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The Godfather Part II

1974 film

Bill Simmons · Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan · Brian Koppelman

Aired December 17, 2019

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Approx. transcript time · 01:34:12Read transcript
  • The panel initially finds no director replacement and briefly proposes John Cazale, James Brolin, or O.J. Simpson for Larry Butler.
  • Tom Hanks is proposed as Roy in a 1987 version.
  • Will Smith is proposed for a 1997 version and questioned as too handsome or heroic.
  • Nicolas Cage is proposed as another 1997 Roy.
  • Richard Gere is considered and rejected as too attractive or too old for the 1997 role.
  • Bruce Willis is considered and rejected as too old for the 1997 role.
  • Philip Seymour Hoffman is proposed for a 2007 version.
  • Chadwick Boseman is proposed for a 2017 version.
Rocky The Rewatchables
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Rocky

Recasting Couch

John Cazale as a more likable Paulie; otherwise unchanged

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:18:58Read transcript
  • Caan as Rocky with Harvey Keitel or John Cazale as Paulie is imagined, but Caan and Reynolds are considered too established for the unknown-underdog effect.
  • Recasting: initial leave cast alone, then more palatable Paulie considered; John Cazale failed-brother type may repeat roles but charisma would make him likable. Imagined neglected skinny alcoholic and robe-logo hustler.
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...And Justice for All

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Pacino’s second-best performance after The Godfather Part II, strongly disputed

In the discussion (17)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:50Read transcript
  • This is proposed as Pacino’s second-best performance after The Godfather Part II, with Heat placed third; another response rejects even a top-five ranking.
  • Dog Day Afternoon is preferred for greater nuance, and Donnie Brasco, Heat, Any Given Sunday, The Godfather, Scarecrow, Serpico and Sea of Love are offered as competing peaks.
  • Carlito’s Way is offered as a soulful alternative, and The Insider is added to the competing Pacino performances.
  • Dick Tracy and The Godfather Part III are added to the performance debate; this film is proposed as the moment Pacino overtook De Niro.
  • The top-two or top-three defense treats Arthur as the culmination of Pacino’s early mastery: quiet and explosive passages form a coherent journey as the system breaks him.
  • Both Godfather performances and Dog Day Afternoon are placed definitively above Arthur in the opposing ranking; Dog Day receives admiration but is called personally exasperating.
  • The Godfather’s Kay scenes and marital storyline are criticized as obstacles to placing Michael in the top two; the challenge of playing Brando’s son is offered in defense.
  • The distinction is clarified as carrying and justifying an entire film rather than delivering a bad performance within an ensemble.
  • Playing Michael in the first Godfather is provocatively called comparatively easy, while Part II is considered much harder; a particular scene remains admired without being named in this exchange.
  • Michael’s transformation is defended as indispensable to the film; the counterargument imagines De Niro or John Cazale in the role.
  • The ensemble is said to elevate Michael’s performance, and James Caan is ranked above Pacino by one participant; a suggestion that Cazale is better is retracted.
  • Arthur is defended as the full range of Pacino’s abilities, requiring trust in the director and editor, in contrast with Michael’s more observational role.
  • The Godfather ranking dispute returns: Part II is called the best male screen performance in 50 years, while the first film is framed as a young actor still discovering the role.
  • Raging Bull and Scarface are called damaging influences on later actors who imitate them, as an argument against accepting inherited performance rankings.
  • The first Godfather’s stature is argued to confer automatic greatness on Pacino, while the restaurant assassination is singled out as exceptional.
  • A defense enumerates Michael’s wedding exposition, revenge planning, Italian interlude and hospital protection of his father as stages of a demanding transformation.
  • Michael is defended as the role that made Pacino a star and helped make The Godfather great; the opposing argument distinguishes iconic characters from great acting to defend Arthur’s high ranking.
Alien The Rewatchables
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Alien

Casting What-Ifs

Streep as Ripley; Ford as Dallas; Cartwright casting confusion

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:17:01Read transcript
  • The screenplay reportedly wrote the crew as men while explicitly making all roles interchangeable; Ripley was not originally specified as female.
  • Meryl Streep reportedly competed with Yale classmate Sigourney Weaver for Ripley but was mourning John Cazale; the panel believes Streep could have played the part.
  • Weaver's imposing physical presence distinguishes her from the imagined Streep casting, though Streep's acting ability is not doubted.
  • Harrison Ford reportedly declined Dallas; a speaker believes Ford would improve the acting and chemistry with Weaver, anticipating their Working Girl pairing.
  • Veronica Cartwright reportedly arrived in England believing she would play Ripley and learned during wardrobe fitting that she was Lambert; the panel expresses disbelief at the miscommunication.
  • An anecdote says John Hurt lost another film after being mistaken in South Africa for a similarly named apartheid opponent, then became available for Alien after the replacement actor developed diabetes; the transcript does not reliably distinguish the two names.
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Kramer vs. Kramer

Half-Assed Internet Research

Avery Corman novel; darkened nude scene; Justin Henry improvising at seven; Library of Congress omission; J.G. Melon location; Streep pregnant during filming

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:41:43Read transcript
  • The source novel was by Avery Corman, and Jaffe and Benton bought it.
  • The JoBeth Williams nude scene was optically darkened to avoid an R rating.
  • Justin Henry was seven when filming began and improvised a lot with Hoffman, who was reportedly nice to him.
  • As of 2020 it was reportedly the only 1970s Best Picture winner not selected by the Library of Congress for preservation, which puzzles the hosts.
  • The wine-glass scene was filmed at J.G. Melon on East 74th Street and Third Avenue, which displays a framed photo from the film.
  • Streep was reportedly pregnant during filming, hidden by a raincoat, having met the sculptor Gummer shortly after John Cazale died.
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 02:29:35Read transcript
  • Coppola, as with the first film, confirmed as one of the ten most important filmmakers.
  • De Niro announced himself as the next major movie star, doing it all in Italian.
  • Lee Strasberg, a teacher who had not performed, lays down a performance that never seems overmatched next to Pacino, like Brad Stevens climbing onto the court.
  • Pacino, called the greatest performance ever seen and the first thing thought of with this movie.
  • A tangent asks whether Pacino resented De Niro becoming Brando's heir, comparing their later careers.
  • A zag picks Cazale and Duvall as the soul of the movie.
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The Godfather Part II

Apex Mountain

Coppola; Pacino; Gordon Willis; John Cazale; G.D. Spradlin; horrific Oscar results; movies; mafia movies

In the discussion (8)
Approx. transcript time · 01:55:24Read transcript
  • Coppola is a yes: he never had more power, getting the San Francisco opera and the Great Gatsby script.
  • De Niro is named without a verdict; Pacino gets a yes because this was his best performance and gave him the power to do anything.
  • Gordon Willis gets it for this film, though he did equal work in some Woody Allen films.
  • Cazale is a yes.
  • Lake Tahoe and Merle/Troy Donahue are raised without a clear verdict.
  • Spradlin is given Apex Mountain.
  • Paramount is proposed but questioned by pointing to Top Gun and the Transformers movies.
  • Horrific Oscar results are a yes, and Apex is given to movies and to mafia movies.
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