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Independence Day

Apex Mountain

Harry Connick Jr.; Bill Pullman; alien-invasion movies; concussed aliens; computer viruses

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 01:08:42Read transcript
  • Will Smith: no, it is Men in Black, three for three, though this or Bad Boys is also floated.
  • His peak was not longer because he kept chasing the biggest box office instead of weaving in something different, not only because of Wild Wild West.
  • He passed on Denzel-type roles such as Man on Fire and Django.
  • Will Smith in Man on Fire would be welcome but could not be better than Denzel. — Shea Serrano
  • Harry Connick Jr.: with Goodacre, his music, the When Harry Met Sally soundtrack and a 1993 Christmas album, by Independence Day it is really happening.
  • Bill Pullman: yes, has to be.
  • Long dumbfounded action-movie stares peak with Jurassic Park rather than this, with Close Encounters also mentioned.
  • Vivica A. Fox gets a yes, countered by Set It Off where she is the star.
  • Alien-invasion movies: this over War of the Worlds, whose ship sound is better but whose baseball throw ruined it.
  • Concussed aliens: definitely, though CTE knowledge would put the aliens in protocol now.
  • The film is argued to be the apex of the presidency, before Lewinsky, with Dave in 1993 and The West Wing coming; Whitmore is put up with Obama, Kennedy and Lincoln, with nuking his own city a con and speaking and flying the pros.
  • Computer viruses are a last apex: early in the computer-virus era, the plot point worked.