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Chloë Sevigny
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Apex Mountain
David Fincher (creative apex disputed); Mark Ruffalo as a movie detective; John Carroll Lynch; Zodiac within Fincher’s filmography
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Approx. transcript time · 02:17:56Read transcript
- Fincher’s apex is disputed among Zodiac, The Social Network, Fight Club, and Gone Girl, with a distinct case for Zodiac as his creative apex.
- Mark Ruffalo is judged at an apex specifically as a movie detective, with Zodiac favored over Collateral.
- Gyllenhaal’s apex is debated against Nightcrawler and his End of Watch/Prisoners period.
- San Francisco movies are measured against 48 Hrs., Bullitt, and Dirty Harry.
- Chloë Sevigny is rejected in favor of The Last Days of Disco.
- Fincher villains are compared, with John Doe favored over Arthur Leigh Allen and Mark Zuckerberg.
- John Carroll Lynch movies are compared, and Zodiac is chosen over Fargo.
- Donovan needle drops are compared across Zodiac, To Die For, and Goodfellas.
- Wooden dildos receive a joking apex discussion.
- Zodiac is selected as Fincher’s best or favorite movie, with Seven and other later films discussed.
Casting What-Ifs
Gary Oldman, Orlando Bloom, Brad Pitt, and Jennifer Aniston appear in a detailed casting history.
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Approx. transcript time · 02:07:46Read transcript
- Gary Oldman was considered for Melvin Belli but physical resemblance was an issue.
- Orlando Bloom was lined up as an alternative Graysmith.
- Jennifer Aniston reportedly recommended Gyllenhaal and Ruffalo to Fincher.
- Aniston declined the Chloë Sevigny role.
- Fincher wanted Brad Pitt for Avery before Robert Downey Jr.
- The panel prefers Downey’s fast, nervy energy for Avery.
What’s Aged the Best?
True-crime culture, period San Francisco, Downey, the protagonist shift, Graysmith’s internet-like obsession, Fincher’s catalog, and several craft details
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Approx. transcript time · 01:35:45Read transcript
- Chloë Sevigny’s humor and deliberately ordinary styling are praised.
- The rise of true-crime culture gives the film more resonance.
- Late-1960s and early-1970s San Francisco is nominated as an enduring setting.
- Fincher’s San Francisco feels haunted and geographically unmistakable.
- Downey’s mutterings and banter with Gyllenhaal are praised.
- The tonal and procedural shift from Toschi to the isolated Graysmith is praised.
- The unsolvability of mundane tragedy is treated as a lasting subject.
- Graysmith’s external obsession anticipates internet behavior.
- Robert Downey Jr.’s comeback context is nominated.
- Zodiac’s place in Fincher’s catalog is nominated.
- Paul Avery’s waterside home is praised.
- The Chronicle newsroom recreation is praised for capturing an empty morning newspaper office.
- The soundtrack’s gradual move into yacht rock is praised.
- Downey’s on-screen smoking is praised.
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- Stillman is rejected because the film failed commercially and preceded a long gap.
- A wish to honor a prior Kicking and Screaming candidate trails off without an explicit completed choice.
- Beckinsale receives one explicit final choice.
- Sevigny receives another explicit final choice, with the two leads described as closely matched.
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Casting What-Ifs
Gandolfini as Carl; Depp or Hoffman as Frank; Harris and Sevigny; alternative directors
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Approx. transcript time · 01:15:56Read transcript
- James Gandolfini, reportedly once locked in as Hanratty, is preferred to Hanks; production delays and Sopranos scheduling lost the casting window.
- Fincher reportedly departed the project for Panic Room.
- Verbinski was reportedly attached with Ed Harris as the father and Chloë Sevigny as Brenda.
- Verbinski reportedly left after Gangs of New York ran long.
- Cameron Crowe reportedly considered directing; the panel imagines a different but potentially workable film.
- Gandolfini's menace, fractured vulnerability and believable exhaustion would improve Carl; regret over this lost role and The Night Of accompanies praise for Killing Them Softly, The Mexican and Crimson Tide.
- Spielberg reportedly considered Depp as Frank, with uncertainty about the report; the panel imagines a dashing performance unlike much of Depp's stranger work.
- Hoffman's brief involvement in early development is doubted as casting, though fast-talking con artistry could fit; the real Frank's reportedly older appearance is discussed with a caveat about disputed history.
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