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Law Abiding Citizen

Roger Ebert's review

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Approx. transcript time · 00:26:17Read transcript
  • Ebert gave the film three stars and liked it, writing that it is one of those movies you like more at the time than in retrospect, but that there is something to be said for a movie you like well enough at the time. — Bill Simmons
  • The hosts joke about whether the review was really written then or by a host a couple of days ago.
  • One speaker agrees with the in-the-moment point: after finishing the film he described the whole thing to Liz for 15 minutes; another review said you love it right away and then reconsider.
  • Watching with his wife and Ben, who had never seen it and liked it; his wife called it terrible until Leslie Bibb's car blew up and she got sucked in. — Bill Simmons
Halloween II

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Brackett’s marriage, police consequences and Ben Tramer litigation, Laurie confronting her parents, unused Dana Carvey comedy, hospital youth, and Michael’s impossible knowledge

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  • Brackett may be blamed and divorced after failing to warn or protect Annie. — Bill Simmons
  • The officer who killed Ben may be suspended or retained during the shortage, while Ben’s parents have a powerful claim against Haddonfield. — Chris Ryan
  • Laurie must ask her parents why they hid her adoption and sibling and remained absent through two attacks.
  • Carvey could have contributed a Church Lady broadcast or impressions instead of silent background work. — Bill Simmons
  • The hospital improbably concentrates many young, attractive employees in a tiny town.
Halloween II

Half-Assed Internet Research

An abandoned high-rise sequel, Carpenter’s sibling explanation, the demolished hospital, Shoop’s ear infection and cold set, Carpenter’s reshoots, Warlock’s dual role, and the TV ending

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Approx. transcript time · 01:23:21Read transcript
  • An early sequel concept moved Laurie to a high-rise years later, a setup the panel strongly prefers. — Bill Simmons
  • Carpenter said the sibling twist came from needing any remaining story. — Bill Simmons
  • Morningside Hospital was demolished and replaced by senior apartments. — Bill Simmons
  • Shoop said the cold, dirty hot-tub water gave her an ear infection while the actors had to portray boiling heat. — Bill Simmons
  • Carpenter judged Rosenthal’s cut insufficiently scary and added material including boombox boy to explain how Michael locates the hospital. — Bill Simmons
  • Warlock both played Michael and drove the police car that killed Ben Tramer. — Bill Simmons
Halloween II

Most Rewatchable Scene

Ben Tramer’s mistaken-identity incineration

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  • The reprise remixes the original ending, Loomis’s “you don’t know what death is,” the opening score, and Michael stealing a kitchen knife into a propulsive first twelve minutes. — Bill Simmons
  • An elderly couple watching Night of the Living Dead while preparing a huge midnight sandwich creates domestic calm before Michael enters the neighborhood.
  • Ben Tramer is hit by a speeding police car, pinned to a van, and incinerated while Loomis and Brackett immediately leave; its grotesque scale and lack of aftermath make it the unanimous comic favorite.
  • Brackett closing Annie’s eyes and blaming Loomis is unexpectedly moving, while Loomis responds with monomaniacal indifference.
  • Loomis repeats his inhuman-patience speech like stand-up material and grows increasingly frantic as nobody believes Michael cannot die. — Bill Simmons
  • Karen and Bud’s workplace hot-tub tryst combines unhygienic absurdity, coercive set history, nudity, and the movie’s most iconic scalding murder.
  • The hypodermic deaths, scalpel lift, Laurie’s car hiding, blind Michael, and Loomis’s willingness to explode an occupied hospital are additional set pieces. — Bill Simmons
The Legend of Billie Jean

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Modern celebrity speculation is followed by imagined futures for Lloyd, Binks, Hubie and Billie Jean.

Flex pick · Chris Ryan

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  • In 2025 she might appear on the Hawk Tua podcast, join the Unwell network and release music; in 1985 she might return to Corpus Christi and become a schoolteacher. — Chris Ryan
  • Lloyd is imagined entering VHS pornography with equipment, capital and experience of crime. — Bill Simmons
  • Binks is imagined moving to Burlington, working at Ben & Jerry’s and getting beaten up after selling bad acid at a Dead show. — Chris Ryan
  • Lloyd’s father is imagined with a minor role in the David Koresh standoff; Hubie becomes lieutenant governor, and Billie Jean faces lengthy copyright litigation. — Chris Ryan
  • Hubie’s governorship and Binks becoming Doug McCray’s father in The Town are additional jokes. — Bill Simmons
  • Hubie using the Billie Jean episode to claim he learned his lessons and launch a Texas political career is endorsed. — Bill Simmons
The Running Man

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Split: the resistance is killed; Ben Richards gets a television show or podcast

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  • The pessimistic answer is immediate arrest and execution of the resistance. — Bill Simmons
  • The lighter alternative gives Richards a topical one-liner show modeled on late-night television. — Bill Simmons
The Running Man

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Whether a deadly show could exist, remake casting for Fireball, the game-show set, Amber’s hiding place for the raw footage, a speculative actor relationship, and whether Ben and Amber went to Hawaii

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  • The earlier question of whether a show like this could ever happen is revisited. — Bill Simmons
  • Marshawn Lynch, Ray Lewis, and Aaron Donald are proposed for Fireball in a remake, with Lynch preferred and Donald also suggested for Richards. — Bill Simmons
  • The game-show set is guessed to be downtown Los Angeles, Hollywood, or CBS Radford. — Bill Simmons
  • Amber’s hiding place for the raw massacre video is treated as an intentionally crude mystery. — Bill Simmons
  • They ask whether Arnold and Maria Conchita became intimate during filming but say they do not know. — Kyle Brandt
  • Whether Ben and Amber actually went to Hawaii is answered no, though a beach epilogue is imagined. — Bill Simmons
The Running Man

Picking Nits

Ben Richards’s generic name and sentence, the stalkers’ past dominance, the deepfake quality, the easy return to the studio, betting odds, Amber’s sudden transformation, and the impossible camera angles and labeling of the raw massacre footage

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  • Ben Richards is called an implausibly generic name for Arnold. — Kyle Brandt
  • A man accused of murdering sixty people receives detention rather than a death sentence. — Bill Simmons
  • The show’s previously dominant stalkers all lose to Richards in one episode. — Bill Simmons
  • The fabricated Amber-and-Richards murder footage exceeds even current deepfake capability. — Bill Simmons
  • Richards returns from the underground game zone to the television studio implausibly fast. — Bill Simmons
  • Richards receives 100-to-1 odds even after defeating multiple stalkers. — Kyle Brandt
  • Amber transforms from terrified captive into an armed action hero and romantic partner within the last minutes. — Kyle Brandt
  • The supposed raw helicopter footage includes impossible exterior and point-of-view camera angles. — Bill Simmons
  • The archive labels the evidence Bakersfield Raw Massacres with implausible bluntness. — Bill Simmons
  • A speculative response is that Captain Freedom began as a runner, killed stalkers, and accepted Killian’s offer to become one himself. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (4)
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  • Dynamo is rejected and Sven is ruled out because he cannot deliver his only line clearly. — Bill Simmons
  • Sub-Zero and Buzzsaw receive brief consideration. — Bill Simmons
  • The old woman wins for choosing Ben Richards and delivering the line that cable broadcasts censor. — Kyle Brandt
  • The bettor shouting that he wants $200 on Richards is an alternate for the energy of his single line. — Kyle Brandt
The Running Man

Casting What-Ifs

Christopher Reeve was attached to play Ben Richards in a darker, book-faithful version; Andrew Davis began as director; Chuck Woolery was wanted for Killian before Richard Dawson.

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The Running Man

Most Rewatchable Scene

Split: the six-minute cheerleader-to-launch stretch; every studio cutaway with Richard Dawson

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  • The original Bakersfield footage is praised as setup rather than selected as a rewatchable scene. — Bill Simmons
  • The Wilshire detention-zone escape and Chico running too early are nominated. — Kyle Brandt
  • Captain Freedom’s workout tape is nominated and called a favorite part of the movie. — Bill Simmons
  • Captain Freedom’s cheap costume and visible steroid use add to the workout-and-green-room material. — Kyle Brandt
  • Richards taking Amber through a permissive 1980s airport is nominated. — Kyle Brandt
  • Killian asking Richards to volunteer and receiving a blunt refusal is a favorite exchange.
  • The aerobics cheerleaders, Buzzsaw and Killian entrances, doctored massacre, and pod launch are selected as a favorite six-minute stretch. — Bill Simmons
  • The fight with the ice-themed stalker is fun but feels too short, and the plain-zero line reading becomes part of its appeal. — Bill Simmons
  • The Dynamo opera fight is nominated mainly for the Christmas-tree and light-bulb insults. — Kyle Brandt
  • The old woman choosing Ben Richards is a brief scene nominee. — Bill Simmons
  • The fake Captain Freedom murders are nominated as both a deepfake spectacle and a rigged-gambling scandal. — Bill Simmons
  • The restored Bakersfield footage, Killian’s television speech, and his final exchange with Richards are praised as the ending.
  • Craig Horlbeck chooses any studio sequence in which Richard Dawson hosts the game show. — Craig Horlbeck
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