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Purple Rain

Producer review

Important and compelling performances; difficult first watch outside the music

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:53:32Read transcript
  • Directly invited first-time viewer at thirty in2024 understands importance but struggles outside performances. Opening shows Prince appeal; Darling Nicky previously unknown. — Wesley Morris
  • Songs compelling on screen but not personally sticky for streaming; long music-video form and many face close-ups leave drama less engaging. Partner negative response reported. — Wesley Morris
  • More interesting to discuss than watch outside performances conceded; defense that film and album showcase complementary genius. Michael music considered better aged. — Wesley Morris
  • Risky persona construction both bold and career burden. Current young artists unlikely to repeat; Taylor Swift hypothetical opposed then her music offered as equivalent expression. — Wesley Morris
Forrest Gump The Rewatchables
In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:34:04Read transcript
  • The panel would consider a prestige adaptation, perhaps on a struggling service, rather than dismissing expansion outright.
  • Kelce’s pandemic-era rise, championships, Taylor Swift relationship, endorsements, and podcast are treated as contemporary mythmaking material. — Chris Ryan
Thief The Rewatchables
Thief

What’s Aged the Worst?

Razzie nomination for the score; Willie Nelson stunt casting; calls routed through bars

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  • The film was nominated for a Razzie for worst musical score, which invalidates the Razzies. — Bill Simmons
  • Willie Nelson's stunt casting, not his performance: like casting Taylor Swift now; he had deliberately started acting in Electric Horseman and Honeysuckle Rose and pulled back as Farm Aid grew, and he is so indelibly himself that his appearance feels like a dream sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Caan and Nelson were the two draws when nobody knew Michael Mann or Thief. — Bill Simmons
  • Aged worst but worth bringing back: routing all communication through a favorite bar instead of Slack and texts, with a bar name like Chrissy's Fifth Amendment. — Chris Ryan
Bridesmaids

What’s Aged the Best?

Jon Hamm as Ted; the gate-swing opening; Wendi McLendon-Covey as Rita; the $12 workout; Annie's store scenes; Jill Clayburgh casting; the cupcake scene and baking; Annie's mom's paintings; money and wedding absurdity; weddings as a movie trope; Helen's stepkids and lines; Wilson Phillips ending; ensemble performances; R-rated scatological humor; Milwaukee

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Approx. transcript time · 00:59:35Read transcript
  • Jon Hamm, in three scenes, escapes the Don Draper typecasting by playing the ultimate douchebag; "I really want you to leave, but I don't know how to say it without sounding like a dick" is the iconic line. — Bill Simmons
  • The opening gate swing of shame and Annie sneaking back into bed establish her character in two minutes. — Mina Kimes
  • Ted is a textbook narcissist everyone sees through, and making him horrible at sex is a great choice. — Mallory Rubin
  • The rich douchebag in relation to a woman reverses usual comedy roles; Hamm looks like an actor on vacation in a well-written part of nine or ten minutes, down to the Porsche.
  • Wendi McLendon-Covey as Rita is so good it is puzzling she did not break out more; she is a Kim Cattrall 2.0 type. — Bill Simmons
  • Jennifer Coolidge was considered as an alternative for Rita but would have been distracting; McLendon-Covey is more subtle and would not be recast. — Mina Kimes
  • Rita's lines, including the semen blanket and her nine-year-old telling her to fuck off over pizza, remind viewers that married life is not idyllic. — Mallory Rubin
  • Other holdovers: stealing Terry Crews's class to save $12, Annie's bad store work, the Jill Clayburgh casting, and the Bo Cosby joke. — Bill Simmons
  • The Fiona Apple song over the cupcake scene is noted, with Maya Rudolph married to Fiona Apple's ex Paul Thomas Anderson; the scene shows how broken Annie is about baking.
  • Baking in general in the Great British Bake Off era, including the cupcake leaf and the carrot cake, holds up. — Bill Simmons
  • Annie's mom's celebrity paintings, including Taylor Swift, are a subtle touch; her AA character outs people, including Bo Cosby.
  • Money, and how dumb and expensive weddings are, have aged well; the wedding industrial complex is real.
  • Weddings work as a movie trope because they put all the characters in one place; weddings also drive people crazy. — Bill Simmons
  • One participant recounts the only fight with their dad, three weeks before their wedding, over inviting a cousin's boyfriend to a guest list capped around 100-125. — Bill Simmons
  • Helen's stepkids and her 11 or 12 passive-aggressive lines, including the drink-passing line on the plane, are favorites.
  • It is nine golden retriever puppies; the Wilson Phillips ending and dancing hold up. — Bill Simmons
  • The ensemble performances, scatological humor and explicit R-rated comedy hold up; Milwaukee and Pittsburgh are underrated cities, and the "cock baby" graffiti is a favorite.
In the discussion (3)
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  • A sprawling 10-episode show would work better than the movie: a cliffhanger with her rushed to the hospital, new characters like the rival, and more sex and debauchery. — Bill Simmons
  • Objection: fatigue from watching her relapse every episode; conceded, with a suggestion she is stable from episodes three to seven.
  • Nashville, starting in 2012 with Connie Britton as the fading country star and Hayden Panettiere as the rising Taylor Swift figure, had a similar setup; its first season was good, and this could definitely be remade as a Netflix show.
Country Strong

What’s Aged the Best?

Unraveling-star comeback premise; "Kelly Canter and Jesus Christ" line; Gwyneth crying while talking; Kelly's death set to "Timing Is Everything"; fan's rock-bottom line; country music's celebrity crossover; Tim McGraw's side-stage face

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  • Pre-listed for aged best: stars get a finite number of chances to win back the public; Britney Spears had a limited comeback tour after her 2007 breakdown, and in 2020 it keeps happening, e.g. Demi Lovato. — Liz Kelly
  • The Britney Spears-type premise of an unraveling star whose team pushes her to stay famous. — Bill Simmons
  • The line "Who's your idol? Kelly Canter and Jesus Christ," delivered by Meester. — Bill Simmons
  • The speaker's wife's pick: nobody is better than Gwyneth at crying and talking at the same time; the other example offered was The Talented Mr. Ripley. — Bill Simmons
  • Kelly's death easing into the "Timing Is Everything" song with the hospital scene really works. — Bill Simmons
  • A fan interviewed before the Dallas concert says she has hit rock bottom and sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to realize what you have, an idea never explored again. — Bill Simmons
  • Country music's crossover with celebrity has aged well: Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton, country artists hanging out with the Kardashians and treated as general celebrities, Stagecoach and Bachelor Nation; Taylor Swift paved the way starting in 2010. — Liz Kelly
  • Tim McGraw's side-of-stage "so psyched she's killing it" half-smile face; he has one face in this movie. — Bill Simmons
Country Strong

Most Rewatchable Scene

Kelly's charity visit with Travis

In the discussion (19)
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  • First nominee: Kelly's first scene, workshopping "Timing Is Everything" with the sponsor; A Star Is Born may have borrowed the device of two people workshopping a song. — Bill Simmons
  • Asterisk on the sponsor: he is technically the janitor at the rehab facility, which raises HIPAA and rehab questions. — Amanda Dobbins
  • That scene establishes that Kelly is damaged but really talented, with a real connection to Bo, before Tim McGraw walks in with a suspicious look. — Bill Simmons
  • Nominee: Bo saves Chiles from bombing on stage by coming in with a guitar; he sounds great though not miked, but it is unclear whether he likes her. — Bill Simmons
  • Scenes where performers bomb on stage and nobody saves them are excruciating, and singing is awkward unless done really well, so the rescue is welcome. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Songs are played at length, making "Friends in Low Places" a sing-along and one of the movie's only happy moments.
  • Nominee: the on-stage duet between Bo and Chiles; every rewatchable scene involves a song, so the movie can be watched like a concert video, with songs better than usual for movies.
  • Not a single Star Is Born song comes to mind, while the Country Strong songs are still remembered after ten years; "Shallow" is offered as the famous one. — Liz Kelly
  • Actually singing rather than lip-syncing is a huge advantage; the Oscar for the Queen movie is criticized because its lead lip-synced, and a case for Val Kilmer in The Doors is disputed. — Bill Simmons
  • Nominee: Kelly's charity visit where she sings the new song "Travis"; called her Oscar scene, the scene that shows it is not a bad movie, with the cut to Tim McGraw showing she will never recover from losing the baby.
  • The Travis scene makes the speaker cry every time and is called a favorite; the child playing Travis is praised and it is the best expression of that plot line. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Nominee: backstage at the Dallas concert Kelly gives Chiles a list of advice, including never wearing satin on stage, avoiding laxatives and carbonated drinks on show days, wearing high heels, not worrying about writing her own songs, and never hiding anything from fans. — Bill Simmons
  • The advice scene is one of the only real interactions between the two women; it pays off their drunk van conversation where the younger singer asks if they are friends, and the reply from Kelly is no. — Liz Kelly
  • Nominee: Kelly's Dallas concert, framed as an older alcoholic Taylor Swift comeback; she says the title and raises her arm over her head like Taylor Swift's concert dancing. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Kelly's final-concert ponytail and curls look genuinely like Taylor Swift; Taylor was invited on the podcast and did not respond.
  • Nominee: the ending, when Bo brings Chiles on stage for a duet.
  • Final pick: Kelly finally on stage in Dallas doing the three-song set and saying "Country Strong," for its pure star power.
  • Final pick: the Travis scene, one of the few moments of joy in a very dark movie. — Liz Kelly
  • Final pick: the Travis scene as well; the speaker's wife, who watches the movie often, likes the near-end slow dance between Gwyneth and Tim McGraw among sick kids, where she drops Travis quickly. — Bill Simmons
Inception

What’s Aged the Best?

Tom Hardy without a mask and with a normal voice; Joseph Gordon-Levitt in a suit; the zero-gravity set pieces; that there is a $150 million movie about dreams

In the discussion (7)
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  • The category is awkward for a movie only seven years old; one answer is Tom Hardy not wearing a mask and speaking with a normal human voice, plus JGL in a suit, which the host would like to see more of.
  • It is doubtful a studio would pony up for a $150 million movie about dreams now; the counterargument is that at its core it is a fantasy story, a genre with more money than ever, just packaged differently, prompting jokes about a YA label, aged-down stars, Taylor Swift and magic wolves.
  • The film is sequel-ready, but a sequel would undo the power of the ending, if you think the ending has power, which two of the hosts doubt.
  • The set pieces, as already said, are the answer: the gravity scene is incredible, and the bedroom fight where JGL grabs the gun at the last second is stunning in how abruptly the man falls and how the gun keeps sliding toward them across the room. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • The hallway rotation is questioned: the van flipping on level one should itself count as a kick that wakes everyone, which one host finds a distracting logic flaw; the kick is defined as the sensation of falling that pulls dreamers up a level, as when Arthur tips Ariadne's chair.
  • The defense offered is that the team is heavily sedated and several levels down and needed synchronized kicks; the objection is that the film never establishes synchronization is required to wake, only that it is a timing problem, and that close-ups of the sleepers swaying should by the film's own rules have served as a kick.
  • The hosts wonder how many of the cast understood the movie, and whether a Freudian psychotherapist was on set the way an astrophysicist was for Interstellar, since the science is high-level and bunk at once.
Inception

Casting What-Ifs

Kate Winslet was approached for Mal before Marion Cotillard; Evan Rachel Wood, Emily Blunt, Rachel McAdams, Emma Roberts, Jesse Schramm (as transcribed), Taylor Swift and Terry Mulligan (as transcribed) were considered for Ariadne; James Franco was offered Arthur; Don Johnson was considered for Peter Browning

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  • Kate Winslet was approached for Mal before the part went to Marion Cotillard; the hosts think Cotillard, who often plays a stormy femme fatale, is a very different actress, and that a French rather than English woman is what the crazed dream wife needed, since Winslet would not have been as frightening.
  • Nolan's films are said to keep returning to a dead woman who lets the leading man discover his emotional vulnerability; the casting is seen as letting him pretend something more complex was going on with the character, and a joke in a producer voice notes that Kate with Leo would have added twenty million.
  • For Ariadne the considered names were Evan Rachel Wood, Emily Blunt, Rachel McAdams, Emma Roberts, Jesse Schramm (as transcribed), Taylor Swift and Terry Mulligan (as transcribed), to disbelief around the table; Ellen Page is judged perfect for combining intense intelligence with wide-eyed vulnerability, something clinical and nurse-like, where Evan Rachel Wood would be too tall, beautiful and imperious.
  • Joseph Gordon-Levitt's Arthur was also offered to James Franco, who turned it down over scheduling; JGL's blankness and deadpan are liked for the part.
  • Don Johnson was considered for Peter Browning, the part Tom Berenger took; Johnson's ruined-man quality might have worked, Berenger was a shock to recognize, and Browning is not an essential character so Johnson would have been fine.
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