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Stand by Me

What’s Aged the Best?

Jerry O'Connell; young Kiefer; leeches; the game of chicken; the busboys quote; kids smoking; the narration; childhood urban legends; timelessness; Jack Nitzsche score

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  • Fat Jerry O'Connell ages well, given he later married Rebecca Romijn Stamos and played Cush; his nuanced part is the sneaky best of the four on repeat viewings. — Bill Simmons
  • Young Kiefer ages well given his later career: engaged to Julia Roberts, winning the Dion Waiters Award for A Few Good Men as Kendrick, and Jack Bauer; this role is his Lost Boys villain without the vampire. — Bill Simmons
  • Leeches always work and make viewers squirm; a Little League groin injury anecdote follows. — Bill Simmons
  • The old-school game of chicken; one participant admits to drag races in high school. — Bill Simmons
  • The narrator's line that friends come in and out of your life like busboys. — Bill Simmons
  • Kids smoking: they embrace smoking's nuances, the pack rolled in the white tee, and Zippo work; smoking then is likened to video games for today's kids. — Bill Simmons
  • The story-within-a-story nesting and Richard Dreyfuss's narration as older Gordy, such as Vern's pennies; narration usually signals a flaw, but Stand By Me, Shawshank and Goodfellas do it best. — Chris Ryan
  • Childhood urban legends and mythology, with stories mutating among 12-year-olds and jinxes, which the internet has changed. — Chris Ryan
  • The movie is timeless: set in 1959 with distance, it captures the era, down to the clothes and the radio DJ. — Bill Simmons
  • The score and the classical version of the title song are added; 'Good call.' — Chris Ryan
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  • The candidates include Chris Rock, John Witherspoon, BB Drake, Eartha Kitt, the unnamed man commenting on the nipple, and the girl in the art class. — Bill Simmons
  • Witherspoon’s dinner is considered possibly the movie’s most memorable scene. — Van Lathan
  • His nine minutes are compared to a 29-point performance that swings the score. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel keeps the Dion Waiters name but places Witherspoon in the prospective category Hall of Fame. — Bill Simmons
Ronin The Rewatchables
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  • Sean Bean is listed for the Dion Waiters award and could change the award's name. — Bill Simmons
  • Katarina Witt is floated out of affection, then conceded ('You're right'). — Chris Ryan
  • Bean's short run is recounted: walking the team into an ambush, wild machine-gun fire, the 'bit of raspberry jam' line, throwing up, and De Niro's cup-of-coffee ambush leading to the boathouse-at-Hereford exchange. — Chris Ryan
  • Bean could change the award's name, and winning both awards is compared to winning MVP and Rookie of the Year. — Chris Ryan
Ronin The Rewatchables
Ronin

What’s Aged the Best?

Katarina Witt; McElhone's accent and outfits; De Niro's case-photo setup; slow-building first 40 minutes; self-operation scene; wrong-people realization; the 'any doubt' lessons; gritty French locations; shifting stakes

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  • Katarina Witt is the first pick: a host loved her and calls her the best-looking female athlete of his first 20 years, joking she could be a Bond villain. — Bill Simmons
  • Witt, an iconic gold-medal skater, turns up playing a gold-medal figure skater with barely a line. — Bill Simmons
  • McElhone's Irish accent is praised though she is from England, and her baggy-jeans outfits are back in style. — Chris Ryan
  • De Niro handing a stranger his camera to photograph the case, then studying the photos, is a favorite setup. — Bill Simmons
  • The first shootout into the first chase is only borderline, liked mainly for Sean Bean going for it, with Bean floated for the Dion Waiters or Vincent Hanna award and compared to a reality-show villain. — Chris Ryan
  • The first 40 minutes build and build. — Chris Ryan
  • The makeshift self-surgery to remove a bullet is a favorite action trope; other examples named are Heat, First Blood, Master and Commander (called the all-timer), Cast Away and John Wick, while The Fugitive does not count because he is a doctor. — Bill Simmons
  • The realization that only the Russians could have produced the second case, 'we're following the wrong people', is a nice swerve an hour in. — Bill Simmons
  • The lessons 'whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt', 'that's the second thing they teach you' and 'no questions, no answers' are praised; a host says he should have adopted the first for Grantland. — Bill Simmons
  • The grey, gritty, chilly south of France locations are praised. — Chris Ryan
  • The movie changes from a guys-on-a-mission film to international intrigue to a cat-and-mouse game with De Niro, Deirdre and Mickey. — Chris Ryan
  • Whether the MacGuffin aged well is left undecided, joked as a new 'what's aged the I don't know' category: it felt like a Pulp Fiction ripoff, but Sam's reveal that he was there for Seamus makes it work. — Chris Ryan
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  • Candidates in a fertile category include Gabrielle Union early and a Chick Hearn cameo; Alfre Woodard is probably ineligible with too many scenes. — Bill Simmons
  • The first nominee is Sidra, strong in about four scenes and perhaps also worthy of That Guy. — Bill Simmons
  • Gabrielle Union's first-scene line about licking the sweat off Q is recalled as a running tease between friends. — Jemele Hill
  • Charles O'Bannon and Terry Cummings as the bartender are noted as sneaked-in cameos. — Jemele Hill
  • The counter-pick is the teammates, who sold the team bond visually with few lines; a Tar Heels friend was supposedly slated to be in the movie. — Jemele Hill
  • The award goes to the entire team, hailed as possibly history's first team Dion Waiters Award. — Jemele Hill
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  • It is called one of the biggest Dion Waiters categories in 106 or 107 episodes; three nominees are named, with Tommy's eligibility left open. — Bill Simmons
  • Kreese is barely in the movie yet puts up huge stats, a bench player with a double-double in 14 minutes. — Bill Simmons
  • Dutch, played by Chad McQueen, is the scariest Cobra Kai and the one who would lead a coup against Johnny; his loss to Daniel seems unrealistic. — Bill Simmons
  • The tournament announcer ('Daniel LaRusso is going to fight!') is praised for his jacket-collar look and mysterious identity and is initially given the award. — Bill Simmons
  • An anecdote about an anchor questioning low energy in a pre-show rehearsal before a strong live show is used to compare the announcer's rehearsal footage with his performance when the red light goes on. — Bill Simmons
  • The announcer pick is disputed: Tommy is ruled ineligible and Dutch is not in it enough, leading to Kreese over the MC. — Ryen Russillo
  • The announcer is looked up as Bruce Malmuth, said to have died in 2005, who also announced in Karate Kid II and appeared in Lean on Me and Pentathlon. — Bill Simmons
  • The award goes to Kreese, though the karate announcer could have won. — Bill Simmons
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  • Whether That Guy can mean someone before they became that guy is debated; Caruso is too much of a lead.
  • Paul Calderon is first named as the Joey Pants answer because most people do not know who he is, then moved to the Dion Waiters Award.
  • Buscemi is suggested and rejected because he became Steve Buscemi.
  • A candidate list: Carrie Nygren, who does not speak and is amazing as Melanie; Roger Guenveur Smith; Leonard L. Thomas with a great line delivery; and Joey Chin, whose Nosferatu spiel is a favorite. — Sean Fennessey
  • Buscemi was a That Guy when the movie was made (Parting Glances, Billy Bathgate, Heart of Midnight, Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink), suggesting an at-the-time variation of the award.
  • Another voice prefers the award for people whose names you do not know: Victor Argo is a That Guy to a movie fan who is not a cinephile, and Paul Calderon is 'definitely a that guy', seen in Pulp Fiction without knowing his name. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Arty Clay actor is called the perfect That Guy too, one of the hoods at the beginning of Once Upon a Time in America; the bride's father from Sorcerer and The Brink's Job and James Lorinz from Street Trash are further That Guys.
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  • Caruso is ruled ineligible as the third lead with too many scenes.
  • One participant goes off the map with Theresa Randle, questioned as maybe too famous or more of a That Guy. — Bill Simmons
  • Paul Calderon is moved from Joey Pants to the Dion Waiters Award ('I would go for Calderon').
  • The Randle case: unclear job and motivation, owns every scene, seems dangerous, barely any lines, and described as a bodyguard. — Bill Simmons
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  • The Dion Waiters Award is a category of one this time and could be renamed the Ned Award; T.J. Miller is raised but passed over.
  • Ned gets three scenes, including the most important moment and a funny diner moment; Lew Temple crushes the role.
  • It is a Tony Scott motif: a minor character grows and saves the day, as Vossler fixing the radio does in Crimson Tide.
  • Ned's mission is kept hidden; viewers see only cutaways of him driving until they realize he is racing to outrun the train.
Dunkirk The Rewatchables
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  • The guest knows the category but not who Dion Waiters is. — Quentin Tarantino
  • Harry Styles was written down but the film may not be that kind of movie; Hardy could be an inverted case, doing the most with the least while masked.
  • Leads cannot win: Rylance on the boat, Hardy in the air and the unnamed kid.
  • Branagh and Murphy are considered; Rylance is a lead over Murphy, so there is a case for Murphy, though PTSD performances are tricky. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Murphy section is one participant's least favorite part, compared to not liking every story in Magnolia or Slacker, though its brevity makes it work and his first reveal is great.
  • George is picked, and a second voice says it will go George too: "Barry Keown" (transcript spelling). — Sean Fennessey
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  • The Dion Waiters Award can only be Hoffman, repeated for emphasis. — Bill Simmons
  • The real Dion Waiters is said to be struggling, suspended twice in Miami for conduct detrimental to the team. — Bill Simmons
  • Renaming it the Freddie Miles Award is floated, calling this one of the all-time heat checks on the podcast. — Bill Simmons
  • A plan is described: after the 100th episode, with the 101st a reheat with Chris Ryan, listeners would pick a new name from four choices on Twitter. — Bill Simmons
  • An objection says the name cannot change yet because Dion Waiters was on the Oklahoma City Thunder comparison team and Hoffman's character is kind of the Dion Waiters.
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