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Purple Rain

1984 film

Bill Simmons · Wesley Morris

Aired August 27, 2024

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All the Right Moves

Recasting Couch

Matt Dillon as Salvucci; Journey for the car hookup scene; Prince at the party; Bob Seger at the diner or ending; 'I can feel it coming in the air' for the bus ride

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:22:59Read transcript
  • Matt Dillon, in range at the time and doing Rumble Fish and Coppola stuff, is cast as Salvucci, a ramp-up from an actor never seen again.
  • The music gets recast: Open Eyes from Journey (as transcribed) for the car hookup scene, Prince, maybe 1999, in the party scene, and Bob Seeger (as transcribed) in the diner or the ending.
  • 'I can feel it coming in the air' is offered for the bus scene, recalling Tubs (as transcribed) and Crockett, which is tough for Doug Cahan (as transcribed).
Purple Rain

Producer review

Important and compelling performances; difficult first watch outside the music

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:53:32Read transcript
  • Directly invited first-time viewer at thirty in2024 understands importance but struggles outside performances. Opening shows Prince appeal; Darling Nicky previously unknown. — Wesley Morris
  • Songs compelling on screen but not personally sticky for streaming; long music-video form and many face close-ups leave drama less engaging. Partner negative response reported. — Wesley Morris
  • More interesting to discuss than watch outside performances conceded; defense that film and album showcase complementary genius. Michael music considered better aged. — Wesley Morris
  • Risky persona construction both bold and career burden. Current young artists unlikely to repeat; Taylor Swift hypothetical opposed then her music offered as equivalent expression. — Wesley Morris
Purple Rain

Picking Nits

Living with parents; Apollonia’s move and guitar money; cold-water ride; father’s chalk outline; unrehearsed Purple Rain

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Approx. transcript time · 01:41:59Read transcript
  • Kid living with parents despite talent questioned, Carrie-like drama rationale; Unexplained move from New Orleans to Minnesota interpreted as escape. — Bill Simmons
  • Cold-water motorcycle ride prompts health hyperbole; poor hotel versus expensive guitar purchase inconsistent. — Bill Simmons
  • Father original death reportedly changed after Star80 failure, leaving inconsistent chalk outline. Hanging-harness shot reportedly frightened Prince. — Bill Simmons
  • Playing Purple Rain without rehearsal or arrangement implausible; unseen rehearsal or musical/music-video magic possible explanations. — Bill Simmons
Purple Rain

Apex Mountain

Prince; Apollonia; The Time; magazine masturbation; motorcycle riding in lifts; Lake Minnetonka; Minnesota sound disputed

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:39:19Read transcript
  • Prince all-time apex example; Apollonia and Time yes. Minnesota sound choice disputed through Jimmy/Terry/Janet comparison. — Bill Simmons
  • City/state conceivable with1987 Twins alternative; magazine behavior and First Avenue offered. — Bill Simmons
  • Clarence Williams III no; motorcycle lifts, Lake Minnetonka and customized Honda motorcycle yes. Model change during film observed. — Bill Simmons
Purple Rain

Half-Assed Internet Research

Deleted scenes; Susanna relationship; minimal Kid–Morris dialogue; Darling Nikki and warning labels

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:49Read transcript
  • Darker deleted scenes reportedly included barn sex, band fistfight and parental dialogue; Prince relationship with Wendys twin sister reported. — Bill Simmons
  • Kid reportedly says no words to Morris, Morris18 words to Kid. Darling Nicky and Tipper Gore daughters reaction linked to warning labels. — Bill Simmons
  • Song kick-drum sexual implication and athletic stage movement admired; later medication/body-toll connection is participant inference, not verified health explanation. — Wesley Morris
In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:19Read transcript
  • Prince preferred to Michael Jackson as performer and at peak; Purple Rain album over Thriller, movie above Michael creative work, Prince concert preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Other participant never saw Michael live, recognizes great reports and faster concert grooves. Michael singing preferred, top-ten vocalist versus Prince top-fifty, with no comfortable overall answer. — Wesley Morris
  • Prince album catalogue wins. Dangerous personal favorite Michael album but Thriller best; Prince decade of masterpieces and Batman soundtrack defended. — Wesley Morris
Purple Rain

What’s Aged the Worst?

Weak acting; treatment of women; puppet; Modernaires’ ceiling; Morris–Jerome reaction shot; dialogue chemistry; Prince’s film career

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:16:29Read transcript
  • Bad acting enjoyed but weak; mistreatment of women central legacy, including dumpster, domestic violence and period joke. Psychological character logic defended without approving conduct. — Bill Simmons
  • Puppet ventriloquism odd and apparently dubbed versus dark and loved. — Bill Simmons
  • Des/Modernaires peak and album omission regretted. Morris/Jerome dancing at end undermines rivalry after cruel insult, compared with wrestling. — Bill Simmons
  • Prince/Apollonia reaction chemistry good but acting weaker. Later movie career criticized, Graffiti Bridge defended by other participant; Prince spiritual-intent quote and Wizard of Oz comparison reported. — Bill Simmons
  • Time and Busboys career potential regretted; Morris difficult behavior on set remains speculation. — Bill Simmons
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