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Internal affairs deserves more credit

Internal affairs is more worthwhile work than films admit; police-centered storytelling makes accountability officers look like obstructive snitches and encourages sympathy for Peck.

Tova may be the true villain, engineering the deaths of her husband's parents and then her husband.

Do not talk about wives

Bill Simmons: Do not discuss wives; the cynical alternative is that one's wife wants something new.

The film

Internal Affairs (1990)

Directed by Mike Figgis · Crime

115 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Richard Gere Dennis Peck
Andy Garcia Raymond Avilla
Nancy Travis Kathleen Avilla
Laurie Metcalf Amy Wallace
William Baldwin Van Stretch
Michael Beach Dorian Fletcher
Faye Grant Penny Stretch
Katherine Borowitz Tova Arrocas
John Kapelos Steven Arrocas
Xander Berkeley Rudy Mohr
Allan Havey Judson
Julio Oscar Mechoso Cousin Gregory
Marco Rodriguez Demetrio
Annabella Sciorra Heather Peck
Ron Vawter Jaegar
Elijah Wood Sean Stretch

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

22:19

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Van Stretch’s name; wives seeking novelty; murder-for-hire prices; the burger stand; Kathleen’s underwear.

Van Stretch’s name; wives seeking novelty; murder-for-hire prices; the burger stand; Kathleen’s underwear.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Is Van Stretch his full name or a surname like Van Horn? The panel believes Van is his given name.
  • Whether all wives seek something new remains unanswered. — Bill Simmons
  • What is the fair 1990 price for killing wealthy parents? The hosts suggest roughly $40,000–75,000 while questioning what Peck actually received. — Bill Simmons
  • Where is the burger-and-prostitution hangout? Downtown and the Beverly–Alvarado area are proposed without resolution.
  • Peck apparently stole Kathleen's underwear by breaking in; the hosts question whether Raymond would recognize it immediately.
30:23

Most Rewatchable Scene

The first Dennis–Raymond encounter; the jealousy sequence through the elevator fight.

The first Dennis–Raymond encounter; the jealousy sequence through the elevator fight.

In the discussion (11)
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  • The middle hour is praised as the film's strongest stretch; the first nominated scene is Raymond meeting Dennis at the taco stand. — Bill Simmons
  • Dennis turns Raymond's insinuation about Penny into an intimate attack on his own marriage, blurring manipulation with apparent friendly advice.
  • Dennis's speech that all wives seek something new is a memorable part of the taco-stand encounter. — Bill Simmons
  • The taco-stand scene reveals Peck's real nature after earlier scenes present him as a helpful father figure to colleagues.
  • Dennis meets the Arrocas, fondles the wife while the husband asks him to kill his parents, and converts the secret into leverage; John Kapelos's awkwardness is praised.
  • The second Dennis–Raymond encounter deliberately provokes punches with explicit sexual taunts. The first encounter is considered subtler and harder to perform.
  • The camera pulls back during Van's phone call to reveal Penny having sex with Dennis, a shocking and sad reveal.
  • Dennis arranges Van's shooting, kills the shooter and finishes Van as he pleads to return to his child; the initially abusive man becomes sympathetic.
  • The later shootout and chase are solid additional action scenes.
  • Raymond's jealousy after Dennis's lunch with his wife leads to the elevator ambush and brutal sexual taunts.
  • Final preferences divide between the first restaurant encounter and the jealousy-to-elevator sequence, whose sudden danger resembles horror. — Chris Ryan
32:29

The Rick Dalton Award for the Greatest Fucking Acting I’ve Ever Seen

Richard Gere at the taco stand.

Richard Gere at the taco stand.

In the discussion (1)
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  • A new Rick Dalton acting award is proposed for Gere's taco-stand performance, especially his small gestures, coffee drinking and intimate manipulation.
45:11

What’s Aged the Best?

Evidence planting; menswear and haircuts; Los Angeles; Figgis; Metcalf; marriage tension; co-parenting; revised endin...

Evidence planting; menswear and haircuts; Los Angeles; Figgis; Metcalf; marriage tension; co-parenting; revised ending; mall security; cuckolding.

In the discussion (13)
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  • Evidence planting remains an effective fictional device, especially before ubiquitous cameras and phones.
  • The good investigator beginning to resemble the corrupt man he pursues. — Bill Simmons
  • Off-duty menswear, including Gere's polo and sunglasses, remains contemporary. — Chris Ryan
  • Figgis contributing music and appearing as Nancy Travis's dinner companion. — Chris Ryan
  • Los Angeles as a vibrant crime-film setting, and Gere and Garcia's early-1990s haircuts. — Bill Simmons
  • Laurie Metcalf excels despite a limited role and has strong chemistry with Garcia. — Bill Simmons
  • The unusual sexual slang root, made ironic by Peck's affair with Van's wife.
  • Unfinished suburban developments as crime-film locations and suspiciously expensive houses revealing corruption.
  • Faye Grant's performance and the tense Garcia–Travis marriage, with her sexual frustration and his fixation on work. — Bill Simmons
  • Peck's unconventional co-parenting and the dirty-cop excuse that a woman is his informant.
  • Replacing the convoluted original ending, with a threatened assault, shooting, window fall and apparent drowning, after hostile test reactions. — Bill Simmons
  • Xander Berkeley as Rudy and cops forced to work second jobs as mall security.
  • The cuckolding theme is much more widely recognized in contemporary culture.
53:19

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Music during drunk Raymond’s sequence; the pimp-watching-the-arrest cue.

Music during drunk Raymond’s sequence; the pimp-watching-the-arrest cue.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The music accompanying drunk, angry Garcia, and the cue when the pimp watches Dorian arrest the woman; neither song is reliably named. — Bill Simmons
53:36

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Styrofoam-cup coffee and large Pepsis.

Styrofoam-cup coffee and large Pepsis.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Coffee in Styrofoam cups and the large Pepsis while the men watch a passing woman. — Bill Simmons
53:58

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The nightclub and the Arrocas Malibu house.

The nightclub and the Arrocas Malibu house.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The nightclub and the Arrocas' Malibu home. — Bill Simmons
54:24

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Van’s death with the approaching ambulance; the under-table touch; Penny’s phone-call reveal.

Van’s death with the approaching ambulance; the under-table touch; Penny’s phone-call reveal.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Peck choking Van as the ambulance approaches behind him, reflected lights visible on the door. — Bill Simmons
  • The rear view of Peck touching Mrs. Arrocas's leg with her husband between them. — Bill Simmons
  • The pullback revealing Penny atop Dennis during the phone call. — Van Lathan
55:42

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Raymond as an investigator; Kathleen as an art dealer and spouse.

Raymond as an investigator; Kathleen as an art dealer and spouse.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Raymond quickly goes rogue, fights outside City Hall and stalks his wife rather than conducting a sound investigation. — Chris Ryan
  • Raymond's wife is questioned as an art dealer who can disappear for lunch and shopping, and for not warning him that his colleague requested a private lunch.
57:40

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Raymond’s domestic violence followed by romantic reconciliation.

Raymond’s domestic violence followed by romantic reconciliation.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Raymond hitting his wife is difficult to recover from, especially when their next encounter treats aggression as romantic intensity.
57:54

What’s Aged the Worst?

Domestic violence, Amy’s lost authority, old computers, missing boxing and nightclub scenes, and lost Raiders tickets.

Domestic violence, Amy’s lost authority, old computers, missing boxing and nightclub scenes, and lost Raiders tickets.

In the discussion (8)
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  • The film treats possessive obsession and violence as evidence of love.
  • Taking the officer's Raiders tickets denies him a chance to see peak Bo Jackson and sends him to mall duty instead.
  • Old police computers with green text. — Bill Simmons
  • The cousin's nightclub scene is too brief to explore its world. — Bill Simmons
  • Veteran investigator Amy inexplicably lets Raymond take over, with his physical assertion of power carrying a sexual charge.
  • A boxing-training scene could establish Raymond's toughness; his actual fighting offers little support for his reputation.
  • The film's overall attitude toward domestic violence is condemned.
  • Garcia's angry laughing mannerism is enjoyed but questioned as an effective reaction to his wife.
59:36

Recasting Couch

Swap Sciorra and Travis; Reeve, Johnson, Ford, Denzel or modern-day Gosling as Peck.

Swap Sciorra and Travis; Reeve, Johnson, Ford, Denzel or modern-day Gosling as Peck.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Swap Annabella Sciorra and Nancy Travis: Sciorra's passion and contrast with Peck would strengthen Raymond's marriage story.
  • Christopher Reeve is an intriguing against-type option; Don Johnson has the right appeal, though his acting range is questioned. Harrison Ford is another preferred alternative.
  • Denzel Washington could play Peck, but the racial dynamics would make a substantially different movie.
  • Ryan Gosling is the modern Peck choice, with Murder by Numbers recalled as evidence he can play a villain.
1:03:59

Is This Movie Better With…?

Byron Mayo; Ramon Raymond proposed as a future option.

Byron Mayo; Ramon Raymond proposed as a future option.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ramon Raymond is proposed as a recurring addition to the category's stock characters. — Bill Simmons
  • Wayne Jenkins is almost too scandalized by these cops; Byron Mayo instead proposes gathering the characters over oysters at an unfinished house. — Chris Ryan
1:05:03

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

The Rat Squad; Cuck Cops; Too Fucking Macho.

The Rat Squad; Cuck Cops; Too Fucking Macho.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Cuck Cops, Too Fucking Macho and The Rat Squad are alternatives; The Rat Squad receives strong approval. — Chris Ryan
1:06:10

Advanced Analytics Award

Peck’s estimated 11 deaths to five sexual partners: 2.2, with uncertainty.

Peck’s estimated 11 deaths to five sexual partners: 2.2, with uncertainty.

In the discussion (1)
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  • A proposed advanced-analytics award compares Peck’s estimated 11 deaths with five sexual partners, yielding 2.2. Amy’s uncertain survival qualifies the count, and the list includes claimed rather than confirmed sex. — Chris Ryan
1:07:27

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Internal affairs deserves more credit; Tova may be the true villain.

Internal affairs deserves more credit; Tova may be the true villain.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Internal affairs is more worthwhile work than films admit; police-centered storytelling makes accountability officers look like obstructive snitches and encourages sympathy for Peck.
  • Tova may be the true villain, engineering the deaths of her husband's parents and then her husband.
1:09:16

Van Lathan Award for Did This Movie Need More Black People?

No.

No.

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  • No: the existing amount is sufficient, and Black characters need no further involvement in this chaos. The panel proposes making this a recurring category.
1:10:23

Casting What-Ifs

Nick Nolte declined Peck; the extensive other-candidate list is treated skeptically.

Nick Nolte declined Peck; the extensive other-candidate list is treated skeptically.

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1:12:26

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Raymond and Kathleen’s shouting match.

Raymond and Kathleen’s shouting match.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Raymond and Kathleen's shouting match the following day.
1:13:25

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

John Kapelos; Marco Rodriguez and the cousin at the bar are alternatives.

John Kapelos; Marco Rodriguez and the cousin at the bar are alternatives.

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1:15:10

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Lolly and Mrs. Arrocas.

Lolly and Mrs. Arrocas.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Lolly, Peck's ex-wife, and Mrs. Arrocas; Penny is excluded for too much screen time. — Bill Simmons
1:15:38

What Would Tony Romo’s Director’s Commentary for This Movie Sound Like?

Tony Romo.

Tony Romo.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Romo is the clear choice, riffing on Peck's taunts and Garcia losing control. — Bill Simmons
1:16:03

Half-Assed Internet Research

Deleted bar scene, cars, Daryl Gates’s condemnation and Faye Grant’s later marriage history.

Deleted bar scene, cars, Daryl Gates’s condemnation and Faye Grant’s later marriage history.

In the discussion (4)
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  • A deleted bar scene has Raymond and Peck discussing the desire to be bad while an informant strips; the hosts would like it restored if placed appropriately. — Bill Simmons
  • Peck drives a 1963 Chevrolet Sting Ray and Amy a Volkswagen convertible. — Bill Simmons
  • LAPD chief Daryl Gates condemned the film. — Bill Simmons
  • Faye Grant's marriage to Stephen Collins and their divorce following child-sexual-abuse allegations are discussed as an unhappy later-life association. — Bill Simmons
1:17:32

Apex Mountain

Richard Gere and Andy Garcia in 1990; cops sleeping with partners’ wives; slapping.

Richard Gere and Andy Garcia in 1990; cops sleeping with partners’ wives; slapping.

In the discussion (8)
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  • Gere is affirmed for the 1990 combination with Pretty Woman, and Garcia for the same year's Godfather Part III combination.
  • Billy Baldwin is rejected in favor of Backdraft or the film described as Thief of Hearts in the transcript.
  • The Valley receives a suggested case for looking cool and wild, contrasted with Boogie Nights and Magnolia.
  • Dirty Los Angeles cops is debated against Colors, The Onion Field and L.A. Confidential. Internal affairs and cops moonlighting as hitmen are floated without a clear final declaration.
  • Nancy Travis loses to So I Married an Axe Murderer; Metcalf and Sciorra are rejected; Faye Grant gets only a probable yes. — Bill Simmons
  • Imagining one's wife with another man loses to Indecent Proposal after comparisons with The Best Man, The Big Picture and Unfaithful. — Van Lathan
  • Cops sleeping with partners' wives and slapping in movies receive affirmative answers.
  • Gere is tentatively proposed as the apex of an attractive villain, without a firm conclusion.
1:20:50

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Van Stretch.

Van Stretch.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Van Stretch, despite the announcer's potentially awkward stretch-call phrasing. — Chris Ryan
1:21:08

Picking Nits

Unsupervised Raymond, Arrocas’s wealth, the phone call, Peck’s children and criminals’ instant knowledge.

Unsupervised Raymond, Arrocas’s wealth, the phone call, Peck’s children and criminals’ instant knowledge.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Raymond's fights and erratic behavior receive no apparent supervision. — Chris Ryan
  • Arrocas already owns a Malibu home, making the urgency of murdering his parents for business control difficult to understand; elapsed time is unclear. — Chris Ryan
  • Penny could let the phone ring during sex; the counterargument is that an unanswered call might make her husband suspicious or bring him home. — Bill Simmons
  • Murdering his parents seems an extreme business solution for Arrocas, though Tova may be driving the scheme. — Chris Ryan
  • Eight children with another on the way seems excessive for Peck's age, though starting young offers an explanation. — Bill Simmons
  • Criminal contacts instantly know details of a secret shooting despite only a few participants knowing the plan, an unexplained genre convention. — Bill Simmons
1:28:58

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A revisionist pro-Peck documentary; a sequel about his grown children.

A revisionist pro-Peck documentary; a sequel about his grown children.

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  • A revisionist documentary could portray Peck as a loving father and relationship fixer, recutting Garcia as the villain.
  • A sequel follows Peck's grown children terrorizing Los Angeles in the late 2000s, blaming their father and perhaps sharing an influencer house. — Bill Simmons
1:31:27

Just One Oscar

Richard Gere.

Richard Gere.

In the discussion (1)
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1:33:45

Best Double Feature

Deep Cover; Bad Influence; Basic Instinct.
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  • Deep Cover, reportedly originally conceived as an expansion of Internal Affairs. — Chris Ryan
  • Bad Influence for the period's psychosexual menace, or Basic Instinct.
1:34:26

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

A quick divorce, or Raymond becomes Dennis to sustain the marriage.

A quick divorce, or Raymond becomes Dennis to sustain the marriage.

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  • A rapid Raymond–Kathleen divorce is expected; the darker alternative has him become Dennis to sustain the relationship's intensity.
1:34:54

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The car; polo shirts; a giant Pepsi; Penny’s telephone.

The car; polo shirts; a giant Pepsi; Penny’s telephone.

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  • An initial pass gives way to the car, polo shirts, giant Pepsi or Penny's telephone, with jokes about what owning these props implies. — Bill Simmons
1:35:22

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Do not talk about wives; the cynical alternative is that wives seek novelty.

Do not talk about wives; the cynical alternative is that wives seek novelty.

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  • Do not discuss wives; the cynical alternative is that one's wife wants something new. — Bill Simmons
1:35:36

Who Won the Movie?

Richard Gere.

Richard Gere.

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