The Godfather Part II
1974 film
Bill Simmons · Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan · Brian Koppelman
Aired December 17, 2019
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Grease
The Godfather Part II
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Troy Donahue
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What’s Aged the Worst?
Newton-John’s film career; sequels; Rizzo; skirt-peeking; diversity; dated references; Carr’s later career; Jan’s characterization; car race
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Approx. transcript time · 00:54:47Read transcript
- Newton-John’s limited film career is regretted, with speculation that a later romantic-comedy industry could have better used her.
- Grease 2 is rejected despite its later defenders and its introduction of Pfeiffer.
- A reportedly proposed 2002 Grease 3 with returning characters is described with relief that it did not happen.
- Rizzo is criticized as cold, unkind, and insufficiently likable, while a defense values her queen-bee role and vulnerable solo and blames the followers more.
- Looking under girls’ skirts is criticized as a dated gag.
- The film’s lack of diversity is noted.
- The Sandra Dee, Frankie Avalon, Sha Na Na, Bandstand, and Troy Donahue references are becoming obscure, although they remain part of the charm.
- Carr’s later films and the notorious Oscars production are contrasted with the success of Grease.
- Jan’s personality being reduced to eating a lot is criticized as shallow.
- The slow-looking car race is criticized beside modern F1 and Fast & Furious images.
- Danny driving up the riverbank is questioned because it should slow him down.
- The sports scenes are also criticized as poorly staged.
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Approx. transcript time · 01:58:07Read transcript
- Candidates include Willie Chichi, Merle, Rocco, Al Neri, Janko and Dominic Chianese.
- Merle is the choice; the actor did a lot in the 50s and 60s, gets a huge name check in Grease and was a Tiger Beat heartthrob; a Harry Dean Stanton line about playing hearts is also enjoyed.
Apex Mountain
Coppola; Pacino; Gordon Willis; John Cazale; G.D. Spradlin; horrific Oscar results; movies; mafia movies
In the discussion (8)
Approx. transcript time · 01:55:24Read transcript
- Coppola is a yes: he never had more power, getting the San Francisco opera and the Great Gatsby script.
- De Niro is named without a verdict; Pacino gets a yes because this was his best performance and gave him the power to do anything.
- Gordon Willis gets it for this film, though he did equal work in some Woody Allen films.
- Cazale is a yes.
- Lake Tahoe and Merle/Troy Donahue are raised without a clear verdict.
- Spradlin is given Apex Mountain.
- Paramount is proposed but questioned by pointing to Top Gun and the Transformers movies.
- Horrific Oscar results are a yes, and Apex is given to movies and to mafia movies.
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