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Arthur Leigh Allen

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

Apex Mountain

David Fincher (creative apex disputed); Mark Ruffalo as a movie detective; John Carroll Lynch; Zodiac within Fincher’s filmography

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

The Action Is the Juice Award for Best Milking of the Moment

John Carroll Lynch going toe to toe with Mark Ruffalo

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

What’s Aged the Worst?

The abrupt four-year title card, too little Downey–Gyllenhaal time, their fictionalized friendship, Anthony Edwards’s wig, and the film’s persuasive Arthur Leigh Allen framing

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Avery’s Riverside detour, the missing first murder, and reliance on Donald Cheney’s claims are the main weak-link concerns.

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

The Zodiac is judged surprisingly bad at his job because victims survive and he leaves conspicuous clues.

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

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Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

Most Rewatchable Scene

The Arthur Leigh Allen interrogation

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  • The Lovers Lane opening murder and its flashlight-on-gun image are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The Vallejo fireworks opening is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Graysmith reading the decoded letter as Paul Avery watches is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The Lake Berryessa bluff murder is called one of the most unsettling murder scenes.
  • Melvin Belli’s live television appearance is nominated.
  • The Ione Skye car sequence is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Downey and Gyllenhaal’s newsroom and bar exchanges are nominated.
  • The Arthur Leigh Allen interrogation is the final favorite. — Bill Simmons
  • The search of Allen’s trailer is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The basement sequence is nominated, though one host says repeat viewings reduce its impact.
  • Graysmith’s late-night visit to Toschi is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The Ace Hardware stare-down is nominated.
  • Toschi and Armstrong processing the taxi-cab murder scene is nominated. — Chris Ryan
  • Graysmith and Toschi’s first meeting is nominated. — Sean Fennessey
  • The final Door-to-Door breakfast is called a favorite except for the interrogation. — Sean Fennessey
Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

Casting What-Ifs

Gary Oldman was to play Melvin Belli but was judged not heavy enough; Jennifer Aniston recommended Mark Ruffalo to Fincher; Andrew Garfield as a later Graysmith; Anthony Hopkins as Arthur Leigh Allen

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  • The only casting what-if with any internet leftovers is Melvin Belli: Gary Oldman was supposed to play the role, and Fincher passed because he lacked the girth to play Belli, which lands oddly now that Oldman is playing Winston Churchill in all his girth in Darkest Hour; the hosts ask why a director who can add blood splatter could not add a few pounds, doubt anyone cares whether Belli weighed 250 or 175, and joke that human body fat is as sacred to Fincher as oak trees.
  • Ruffalo was recommended to Fincher by Jennifer Aniston, and Fincher had liked him in Collateral.
  • A side question asks whether Andrew Garfield, a little more of a boy scout, would have been a better Graysmith had the film been made five years later; Eisenberg is floated and rejected, and Gyllenhaal is called alarmingly handsome despite the wide-eyed look, as is Garfield.
  • Asked whether the film still works with a huge star like Anthony Hopkins as Arthur, the answer is not as well: it has to be a face whose physical presence unsettles because you feel you could have seen him without knowing why, since viewers bring previous films into the room and would read a famous actor as an important part, and the only place to remember Lynch is Fargo, where Norm is a completely different, friendly disposition.
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