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Purple Rain

1984 film

Bill Simmons · Wesley Morris

Aired August 27, 2024

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Basic Instinct

Apex Mountain

Sharon Stone; Joe Eszterhas; erotic thrillers; Coke and Jack Daniel’s; ice picks; women on top

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:28:58Read transcript
  • Verhoeven’s Apex is disputed: Starship Troopers is preferred for its later reputation, while Basic Instinct is defended for its cultural impact, commercial success and creation of a star.
  • Apex affirmatives are Stone, Eszterhas and erotic thrillers; Douglas and San Francisco films receive no, while ceiling sex mirrors are qualified by later MTV Cribs examples.
  • Freeze-frame moments are discussed with a Phoebe Cates counterexample; Tripplehorn’s peak is debated against The Firm, Coke and Jack Daniel’s receives assent, elevator murders loses to Dressed to Kill, and male-star nudity is proposed with Gibson, Costner and Willis comparisons.
  • The resumed Apex discussion endorses ice picks and women on top; sex with a therapist is proposed but compared with The Sopranos and The Prince of Tides.
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Purple Rain

Producer review

Important and compelling performances; difficult first watch outside the music

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:53:32Read transcript
  • Directly invited first-time viewer at thirty in2024 understands importance but struggles outside performances. Opening shows Prince appeal; Darling Nicky previously unknown.
  • Songs compelling on screen but not personally sticky for streaming; long music-video form and many face close-ups leave drama less engaging. Partner negative response reported.
  • More interesting to discuss than watch outside performances conceded; defense that film and album showcase complementary genius. Michael music considered better aged.
  • Risky persona construction both bold and career burden. Current young artists unlikely to repeat; Taylor Swift hypothetical opposed then her music offered as equivalent expression.
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Purple Rain

Picking Nits

Living with parents; Apollonia’s move and guitar money; cold-water ride; father’s chalk outline; unrehearsed Purple Rain

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:41:59Read transcript
  • Kid living with parents despite talent questioned, Carrie-like drama rationale; Unexplained move from New Orleans to Minnesota interpreted as escape.
  • Cold-water motorcycle ride prompts health hyperbole; poor hotel versus expensive guitar purchase inconsistent.
  • Father original death reportedly changed after Star80 failure, leaving inconsistent chalk outline. Hanging-harness shot reportedly frightened Prince.
  • Playing Purple Rain without rehearsal or arrangement implausible; unseen rehearsal or musical/music-video magic possible explanations.
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Purple Rain

Apex Mountain

Prince; Apollonia; The Time; magazine masturbation; motorcycle riding in lifts; Lake Minnetonka; Minnesota sound disputed

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:39:19Read transcript
  • Prince all-time apex example; Apollonia and Time yes. Minnesota sound choice disputed through Jimmy/Terry/Janet comparison.
  • City/state conceivable with1987 Twins alternative; magazine behavior and First Avenue offered.
  • Clarence Williams III no; motorcycle lifts, Lake Minnetonka and customized Honda motorcycle yes. Model change during film observed.
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Purple Rain

Half-Assed Internet Research

Deleted scenes; Susanna relationship; minimal Kid–Morris dialogue; Darling Nikki and warning labels

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:36:49Read transcript
  • Darker deleted scenes reportedly included barn sex, band fistfight and parental dialogue; Prince relationship with Wendys twin sister reported.
  • Kid reportedly says no words to Morris, Morris18 words to Kid. Darling Nicky and Tipper Gore daughters reaction linked to warning labels.
  • Song kick-drum sexual implication and athletic stage movement admired; later medication/body-toll connection is participant inference, not verified health explanation.
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Purple Rain

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Prince over Michael Jackson as performer and at peak; Purple Rain over Thriller

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:19Read transcript
  • Prince preferred to Michael Jackson as performer and at peak; Purple Rain album over Thriller, movie above Michael creative work, Prince concert preferred.
  • Other participant never saw Michael live, recognizes great reports and faster concert grooves. Michael singing preferred, top-ten vocalist versus Prince top-fifty, with no comfortable overall answer.
  • Prince album catalogue wins. Dangerous personal favorite Michael album but Thriller best; Prince decade of masterpieces and Batman soundtrack defended.
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Purple Rain

What’s Aged the Worst?

Weak acting; treatment of women; puppet; Modernaires’ ceiling; Morris–Jerome reaction shot; dialogue chemistry; Prince’s film career

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:16:29Read transcript
  • Bad acting enjoyed but weak; mistreatment of women central legacy, including dumpster, domestic violence and period joke. Psychological character logic defended without approving conduct.
  • Puppet ventriloquism odd and apparently dubbed versus dark and loved.
  • Des/Modernaires peak and album omission regretted. Morris/Jerome dancing at end undermines rivalry after cruel insult, compared with wrestling.
  • Prince/Apollonia reaction chemistry good but acting weaker. Later movie career criticized, Graffiti Bridge defended by other participant; Prince spiritual-intent quote and Wizard of Oz comparison reported.
  • Time and Busboys career potential regretted; Morris difficult behavior on set remains speculation.
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