not his apex; 1980, with the Magic title and Airplane, is called the correct answer, and his college years and 1971 Bucks are also raised. — Bill Simmons
  • Chick Hearn may have hit his apex with the 85 title and his Fletch scene, joked as getting his street named. — Bill Simmons
  • The Fletch jersey becoming something people wore is not quite an apex; Venice's apex would be White Men Can't Jump. — Bill Simmons
  • The other apex is the beer cans, great beer drinking by Chevy; newspapers and investigative reporting get a 'maybe'.
Fletch The Rewatchables
Fletch

What’s Aged the Best?

Tim Matheson's casting; Mr. Underhill; Kareem's IMDb page; the 'Who's Frida?' exchange; Harold Faltermeyer's score; Fletch's apartment; Michael Ritchie

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  • Tim Matheson plays the villain Alan Stanwyk, which mirrors Animal House: Otter was written for Chase, so Matheson did a Chevy impression there and now plays the lookalike who wants Fletch dead. — Bill Simmons
  • Mr. Underhill's two scenes hold up: shredding the waiter over a gratuity and exploding at the bill; he is like Judge Smales crossed with Hitler. — Bill Simmons
  • Kareem's IMDb page (Game of Death, Airplane, Fletch, 21 Jump Street, D2, Diff'rent Strokes, Saved by the Bell) makes him arguably the most successful athlete-actor. — Bill Simmons
  • The claim is about how the IMDb page looks at a glance, not actual acting success. — Bill Simmons
  • Rival athlete-actor contenders: Jim Brown (Mars Attacks, Any Given Sunday, The Running Man, The Dirty Dozen) and O.J. Simpson (Towering Inferno, Naked Gun).
  • The secretary exchange ('I'm Frida's boss.' 'Who's Frida?' 'My secretary.') is another pick. — Bill Simmons
  • The list of pseudonyms is read out, including Dr. Rosen, John Cocktoe Stone, Mr. Poon, Igor Stravinsky, Gordon Liddy, Don Corleone and Harry S. Truman. — Bill Simmons
  • Harold Faltermeyer's score is amazing 80s music with a Thomas Dolby influence, alongside his Beverly Hills Cop work; the Alpha Romeo chase song gets an honorable mention and Stephanie Mills sings the theme. — Bill Simmons
  • Siskel's point: once Beverly Hills Cop hit, action sequences and Faltermeyer music could turn a wry comedy into an easier-to-sell action comedy. — Sean Fennessey
  • Fletch's apartment, with the life-size Magic and Bird poster and the hoop on the wall, is the perfect bachelor pad for a guy who only cares about the paper and the Lakers. — Chris Ryan
  • His faded purple Lakers jersey is praised, but the 1985 Lakers-Celtics Finals prompt a joking 'I recant my statement' and talk of cancelling the pod. — Bill Simmons
  • Michael Ritchie is called the best sports-movie director ever, with a run including Downhill Racer, The Bad News Bears, Semi-Tough, Fletch and Wildcats; he only produced Bad News Bears Go to Japan, did not direct Shampoo, made the messy Golden Child, and The Candidate is recommended. — Sean Fennessey
Beverly Hills Cop

Apex Mountain

Eddie Murphy; Lisa Eilbacher; LA cops as a possible apex that soon turned; Mumford High School; Harold Faltermeyer; Kent cigarettes; the mansion, owner unknown to the hosts, reused in Commando

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  • Eddie was covered earlier; Lisa Eylbacher (as transcribed) is a 100,000 percent yes, with the joke that by apex he means valley; LA cops are at a possible apex that turned dramatically, since Colors came three or four years later and a lighthearted LA cops comedy could not be made ten years on; Mumford High School and Harold Faltenmeyer (as transcribed) are yeses.
  • Kent cigarettes are a yes, as is the mansion, whose owner and location the hosts do not know, which was used again in Commando a year later.
  • The Commando mention prompts movie star physics: Eddie in Cobra, Commando or Raw Deal; Raw Deal is called an Eddie Murphy movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger doing the Eddie stuff, weird human touches that need a human being, and the softest Arnold of his peak.
  • At the top of the show the suggestion is to rename Apex Mountain after Eddie, Axel Foley Mountain or Mount Foley, for the SNL, 48 Hours, Trading Places, Beverly Hills Cop run.
Beverly Hills Cop

What’s Aged the Best?

Lisa Eilbacher as Jenny Summers (disputed); Jenny's red Mercedes convertible; the title; Harold Faltermeyer's score and the soundtrack; the Mumford Phys Ed t-shirt and cropped sweatshirts; Taggart and Rosewood; Murphy's early run of good directors; the rival cop duo

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  • One host is still in love with Jenny Summers, played by Lisa Eilbach (as transcribed); the objection is not to the actress but to Hollywood casting interchangeable blondes with the same Kate Capshaw haircut, and another did not recognize her at all; what one host wants from the token female character in an Eddie Murphy movie is to dress well, laugh at his jokes and look great.
  • She is not a love interest for either man, though she tried with Eddie, which is saved for later; she is serious about her career and it costs her nothing, and her damselification is believable because she insists on driving to the warehouse; 'great character' is countered with 'definitely not a great character' since nothing motivates her, she works at a coke lord's art gallery, and the Jenny, Tandino and Axel triangle of friendship makes no sense.
  • Jenny is called a TV actress annihilated by everyone else on screen who did nothing afterward because she cannot hold the screen; a joke pitch imagines a Jenny Summers sequel in Don Simpson's office; she may be the first female gallerist in a movie.
  • The defense of Jenny Summers is framed as a 15-year-old's crush recalled in the past tense. — Bill Simmons
  • Jenny Summers' red Mercedes-Benz convertible is a dope car you cannot see anymore and is hard to keep in shape; in Beverly Hills they just take whatever car is closest; the little back seat is the Mikey spot.
  • The title is great, as if they came up with it before they had a script; Harold Faltemeyer's run through Top Gun and Fletch is admired, the score fit an era of synth musicians like Howard Jones and Wang Chung.
  • Faltermeyer is credited alongside Hans Zimmer on Top Gun Maverick, presumably because they use his themes; the soundtrack with The Heat Is On, Neutron Dance, Stir It Up and Nasty Girl is strong.
  • Martin Brest draws 'the less said the better' from one host and a Midnight Run defense from another, who calls it a perfect movie and credits Brest with two of the best comedies of all time, alongside Gigi (as transcribed) and Son of a Woman (as transcribed); it is hard to know how much credit he gets here beyond being smart enough to let Eddie ad-lib, and Midnight Run also does not work without its two stars.
  • The Mumford Phys Ed t-shirts were really a thing in the mid 80s with no internet to buy them, and the high school was flooded with requests; the Lions jacket in Cop 2 was intentional merchandising; the cropped sweatshirts, like the Josh Brolin Goonies look, are almost as iconic, and the hosts tease one of them about adopting cropped sweats.
  • Taggart and Rosewood have aged best because this lays the groundwork for two heroic performances in Beverly Hills Cop 2 that could have been nominated; a key to Murphy is that, apart from Brest, he mostly worked with good directors early: Walter Hill, Tony Scott, Robert Townsend, John Landis, even Michael Ritchie on The Golden Child; Cop 3 is best left unmentioned.
  • The 'not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe' guy is enjoyed for setting it up earlier with the first team insult for Taggart, and the hosts miss the mid-80s cop movie rivalry duo with sarcastic comments; Eilbacher is put back in by a second and declared a law, with 'Eilbacher Mountain' floated.
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