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Road House

year 1989decade 80sdirector Rowdy Herringtongenre Action
host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Kyle Brandt
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award · 1:12:06

Dalton gentrifies the bar

Chris Ryan: Chris prefers the dangerous old Double Deuce and calls Dalton a gentrifier whose cleanup turns it into a family chain restaurant.

Kyle Brandt: Kyle calls Jimmy's prison taunt the greatest villain line ever: a few words suddenly establish a terrifying history. The group wants a Jimmy prison prequel.

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson · 1:48:58

Pain don’t hurt

Chris Ryan: Pain don't hurt; nobody wins a fight; be nice until it is time not to be nice.

The film

Road House (1989)

Directed by Rowdy Herrington · Action

114 minutes

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Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Sam Elliott Wade Garrett
Ben Gazzara Brad Wesley
Red West Red Webster
Kevin Tighe Tilghman

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

7:18

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

No good break; category recalled as retired.

No good break; category recalled as retired.

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  • A participant finds no good pee break; the host replies that the category has been removed. The film's constant action leaves little exposition. — Bill Simmons
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7:40

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The absence of meaningful law enforcement.

The absence of meaningful law enforcement.

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  • An opening joke rejects a Butch's Girlfriend weakness because all the girlfriends are awesome. — Bill Simmons
  • The near-total absence of police despite repeated public violence is the main weakness; the late-arriving sheriff hardly resolves it.
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15:04

Top Ten List

Dalton's quirks (the big ten): 1 Doesn't fly: too dangerous; 2 Stitches his own cuts; 3 Carries his medical records a...

Dalton's quirks (the big ten)

  1. 1 Doesn't fly: too dangerous
  2. 2 Stitches his own cuts
  3. 3 Carries his medical records around: saves time
  4. 4 Hall of Fame smoker
  5. 5 Doesn't need anesthetic: pain don't hurt
  6. 6 Drives an old Mercedes he keeps under a cover
  7. 7 Lets his mentor Wade Garrett flirt with whoever he's dating
  8. 8 Outdoor shirtless tai chi
  9. 9 Doesn't flinch
  10. 10 Jim Harrison reader
In the discussion (11)
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  • Dalton avoids flying because he considers it too dangerous. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton stitches his own cuts. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton carries his medical records to save time. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton is called a Hall of Fame smoker. — Chris Ryan
  • Dalton refuses anesthetic: pain does not hurt. — Chris Ryan
  • Dalton protects an old, low-mileage Mercedes under a cover. — Kyle Brandt
  • Dalton allows his mentor Wade Garrett to flirt with his date. — Kyle Brandt
  • Dalton practices shirtless outdoor tai chi. — Kyle Brandt
  • Dalton never flinches; his posture and composure are admired. — Chris Ryan
  • Dalton reads Jim Harrison. — Chris Ryan
  • An additional quirk follows the ten: Dalton calls coffee leaded or unleaded. — Bill Simmons
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21:38

The Vivian Award for Best Clothes

Brad Wesley’s linen and leather; Dalton’s pleated trousers.

Brad Wesley’s linen and leather; Dalton’s pleated trousers.

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  • Brad Wesley's linen, leather vest and gloves are celebrated as a remarkable wardrobe; Dalton's pleated trousers and tucked T-shirt also influence a host's casual clothes. — Chris Ryan
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24:39

Half-Assed Internet Research

Stunts and injuries, deleted Keith David material, casting-era anecdotes, cars and constructed locations.

Stunts and injuries, deleted Keith David material, casting-era anecdotes, cars and constructed locations.

In the discussion (9)
Approx. transcript time · 00:24:39Read transcript
  • The discussion reports a $15 million budget, $61.6 million gross and an estimated further $200 million from home viewing formats. — Kyle Brandt
  • The hosts report actual contact during the Jimmy fight, Teague cracking two of Swayze's ribs with a log, several long shooting days and Swayze requiring knee drainage. — Bill Simmons
  • A Keith David interview describes an initially four-week job becoming eleven weeks and enjoyable fights, including Terry Funk; Harrington later told him the long cut required removing his role. The hosts enthusiastically want the extended cut, while speculation about Ernie cleaning up the bar remains conjecture.
  • Teague reportedly took his mother to the premiere, where she proudly identified him after the prison line.
  • The discussion says the actors performed their own stunts and trained with Benny the Jet, who considered Swayze capable of competitive kickboxing. Swayze's recurring knee trouble is linked to an earlier football injury. — Bill Simmons
  • Bigfoot number seven was reportedly built for the film, with the dealership sequence costing $500,000. — Bill Simmons
  • A 2009 Barbara Walters interview is cited for Swayze's account of heavy drinking and smoking up to 60 cigarettes daily; the hosts reflect sadly on his illness and death.
  • Dalton's Mercedes is identified as a silver/light-blue 1986 560 SEC; the Double Deuce and Red's Auto Parts were built for filming. — Bill Simmons
  • An IMDb-attributed claim that Harrington thought the film changed club security worldwide is rejected as implausible, given the hosts' view that its popularity developed slowly. — Kyle Brandt
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25:37

Roger Ebert's review
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  • Ebert awarded two and a half stars, finding the film poised between enjoyable bad filmmaking and mere badness; the hosts reject his reluctance to recommend its entertainment value. — Bill Simmons
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26:29

Most Rewatchable Scene

Dalton’s first night and rules; Dalton versus Jimmy; Wesley’s breakfast.

Dalton’s first night and rules; Dalton versus Jimmy; Wesley’s breakfast.

In the discussion (11)
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  • Dalton's arrival at the Double Deuce, quietly surveying its chaos, showcases Swayze's charisma. The brawl over paid sexual touching is recalled as disturbing now but exciting to a young viewer. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton fires staff and gives three rules: do not underestimate opponents, take fights outside and be nice until necessary. His explanation of insults and 'trustees of modern chemistry' speech reveal an unexpectedly literary bouncer. — Bill Simmons
  • The hospital flirtation after Dalton's fight has clipped, almost Mamet-like dialogue. His philosophy degree, 'Pain don't hurt' and 'Nobody wins a fight' lines remain funny because he plays them sincerely.
  • The revenge fight includes Dalton detecting a bladed boot and the advice that even the biggest opponent drops after a groin strike. — Kyle Brandt
  • Wade saves Dalton from four attackers, then spends the evening flirting and dancing with Dalton's girlfriend; Dalton's willingness to get a beer after severe blows is part of the fun. — Chris Ryan
  • Denise's lengthy striptease to Hoochie Coochie Man leads into Jimmy's commanding pool-cue entrance. His athletic vault, intensity and skill transform the threat level after Wesley's weaker henchmen; Wesley ends the fight with a gunshot.
  • Dalton versus Jimmy follows Emmett's fire, motorcycle taunting and the prison line, ending in the throat rip. The fight creates a credible fear that Dalton could lose. — Bill Simmons
  • The Jimmy fight's back-and-forth damage contrasts with Seagal's invulnerability. Michael Kamen's score and the previously foreshadowed throat rip make the climax especially satisfying.
  • The final assault ends with townspeople taking turns shooting Wesley; the hosts ask why they did not simply do that months earlier. — Bill Simmons
  • Final preferences include Dalton's speech and first night at the Double Deuce, the Dalton–Jimmy fight, and Kyle's additional breakfast scene where Wesley shifts from civic boasting to murder allegations.
  • Craig particularly enjoys Dalton's arrival, rule-setting and firing the employee stealing money. — Bill Simmons
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26:46

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Throat-rip feasibility, Jasper’s businesses, Memphis, cars and the missing Swayze sequel.

Throat-rip feasibility, Jasper’s businesses, Memphis, cars and the missing Swayze sequel.

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  • Dalton's first-name recognition across bars before the internet raises questions about an underground bouncer-information network; the opening bar's location is unspecified.
  • The hosts wonder where one buys bladed boots, whether they are custom-made and why this blade remains exposed rather than retracting.
  • The price of buying off a whole police department is left speculative. — Bill Simmons
  • Wesley controls a tiny town while destroying its few businesses, yet his ownership and wealth source remain unclear. A Chicago-mob origin and additional local businesses are speculation. — Kyle Brandt
  • The physical possibility of ripping out a throat is disputed without resolution. — Bill Simmons
  • The group wonders which parts of Jasper Wesley leaves alone and why there is no strip club; the Double Deuce may already fill that role. — Bill Simmons
  • Why no Swayze sequel around 1993? Los Angeles and the Viper Room are proposed as a setting for Dalton's next cleanup.
  • Terry Funk is proposed as a leading wrestler crossover below Hulk Hogan's Thunderlips, but André the Giant in The Princess Bride and Roddy Piper in They Live push him down; no formal numbered ranking is settled.
  • Dalton's Memphis killing appears to be self-defense after unknowingly dating a married woman, making his shame puzzling. His alertness to weapons contrasts with missing her marriage, and the hosts question whether earlier bar fights also killed anyone. — Chris Ryan
  • Dalton's attachment to German cars and whether anyone called about the Buick sale remain unanswered.
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34:36

Apex Mountain

Marshall Teague; movie bouncers and coolers; Jeff Healey; white blues guitarists’ era; Kelly Lynch’s period; throat-r...

Marshall Teague; movie bouncers and coolers; Jeff Healey; white blues guitarists’ era; Kelly Lynch’s period; throat-rip kills; prison-sex threats; outdoor tai chi; 1989 action movies.

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  • Drambuie is proposed as an Apex because of the conspicuous quantities at the Double Deuce. — Chris Ryan
  • Marshall Teague's career peak is affirmed despite his continued later work. — Kyle Brandt
  • Swayze's Apex is placed later around Ghost, Point Break and Road House's rental growth. Elliott alternatives include Mask and 1883; Terry Funk's is assigned to early-eighties wrestling.
  • Movie bouncers and coolers, Jeff Healey, the era of white blues guitarists, and Kelly Lynch around this period receive affirmative support.
  • Gazzara is only tentatively considered a belated Apex through recognition; Elliott's pubic-hair suggestion becomes a joke about a future 1883 appearance. — Kyle Brandt
  • Throat-rip kills, prison-sex threats and outdoor tai chi are affirmed. Action-star names and mullets are discussed with competing examples rather than a settled unique winner. — Bill Simmons
  • Death-deciding coin tosses are proposed but compared with No Country for Old Men; persevering with a repeatedly damaged car is another suggestion without a clear final endorsement. — Chris Ryan
  • 1989 action movies receive an explicit Apex claim because established stars and a new generation overlap. — Kyle Brandt
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36:13

Sasha Jenkins Award for Actor Who You Can’t Believe Didn’t Become a Bigger Star

Marshall Teague.

Marshall Teague.

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  • Marshall Teague's intimidating physical presence prompts surprise that he did not become a bigger star. — Bill Simmons
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43:06

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

I used to fuck guys like you in prison.

I used to fuck guys like you in prison.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Nominees include the dump-truck-balls exchange and 'Opinions vary'; the brains-and-ass remark; kill-or-be-killed advice; the ugly-wife story; sleeping when dead; and Wesley's trophy-room threat. The prison-sex taunt is declared the winner, with disagreement about whether it functions as insult, compliment or both. — Bill Simmons
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44:57

What’s Aged the Best?

Famous bouncers, caged bands, recruiting the best, extravagant destruction, Swayze, Elliott, Healey and the throat rip.

Famous bouncers, caged bands, recruiting the best, extravagant destruction, Swayze, Elliott, Healey and the throat rip.

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  • Chris chooses the apparently cocaine-fueled men at the opening bar and their 'moose lips' dialogue. — Chris Ryan
  • Kyle loves the pre-internet fame of bouncers, imagining trading cards, Cooler Illustrated and a fantasy league despite the premise's implausibility. — Kyle Brandt
  • Bands protected by cages and the action-film premise of recruiting 'the best' share a top preference. — Bill Simmons
  • The gratuitous monster-truck destruction of the dealership exemplifies beloved expensive action excess, even though Wesley's villainy is already clear. — Kyle Brandt
  • Sam Elliott's hair is another choice. — Bill Simmons
  • Elliott's timeless appearance and ability to call someone 'mijo' remain appealing; Swayze himself is missed, and Kevin Tighe's shift from Emergency! lead to character actor is appreciated. — Bill Simmons
  • The closing song When the Night Comes Falling and swimming-hole ending are praised; the singer is clarified as Jeff Healey rather than Swayze. — Kyle Brandt
  • Shirtless tai chi, Jimmy Reno, uncertainty about whether Dalton is a first or last name, 'Nobody wins a fight' and the nipple-to-nipple invitation all retain appeal.
  • The hero's hidden Memphis past is an appealing trope, though his shame needs explanation; the hosts imagine a missing confession scene. The throat-rip move still shocks. — Bill Simmons
  • Julie Michaels's stunt background and later Point Break fight, the Family Guy tribute and Jeff Healey's performance are additional pleasures. — Bill Simmons
  • Swayze's effortless cigarette flick and drifting smoke are praised as hall-of-fame movie smoking, despite the real-life tragedy discussed. — Bill Simmons
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55:35

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Jeff Healey’s White Room.

Jeff Healey’s White Room.

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55:51

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Broken beer bottles; Wesley’s breakfast; morning diner beers.

Broken beer bottles; Wesley’s breakfast; morning diner beers.

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  • Beer bottles broken over heads, Wesley's breakfast eggs and drink, and Wade and Dalton's morning diner beers are the three choices; the last prompts concern about the doctor's imminent workday. — Bill Simmons
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57:02

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Wesley’s house and lake compound; the Double Deuce exterior.

Wesley’s house and lake compound; the Double Deuce exterior.

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  • The Double Deuce exterior and Wesley and Emmett's lake are proposed, with Wesley's house and lake compound favored. — Chris Ryan
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57:19

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Dean Cundey’s overall photography; a joke nomination for Elliott’s exposure.

Dean Cundey’s overall photography; a joke nomination for Elliott’s exposure.

In the discussion (2)
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  • No single shot is selected; Dean Cundey's overall cinematography receives the praise.
  • Elliott's exposed pubic hair receives a joking alternative nomination. — Kyle Brandt
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57:35

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Wade Garrett.

Wade Garrett.

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  • Wade Garrett's light build, telegraphed punches and few victories undermine his reputation; his presence also makes Dalton emotionally vulnerable, though he can have an effective night. — Bill Simmons
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59:05

Elisabeth Shue Inventing Cold Fusion Award

Kelly Lynch’s glamorous small-town emergency doctor.

Kelly Lynch’s glamorous small-town emergency doctor.

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  • Kelly Lynch's implausibly glamorous, single small-town emergency doctor wins the rarely used Elisabeth Shue scientist award. Her past with Wesley is ambiguous rather than clearly a relationship. — Bill Simmons
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1:00:54

What’s Aged the Worst?

Sparing Wesley, absent sports, the weaker finale, editing gaps, lodging, lip-syncing and Road House 2.

Sparing Wesley, absent sports, the weaker finale, editing gaps, lodging, lip-syncing and Road House 2.

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  • Dalton sparing Wesley seems inconsistent after his other killings; a counterargument says Elizabeth's warning about becoming another tyrant establishes the moral choice, without convincing everyone.
  • The haircuts and exposure of Elliott's pubic hair are criticized, though another participant jokingly nominates the latter for Great Shot Gordo. — Kyle Brandt
  • Bars without televised Kansas City sports feel wrong, especially given Bo Jackson and the area's prominent teams; shared sports might even unite the town. — Bill Simmons
  • The opening song Don't Throw Stones is merely adequate compared with the closing song.
  • The Jimmy fight overshadows the Wesley finale. Moving it immediately before the townspeople kill Wesley could improve the structure and avoid Dalton's oddly rapid recovery between locations. — Chris Ryan
  • The waitress's obvious lip-syncing, the barn's lack of air conditioning, Wesley's consequence-free abuse of a henchman and the ineffective stuffed-bear attack are criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton leaves his old job without notice, raising doubts about his reliability and whether his bar improvements last after departure. — Chris Ryan
  • Road House 2 with Jake Busey is rejected as a squandered sequel opportunity. — Bill Simmons
  • Modern litigation might make violent professional coolers less viable, though the speaker invites correction. — Chris Ryan
  • Dalton's constant smoking conflicts with his spiritual, mind-and-body discipline, though pain and personal demons are offered as possible explanations.
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1:04:53

Picking Nits

Missing fights, pay and equity, Tinker’s switch, lodging, continuity, sex scenes and implausible relatives.

Missing fights, pay and equity, Tinker’s switch, lodging, continuity, sex scenes and implausible relatives.

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  • Terry Funk deserved a substantial final fight instead of appearing dead offscreen. A Keith David–John Doe bartender fight is another missed opportunity.
  • Dalton's $5,000 upfront, $500 nightly and covered medical expenses produce a very lucrative cash job; the hosts speculate that he reports little of it and compare its purchasing power with a modern salary. — Bill Simmons
  • The owner does not negotiate Dalton's rate. Dalton and Jimmy should seek equity rather than wages; Jimmy's long-term ambitions are unclear. — Bill Simmons
  • Tinker apparently switches sides after surviving the bear attack rather than being arrested; one defense treats him as a likable, useful teammate. Red carrying shotguns past arriving police adds to the absurdity.
  • Healey's character might be better off working in a safer city rather than enduring abuse at a dangerous bar. — Bill Simmons
  • Dalton could afford better lodging than the hot barn. After the fire and throat-rip fight, his immediately clean clothes and lack of trauma make the next daytime scene feel out of order. — Bill Simmons
  • The standing sex against a stone wall seems implausibly aggressive for a second date; Lynch reportedly needed back padding. Open curtains also let Wesley watch across the lake.
  • Steve appears instantly dressed without visible arousal after interrupted sex, a framing complaint rather than a request for nudity; his claim to be on break draws sympathy. — Bill Simmons
  • Red and the doctor seem implausible relatives, prompting an unnamed possible category about unconvincing family connections, compared with Beautiful Girls. — Bill Simmons
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1:11:24

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

The Double Deuce.

The Double Deuce.

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  • The Double Deuce is favored as an alternative title. A roadhouse is described as a more isolated roadside establishment, though the hosts also associate it with bands. — Chris Ryan
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1:12:06

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Dalton gentrifies the bar; the greatest villain line ever; Wesley may have a point.

Dalton gentrifies the bar; the greatest villain line ever; Wesley may have a point.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Chris prefers the dangerous old Double Deuce and calls Dalton a gentrifier whose cleanup turns it into a family chain restaurant. — Chris Ryan
  • Kyle calls Jimmy's prison taunt the greatest villain line ever: a few words suddenly establish a terrifying history. The group wants a Jimmy prison prequel. — Kyle Brandt
  • A deliberately contrarian defense credits Wesley with building Jasper's businesses and asks whether Dalton is the villain; the protection-money objection is answered by calling it Wesley's town. — Bill Simmons
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1:16:15

Casting What-Ifs

Swayze left Tango & Cash; Bening, Garner and Glenn alternatives; injury reportedly led Swayze to Ghost.

Swayze left Tango & Cash; Bening, Garner and Glenn alternatives; injury reportedly led Swayze to Ghost.

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  • Swayze reportedly left the Kurt Russell part in Tango & Cash for Road House, a swap the group thinks benefited both films; Russell would have needed a different Dalton. — Chris Ryan
  • Annette Bening originally had Lynch's role; Lynch's claim that she was fired for poor chemistry with Swayze is explicitly doubted. James Garner was sought for Wesley, and Scott Glenn reportedly declined Jimmy, raising questions about his fighting ability. — Bill Simmons
  • Swayze's knee injury reportedly led him to decline Predator 2 and choose the less physically demanding Ghost; the hosts identify the proposed role as probably the lead. — Chris Ryan
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1:18:50

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Kelly Lynch’s confrontation; Gazzara and Swayze also nominated.

Kelly Lynch’s confrontation; Gazzara and Swayze also nominated.

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  • Gazzara is initially proposed, with Swayze dragging Jimmy and shouting Wesley as another choice; the discussion settles on Lynch's 'Who's gonna save them from you?' confrontation. — Kyle Brandt
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1:18:50

The Teddy KGB Award for the Actor in a Completely Different Movie

Ben Gazzara as Brad Wesley.

Ben Gazzara as Brad Wesley.

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  • Ben Gazzara's Brad Wesley receives the actor-doing-his-own-thing nomination alongside the initial overacting suggestion. — Bill Simmons
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1:19:20

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Kathleen Wilhoite.

Kathleen Wilhoite.

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1:19:55

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Marshall Teague as Jimmy Reno.

Marshall Teague as Jimmy Reno.

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  • Jimmy wins against Sam Elliott and Terry Funk. Elliott's entrance is superb, but his later material feels cut down; the missing Wade and Funk deaths are regretted.
  • The performer playing Steve's Saturday-night date receives a special mention for an apparent one-credit film career; her ASR-rendered name is unresolved in this note. — Kyle Brandt
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1:21:34

Recasting Couch

Ronda Rousey’s abandoned remake; interest in Gyllenhaal’s version.

Ronda Rousey’s abandoned remake; interest in Gyllenhaal’s version.

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  • A proposed 2015 Ronda Rousey remake reportedly collapsed after her Holly Holm loss. The hosts are intrigued by the pending Gyllenhaal version but wonder whether it will displace the original's cultural identity. — Kyle Brandt
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1:22:14

What Would Tony Romo’s Director’s Commentary for This Movie Sound Like?

Tony Romo and Cris Collinsworth together.

Tony Romo and Cris Collinsworth together.

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  • Both Romo and Collinsworth would work, potentially together: Romo excitedly spots the shoe blade and threats, while Collinsworth admires Healey's versatility. — Bill Simmons
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1:23:36

Best Memory Hole

Proposed award for forgetting Jimmy’s shocking prison line between viewings.

Proposed award for forgetting Jimmy’s shocking prison line between viewings.

The panel proposes a new category here.

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  • A tentative new award is proposed for a shocking moment forgotten between viewings, named after Jimmy's prison line; the group explicitly leaves it for workshopping. — Bill Simmons
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1:31:05

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Right Boot.

Right Boot.

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  • Right Boot is endorsed as a racehorse name after being used for a fantasy team. — Bill Simmons
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1:31:05

Best Movie-Related Fantasy Football Team Name From This Movie

Right Boot; the Double Deuce.

Right Boot; the Double Deuce.

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  • Right Boot and the Double Deuce are actual longstanding fantasy-team names; the latter has shortened to the Deuce. — Chris Ryan
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1:38:33

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Jimmy Reno prison prequel; pro-Wesley documentary; Wade and Dalton in Memphis.

Jimmy Reno prison prequel; pro-Wesley documentary; Wade and Dalton in Memphis.

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  • A Jimmy Reno prison prequel with Gyllenhaal is preferred to a remake. Other proposals are a revisionist documentary told from Wesley's perspective and a five- or six-episode Wade-and-Dalton Memphis love-triangle series.
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1:40:01

Is This Movie Better With…?

Byron Mayo as Emmett.

Byron Mayo as Emmett.

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  • Byron Mayo as Emmett, interrupting Dalton and Elizabeth's sex scene to suggest joining them, is the selection. — Bill Simmons
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1:40:48

Just One Oscar

Stunt coordination; Ben Gazzara also imagined as a nominee.

Stunt coordination; Ben Gazzara also imagined as a nominee.

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  • The stunt coordinator is the first choice despite no such Oscar then; Gazzara is also imagined as a supporting-actor nominee, with the breakfast speech favored as his clip over Sh-Boom driving.
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1:45:40

Best Double Feature

Gladiator (1992, Rowdy Herrington’s boxing film); Rolling Thunder; Point Break.
Road House
Gladiator (1992)

Picked by Kyle Brandt

Rolling Thunder
Point Break
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  • One choice is Herrington's boxing film Gladiator, accompanied by memories of its soundtrack. Rolling Thunder and Point Break are the other two choices. — Bill Simmons
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1:46:34

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

The creek-sex ending; inheritance, revenge and police-investigation possibilities.

The creek-sex ending; inheritance, revenge and police-investigation possibilities.

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  • Wesley's house raises inheritance and cleanup questions, plus a revenge story for his sister played by Bening. A realistic police investigation conflicts with the movie's carefree creek-sex ending, which is identified as the literal next-day answer. — Bill Simmons
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1:47:55

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Elliott’s sunglasses; Dalton’s shirt; a Double Deuce shirt; Jimmy’s pool cue.

Elliott’s sunglasses; Dalton’s shirt; a Double Deuce shirt; Jimmy’s pool cue.

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  • Elliott's sunglasses, Dalton's karate-style shirt, a screen-worn Double Deuce shirt and Jimmy's pool cue are choices; the bar sign is considered too large.
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1:48:58

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Pain don’t hurt; nobody wins a fight; be nice until it is time not to be nice.

Pain don’t hurt; nobody wins a fight; be nice until it is time not to be nice.

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  • Pain don't hurt; nobody wins a fight; be nice until it is time not to be nice. — Chris Ryan
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Who Won the Movie?

Patrick Swayze.

Patrick Swayze.

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Producer review

Craig’s first viewing meets high expectations: sincere, funny and thoroughly entertaining.

Craig’s first viewing meets high expectations: sincere, funny and thoroughly entertaining.

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  • Craig's first viewing meets high expectations: he calls it exceptionally male-oriented, sincere and entertaining, comparing its quality with a durable old T-shirt. His partner also appreciated its earnestness. — Bill Simmons
  • Craig considers the nudity warranted and the prison line startling and excellent; he interprets the line primarily as an insult rather than a compliment. — Bill Simmons
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Chris Ryan and Kyle Brandt join the episode. Bill recalls renting the film in college and loving its uncertain balance of action, drama and comedy; Kyle remembers sleepovers and repeatedly seeing its first half.
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The film's mixture of fighting, smoking, drinking, sex and monster trucks makes it a singularly happy viewing experience; the dive-bar analogy explains its repeat appeal.
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After Dirty Dancing, playing the world's greatest bouncer seemed an unlikely career move for Swayze, yet the implausible premise became a durable success.
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Kyle argues that sincere acting rather than intentional parody makes the absurd material work. Dean Cundey's polished photography and carefully staged fights reinforce that seriousness, with Point Break as a comparison.
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The film is proposed as the funniest action movie, supported by strong production and a relentless pace; the discussion counts nine fights.
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The filmmakers' Western conception appears in character names and the stranger-cleaning-up-a-town premise, combined with older action traditions and Swayze's dance-trained movement.
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1989 is celebrated as a peak action year with multiple generations of stars active. Modern image management might reject the sincere tai chi scene; Dalton's philosophy and spirituality distinguish him from a conventional bruiser.
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Swayze's run from The Outsiders through Point Break is reviewed, with Next of Kin treated as Road House's weaker cousin. His particular late-eighties style, modest build and lasting cultural presence distinguish him from muscular peers.
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Unexpectedly credible action leads such as Willis, Swayze and Reeves are valued, while Swayze's romantic appeal let him cross between action and love stories unusually well.
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Kelly Lynch's short prominent run includes Cocktail, Road House, Drugstore Cowboy, Curly Sue and Three of Hearts; the last is described as difficult to find.
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Lynch's career prompts discussion of actresses being replaced after short leading runs.
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Wesley's control of the police excuses implausible municipal inaction. Gazzara's enjoyment, Chicago origins, Korean War background and anger toward a draft dodger give the villain extra texture.
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The hosts recall their existing villain scale, from Passenger 57 to Hans Gruber, and joke that Gazzara reprises Wesley in The Big Lebowski.
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Wesley's reckless driving, pink-bathrobe parties, two pool tables and belief in destiny enrich the character's absurdity.
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Rowdy Harrington's name seems perfectly matched to the film. Kyle tells of a friend naming his son Dalton; Bill recalls choosing Ben's middle name Oakley.
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A Dalton promotional standee has followed the Ringer through offices. Producer Craig's first-time response is promised for the end.
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The group imagines Dalton writing a novel about a bouncer who may have committed murder.
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Bill recalls a college friend's joke that one should not pursue a woman who just stapled one's side.
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The prison taunt prompts a comparison with Mike Tyson's threatening press-conference rhetoric.
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Bill recalls unsuccessfully proposing 'coolers' as a name for baseball setup relievers.
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Austin Butler's firearms-practice footage prompts speculative enthusiasm about Heat 2, tempered by doubts after Ferrari.
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John Doe's work in X and his courtroom role in Boogie Nights are admired.
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Swayze's football ability prompts quarterback comparisons to Jake Plummer and Rich Gannon, regret that he made no football feature, and speculation about the Dennis Quaid role in Any Given Sunday.
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Kyle recalls wearing a similar mullet around 1990–91, inspired by Jeremy Roenick; the closing conversation notes hints of the style returning.
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