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  • Lee Marvin was originally intended for Jeremiah and is rejected by the panel.
  • A Clint Eastwood version directed by Sam Peckinpah reportedly collapsed when they did not get along.
  • Steve McQueen is considered capable of the physical role but still inferior to Redford.
  • Redford’s real attachment to nature and Utah is cited as making him uniquely suited.
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  • Steve McQueen is reported to have declined because he could not cry on cue despite admiring the script.
  • James Caan, Dustin Hoffman, Al Pacino, and Gene Hackman are reported to have declined the lead, while Jack Nicholson had conflicts.
  • Richard Dreyfuss is reported to have lobbied Spielberg persistently before salary demands briefly stalled the deal.
  • Hackman's troubled marriage and reluctance to leave Los Angeles, along with Caan's price, are given as reasons the alternatives failed.
  • Teri Garr wanted Jillian but was cast as Ronnie; Meryl Streep and Amy Irving also auditioned for Ronnie.
  • Hal Ashby is reported to have recommended Melinda Dillon, who was cast only days before filming.
  • Carrie Guffey reportedly lost the chance to play Danny Torrance because he was committed to other films.
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Death Wish

Casting What-Ifs

Jack Lemmon and Henry Fonda headline a large set of alternate casting possibilities.

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  • Warren Beatty and Steve McQueen reportedly declined Buttermaker before Matthau; their glamour and coolness are considered wrong for the role, though a down-on-his-luck Beatty might work.
  • Jodie Foster reportedly left Amanda for Taxi Driver, and Kristy McNichol was offered the role before O’Neal.
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The Longest Yard

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Burt Reynolds is called the greatest car-chase driver; alternate takes read the film as a story about America and speculate that Crewe fathers a child in prison.

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  • Burt Reynolds is argued to be the greatest performer at driving while being chased.
  • Steve McQueen and Ryan Gosling are considered as alternatives.
  • The movie is read as a story about Americans from different backgrounds uniting through football and hatred of authority.
  • A deliberately speculative take imagines that the secretary becomes pregnant after the encounter with Crewe.
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The Bodyguard

What’s Aged the Best?

Whitney and Costner at their peaks; bodyguard-romance premise; soundtrack; Dolly Parton connection; resentful-sister concept; 'permanent position' quote; widescreen; Costner's haircut; a cappella opening; song-swap story; Costner's eulogy; Secret Service guys

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  • Whitney in her late prime and Costner at his peak head the list.
  • Professional bodyguard romances are loved, including Ridley Scott's late-80s Someone to Watch Over Me with Mimi Rogers, which has a similar premise.
  • A British terrorism series possibly called Bodyguard, with a Game of Thrones actor named Richard is liked.
  • Protectors crossing lines are compelling because the job is so intimate: a rigid, disciplined guy whose gooey center someone reaches.
  • The Sentinel with Michael Douglas as a framed Secret Service agent is recommended as a rewatchable mid-2000s entry.
  • The soundtrack is loaded and called the best of all time; I Will Always Love You was a Dolly Parton song that finally found the right voice.
  • One participant learned only about four years earlier, from a Dolly Parton fan at TMZ, that the song was a cover, at 37 years old.
  • The original singer owned and loved the cover, pulled over the first time she heard it, and showed no bitterness.
  • The resentful older sister-assistant concept is an untapped idea for movies and TV.
  • A favorite quote: "I'm no good in a permanent position, Monty, my feet go to sleep."
  • The widescreen framing was hard to follow on square TVs for 15 years and now plays better.
  • Costner's crew-cut, Steve McQueen-style hair became a thing that Clooney took further on ER and Jake tried on Melrose Place, sparking a Grant Show tangent.
  • Costner's idea to open I Will Always Love You a cappella was great.
  • What Becomes of the Brokenhearted was meant to be the cover until Fried Green Tomatoes used it to end that film in 1991.
  • A piece of Costner's eulogy is read: Whitney lacked confidence during filming, sang the whole song without a band, and was the only one who could have played Rachel at that time.
  • Costner's feelings for Houston deserve their own discussion; a Grantland party anecdote says Costner, brought by Kimmel five or six years earlier, still had it.
  • Secret Service guys have aged well: The Last Boy Scout is defended, later entries include the Channing Tatum White House movie and the Fallen films, and Ving Rhames in Dave is a shared favorite.
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  • The film was nearly made in 1975; producers wanted Steve McQueen, then judged him too old, and considered Chris Christopherson before it went into turnaround.
  • Gene Hackman and Robert Duvall turned down the Teasle role.
  • Hackman would lift the movie a level, but then he might not do Unforgiven; Dennehy is judged the better outcome.
  • Duvall would have been good, but Dennehy's use of his body mattered.
  • Lee Marvin turned down Troutman; Kirk Douglas was hired and quit over a script dispute, with an uncertain story that he wanted Troutman to become Rambo.
  • Crenna, hired within 24 hours, is preferred to Douglas for enjoying every line.
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  • Larry B. Scott (Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds) and Happy Gilmore's grandma as the lying, chain-smoking old lady are mentioned as classic That Guys.
  • The pick is Randee Heller as the mom, for a run including Gabe Kaplan's wife in Fast Break, a stripper girlfriend on The White Shadow, and later a lawyer on Melrose Place—an '80s Gary Oldman' range.
  • Dutch is floated as a That Guy as the most psychotic Cobra Kai, but because the actor is Chad McQueen, Steve McQueen's son, he is judged not a That Guy.
  • Chad McQueen is placed in the first wave of troubled celebrity kids of the cocaine era, with a wild look in his eyes.
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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

What’s Aged the Worst?

Murder-twist shock value; Damian Lewis as Steve McQueen; Spahn Ranch tension on rewatch

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  • The shock of the murders not happening only works once; on rewatch you know it is coming.
  • Damian Lewis as Steve McQueen does not work because he carries the baggage of Billions and Homeland; another voice agrees he is miscast and written as an exposition character.
  • Whether McQueen would have made a run at Sharon Tate is disputed.
  • The Spahn Ranch scene peaks the first time and is never the same once you know what happens.
  • On what might age the worst, the Bruce Lee scene is floated with uncertainty; the defense of it given earlier is restated as acceptable.
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