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Independence Day

1996 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Shea Serrano

Aired July 5, 2021

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Independence Day

Apex Mountain

Harry Connick Jr.; Bill Pullman; alien-invasion movies; concussed aliens; computer viruses

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Approx. transcript time · 01:08:42Read transcript
  • Will Smith: no, it is Men in Black, three for three, though this or Bad Boys is also floated.
  • His peak was not longer because he kept chasing the biggest box office instead of weaving in something different, not only because of Wild Wild West.
  • He passed on Denzel-type roles such as Man on Fire and Django.
  • Will Smith in Man on Fire would be welcome but could not be better than Denzel. — Shea Serrano
  • Harry Connick Jr.: with Goodacre, his music, the When Harry Met Sally soundtrack and a 1993 Christmas album, by Independence Day it is really happening.
  • Bill Pullman: yes, has to be.
  • Long dumbfounded action-movie stares peak with Jurassic Park rather than this, with Close Encounters also mentioned.
  • Vivica A. Fox gets a yes, countered by Set It Off where she is the star.
  • Alien-invasion movies: this over War of the Worlds, whose ship sound is better but whose baseball throw ruined it.
  • Concussed aliens: definitely, though CTE knowledge would put the aliens in protocol now.
  • The film is argued to be the apex of the presidency, before Lewinsky, with Dave in 1993 and The West Wing coming; Whitmore is put up with Obama, Kennedy and Lincoln, with nuking his own city a con and speaking and flying the pros.
  • Computer viruses are a last apex: early in the computer-virus era, the plot point worked.
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New Jack City

Casting What-Ifs

Martin Lawrence as Pookie; Oran "Juice" Jones as G Money; Tupac Shakur as G Money; Vivica A. Fox; Michael Wright; Vanessa Williams

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Approx. transcript time · 00:54:46Read transcript
  • The best what-if was already mentioned: Martin Lawrence was cast as Pookie and had the job; one view says he would have been better than Chris Rock.
  • According to writer Cooper, Martin Lawrence opted out after his mentor Robin Harris died, and Chris Rock was the backup.
  • A garbled passage concerns someone turning down Ice T's part; Michael Wright is named and would have killed the part, reuniting later for Sugar Hill.
  • Vibica A. Fox (transcribed form) auditioned for Selina and Keisha but did a 90210 episode that year instead; she would have been great as Keisha, as Set It Off showed.
  • The Vanessa Williams married to Rick Fox would have been a great girlfriend for Nino.
  • Allen Payne was a replacement: Orange Juice Jones was cast as G Money, filmed scenes and was fired, per research; his "Walking in the Rain" is called very 80s.
  • Tupac Shakur auditioned for G Money but was judged too young-looking to have grown up with Snipes.
  • Tupac could be both aggressive and vulnerable, as Birdie in Above the Rim; it would have been interesting, though Allen Payne was perfect.
  • A case that Tupac should have been cast, rewritten as the best friend's younger brother, and would have been better.
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  • Tupac Shakur was cast as Malik before a jail sentence forced a last-minute replacement.
  • His screen presence is argued to have added anger, intensity, and different chemistry throughout Malik's story.
  • Leonardo DiCaprio is discussed as a rumored Remy candidate, with conflicting explanations for why it did not happen.
  • Vivica A. Fox was considered for the Deja role and is preferred to the final casting.
  • Gwyneth Paltrow and Juliette Lewis are reported as early possibilities for the Kristen and Taryn roles.
  • Sidney Poitier was the first choice for Professor Phipps, followed by Dustin Hoffman and Samuel L. Jackson before the studio chose Laurence Fishburne.
  • Michael Rapaport playing Scott Moss is rejected because the performance would not support the character's authority.
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