Film credit
Lindsay Lohan
Also referred to as Lohan
Stats
- Episodes featuring their films
- 1
- Movies in this archive
- 2
Rewatchables episodes featuring Lindsay Lohan’s films
Mentioned in discussions
In the discussion (2)
- A Lucy sequel, with her running Sparkle against a new competitor like a 2005 Lindsay Lohan, would have been great. — Bill Simmons
- Why Tom Tom is called Tom Tom remains an open question. — Bill Simmons
Top Ten List
Body-switch comedies
In the discussion (9)
- The ranking covers only comedies, excluding horror and science-fiction versions such as Face/Off, Freaky (called actually really liked), Nine Lives with Kevin Spacey trapped in a cat, and The Cobbler with Adam Sandler. — Bill Simmons
- The list builds from one out of ten, The Hot Chick with Rob Schneider and Rachel McAdams, joking she should make a Notebook sequel to buy up all copies. — Bill Simmons
- Two out of ten is Dream a Little Dream with the Corys, a rare four-person switch that somehow got a sequel. — Bill Simmons
- Three out of ten groups the father-son versions: 17 Again, Like Father Like Son with Kirk Cameron and Dudley Moore, and Vice Versa with Judge Reinhold and Fred Savage, the best of the three. — Bill Simmons
- Four out of ten is The Change-Up with Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman, not a very good movie. — Bill Simmons
- Five out of ten is Prelude to a Kiss with Meg Ryan and Alec Baldwin, called the Juliet stratosphere. — Bill Simmons
- Asked for thoughts, the reply places it in the latter days of Meg Ryan's arc, a film that felt like a favor but was enjoyable; it made the playoffs but is not a round-two movie. — Juliet Litman
- Six out of ten is All of Me with Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin; seven is the 2003 Freaky Friday with Lindsay Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis, called rock solid, with a tangent on Lohan's Parent Trap to Mean Girls run. — Bill Simmons
- Eight is 13 Going on 30, nine Being John Malkovich as the highbrow version, and ten Big, called the best one ever and the icon everything else derives from. — Bill Simmons
What’s Aged the Best?
Danny McBride, personal dynamics, specificity, and fan service
In the discussion (12)
- Danny McBride is the leading answer because he repeatedly broke the other actors during filming. — Bill Simmons
- The David Spade theory of nonthreatening celebrity desirability is said to be validated by Mindy Kaling’s Michael Cera speech. — Bill Simmons
- The Jay–Seth friendship tension and their relationship with Seth’s Los Angeles friends feel rooted in real dynamics. — Bill Simmons
- Jonah Hill and James Franco insulting one another is praised for blurring performance and real friction. — Bill Simmons
- The timely Lindsay Lohan joke and Jonah identifying himself to God as being from Moneyball are praised. — Bill Simmons
- The enormous demon anatomy, recurring jokes about Seth, and period pop-culture references are praised for specificity. — Bill Simmons
- The detailed apocalypse inventory and its conversion into 127 Hours are praised. — Bill Simmons
- Jay Baruchel’s later account of disliking Jonah during filming is used to validate the tension onscreen. — Bill Simmons
- Dicks up and Scarface style are praised as compact group-decision jokes. — Craig Horlbeck
- Superbad and Pineapple Express fan service is praised for supplying reunion energy without conventional sequels.
- Combining a one-night party comedy with Night of the Living Dead is praised as a potent premise. — Chris Ryan
- Jonah's dog Aja and the video-confessional device are praised.
What’s Aged the Worst?
Tim McGraw's underwritten husband; dismissal of Chiles's pop crossover; no social media for Kelly's drunk bar performance; Bo's disheveled oversized clothes; dry-bar barrel-curl hair and 2010 styling; the reviews
In the discussion (15)
- The movie is dismissive of the Leighton Meester character going outside country music to find success, which is dead wrong about how the last ten years worked. — Bill Simmons
- Tim McGraw is given little to work with: an unlikable character with confusing motivation, 100% responsible for his wife's death. — Amanda Dobbins
- The character needed more on stage as a former star, or a recast; there is little chemistry and it is hard to believe they were married. — Amanda Dobbins
- Dissent: one host bought the marriage and says they watch the whole movie with rose-colored lenses. — Amanda Dobbins
- He flirts with Meester and visits her hotel room, though he is not cheating on Kelly, who sleeps with others including her tour manager. — Liz Kelly
- Alternative fixes: make him cartoonishly evil like the Shawshank warden, or a former country star who lost his voice and sings with her near the end; the Star Is Born formula works. — Bill Simmons
- No social media for Kelly's drunk bar performance, though there were cell phones in 2010. — Bill Simmons
- A proposal to make Kelly 25% drunker and meaner is contested since she already hits Tim McGraw; others agree the movie keeps the safety rails on, e.g. her tour-manager hookup stays clothed. — Bill Simmons
- The speaker's wife's note: Bo's disheveled oversized clothes.
- Contender: the dry-bar hair of side part, straightened bangs and big barrel curls, which the speaker wore to every dance for the next six years. — Liz Kelly
- The hair is of the dry-bar moment and also a country-music aesthetic of tall blonde women such as Carrie Underwood and Faith Hill. — Amanda Dobbins
- Gwyneth goes from straight hair to full barrel curls within two minutes, a two-hour process; tiny bandage dresses, peplum and heavy under-eye liner are circa 2010. — Amanda Dobbins
- The reviews: a Guardian quote mocks Paltrow singing her own material in a self-indulgent movie, and a New York Times quote finds her seriously miscast as an unreformed alcoholic with a thin, serviceable voice. — Bill Simmons
- A Hollywood Reporter quote: cliches plucked from country lyrics fuel an unconvincing show-business story that is hard to synopsize. — Bill Simmons
- A Boston Globe quote: the film ends nine times, and Festi mistook her protagonist for Lindsay Lohan or Courtney Love; its writer, Wesley Morris, has since warmed to the movie. — Bill Simmons
Half-Assed Internet Research
McConaughey's scenes were shot in the second week and his chest-beating was his warm-up; the film was financed with money allegedly stolen from Malaysia's 1MDB fund and Red Granite paid $60 million to settle; 400 to 450 VFX shots, shot digitally; a Guinness record 506 F-words; the actors snorted crushed B vitamins; Christina McDowell's open letter about the victims; Robbie's paper cuts on the bed of cash; Spielberg spent a day on set during the Steve Madden speech; Belfort coached DiCaprio on quaaludes; 27 takes for the Joanna Lumley kiss; the drug scenes are edited oddly on purpose
In the discussion (14)
- McConaughey's scenes were shot in the second week of filming; the chest-beating and humming were improvised from his pre-acting warm-up; the brief shot of Leo looking uneasily away from the camera was him looking to Scorsese for approval, and DiCaprio pushed to keep it in and later said it set the tone for the film, a pretty good sliding-doors moment.
- The Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission alleged the film was financed with money stolen from the One Malaysia Development Berhad sovereign wealth fund by producer Riza Aziz, who pled not guilty to charges in July 2019; 2016 Department of Justice civil complaints named it as having provided a trust account through which hundreds of millions were siphoned; Red Granite Pictures paid $60 million to settle with no admission of wrongdoing.
- The story is part of Billion Dollar Whale by Bradley Hope and Tom Right (as transcribed): Joe Low (as transcribed), a well-off Malaysian kid at Pen among generational wealth, became a networker who threw parties without paying, went home to start a fund with Aziz, the prime minister's stepson, pulled in Middle East money and Goldman Sachs, took Paris Hilton on ski trips, bought Lindsay Lohan 23 bottles of champagne, bought part of EMI, sent Marlon Brando's Oscar to DiCaprio, who gave it back, and made a $43 million art purchase.
- DiCaprio and Scorsese saw guys offering total control and endless money after Scorsese had wasted half a year in development; in a poetic twist the financing is a testament to the reality the film depicts, money at your fingertips making you throw away principles; the money is still being chased, Low is thought to be under Chinese protection, DiCaprio and others gave back everything gifted, and whether anyone actually liked the guy is an open question; the movie is a lot different without a kid from Malaysia stealing money.
- The budget was needed partly for 400 to 450 VFX shots, uncommon for Scorsese outside Hugo; the film was shot digitally after he had been one of the last bastions of film, and without it there is probably no Irishman.
- The film set a Guinness World Record with 506 uses of the F word, 2.81 per minute, beating Casino at 422 and the 1997 British film Null by Mouth (as transcribed) at 428; CinemaScore audiences gave it a C, the lowest of anything in theaters that week, which is why America is not to be trusted.
- The actors snorted crushed B vitamins for the cocaine scenes and Jonah Hill ended up hospitalized with bronchitis; the film also commits the consistent Scorsese error of a character throwing the head back after a line as if hooked by the neck, which nobody does in real life.
- Christina McDowell, daughter of Tom Prusalis, who worked with Belfort at Stratton Oakmont, wrote an open letter criticizing the film for not portraying the victims; the response is that Boiler Room did have the family-guy victim, that this is like replying to a tweet with the seven things it left out, and that nobody would have seen a movie about the victims, which they made as 99 Homes with Andrew Garfield; the popularity of a movie like this is itself the point, which is where the final shot out into the audience lands: you thought this was fun, think about it.
- Margot Robbie reported the sex scene on a bed of fake cash was uncomfortable because the sharp paper bills gave her multiple paper cuts on her back.
- Asked for takes on the sex scenes, the addressed host declines to vamp for twenty minutes about them. — Chris Ryan
- The last sex scene is disturbing and awesome, such a fuck you and the ultimate turn; she deserves exactly what he has done to everyone else, and it should be an awful heartbreaking moment for him, the rock-bottom guy finally seeing the woman who had his back and not deserving to get her back; the sequence up to the freak-out and the kidnapping is the Scorsese of Raging Bull and Taxi Driver, dread, fear and violence, the eggs out of her hands.
- On a routine visit Steven Spielberg spent a day on set watching the Steve Madden speech and, per Scorsese, essentially co-directed it, advising actors and suggesting angles; that shows Scorsese's confidence, where anyone a tier below would say scram, like a host in the background wanting quicker questions when Simmons had Damon in studio; two cinematic geniuses might just agree there is a right way to tell a scene.
- Belfort coached DiCaprio's behavior, especially how he reacted to quaaludes and the dope-induced confrontation with Danny Porish (as transcribed), the character Jonah plays; a weird conversation that nonetheless makes sense since we are out of ludes and cannot know, something like trying to stay up on Ambien but much harder.
- DiCaprio was so nervous about the kissing scene with Joanna Lumley that it took a reported 27 takes; Scorsese has confirmed the editing is odd on purpose, with continuity issues after every scene where Jordan takes drugs; DiCaprio's dance was done on the spot but learned over decades, a real bar mitzvah robot he presumably did after a few sarsaparillas, in another smashed-up sequence with three songs in a minute and a half.
The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance
Ed Burns; Eli Wallach; Lindsay Lohan; Katherine Hahn
In the discussion (5)
- There are many choices doing a lot in little screen time: Lindsay Lohan, James Franco, Catherine Hahn, John Krasinski, Dustin Hoffman; Eli Wallach is debated as too big a role, settled by the rule that he is not on the movie poster.
- The unnamed newsroom friend who tells Iris nobody is friends with an ex who cheats on them is liked for extreme real talk; Ed Burns, Cameron Diaz's ex, is added to the list with an explicit 'I would say he wins it', and Eli Wallach is also chosen as so great in the movie.
- The award is explained as the heat check, coming in for a short time and going off; Kate Winslet has three men, the ex Jasper (Rufus Sewell, a waste of time), Arthur and Jack Black, but Jack Black is billed as a star and Eli Wallach is not on the poster, which becomes the new eligibility definition.
- Dustin Hoffman is questioned since he is in for five seconds, and it is hard because these people are in it so briefly; one pick lands on Lohan out of a soft spot for her.
- The guest's pick is Katherine Hahn, out of love for her: the character name Bristol Farms is such an L.A. name, and her small part here looks tiny next to all the later work; there are a lot of great small roles for extremely famous people. — Kari Simmons
What’s Aged the Best?
Jude Law's handsomeness
In the discussion (7)
- Homeexchange.com is the first item: living in someone else's home on a whim was not mainstream in 2006, maybe a two-week rental, but it has been totally validated by the last five years and is as seamless now as the movie made it look, with the show-up-and-see-what-you-find thrill or the wish you had picked a hotel.
- Los Angeles at Christmas is truly underrated and the movie did it justice: quiet with no traffic, a coat at night and warm sun by day, Christmas music playing; the drive onto Sunset off the PCH with no cars is saved as a nitpick.
- Celebrating the art of movie trailers has aged well: in 2006 trailers were still corny voiceover work, but the film knew they mattered, the Ringer now runs a trailer bracket, Cameron Diaz's 'that's why they pay me the big bucks' moment with the Lindsay Lohan trailer shows the cynical side, and 'now it looks like a hit' with Katherine Hahn and John Krasinski shows the movie invested in the changing landscape.
- The Hans Zimmer score is very lovely and the soundtrack, with the White Stripes for the bed dance, James Taylor's Merry Little Christmas, the Phil Spector Christmas album and a 'Neretha Franklin' (as transcribed) cover of You Send Me, cues every song perfectly; Zoe, picked up from the train, recognized the music in the car, and it conveys a feeling that is very Nancy Meyers.
- Jude Law's handsomeness is timeless, as is how he dresses, the hot tweedy British guy; men in L.A. all dress the same, so England or Boston professors would raise the odds, and only Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is as defined by one person's hotness.
- Jude Law is objectively hotter than Hugh Grant but gives the same tweedy appeal as Grant in Four Weddings and a Funeral, which one host calls the hottest Hugh Grant ever at a too-impressionable age, while another never believed Grant as a heartthrob; the panel agrees Jude Law definitely aged the best.
- The L.A. house has aged very well: the exterior is a Wallace Neff house in San Marino by Pasadena, seen when Cameron Diaz talks to Ed Burns from the balcony, classic Spanish architecture and a dream L.A. home.
Casting What-Ifs
Lindsay Lohan nearly cast as Jade but judged too young by Phillips; Jack Black turned down Alan; Paul Rudd turned down Phil; Jeremy Piven turned down Stu; Mike Tyson refused until he learned Phillips made Old School; Alan was written as a Jonah Hill-type younger brother and Thomas Hayden Church (as transcribed) was considered
In the discussion (9)
- Lindsay Lohan was almost cast as Jade; Phillips decided she was too young and is adamant about it, while Lohan's version is that she turned it down and it was the biggest regret of her career.
- Lohan in the movie would have felt very 2009 and not a good version of her; Heather Graham is perfect, and being a little older makes the part work better.
- One host is not as much of a believer in the theory that Lohan was a great Goldie Hawn-esque movie star whose talent was frittered away. — Sean Fennessey
- The reaction is 'Oh, how dare you?' and 'This is your worst take you've ever had', with Parent Trap offered as proof: she plays two people, one with an English accent, like a 17-year-old Meryl Streep in training; Freaky Friday is weaker.
- The Heather Graham conversation runs License to Drive, Twins, Drugstore Cowboy, Six Degrees of Separation and Swingers, by which point one host was in love, then Austin Powers; she may have been his number one 90s crush, Ed Burns dated her, and Boogie Nights, Even Cowgirls Got the Blues, Diggstown, Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle, Scream 2, Two Girls and a Guy and Bowfinger show she was always in good stuff and good at sending up her persona; another gets her confused with Terry Polo.
- Her ABC show Emily's Reasons Why Not never worked; Grey's Anatomy is raised as a show she might have led, but she is a comic actress who thrives in comedy; she is good here and way better than Lohan would have been, her 35 making more sense than weird 25-year-old energy.
- Jack Black turned down Alan, thank God, since he would have overpowered the other three; Paul Rudd turned down Phil and would have been doing Brian Fantana and Sex Panther while making fun of it, whereas you believe Cooper as a shit bag even greeting his wife at the wedding; Rudd has not played a guy like that outside Neil LeBute (as transcribed) plays.
- Jeremy Piven turned down Stu, thank God, probably because he was at the height of Ari Gold; Stu is the third lead.
- Mike Tyson refused to appear and changed his mind on learning Phillips directed Old School; the Galifianakis character was written as a younger brother-in-law of the Jonah Hill type until Phillips realized an older brother was funnier, and Thomas Hayden Church (as transcribed) was the other option, a different movie.
In the discussion (3)
- McAdams is favored for creating Regina and launching her career — Bill Simmons
- Lohan’s extraordinary performance remains the main alternative — Bill Simmons
- The discussion does not provide clean individually attributable ballots — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (7)
- Lohan is the emphatic unanimous choice for this being her career peak
- Fey is placed at the overlap of 30 Rock and Sarah Palin impressions
- Poehler and Seyfried are rejected for this point in their careers
- Tim Meadows is floated, with The Ladies Man as an alternative
- Chabert is placed at Party of Five
- McAdams’s power is associated with completing the Mean Girls–Notebook–Wedding Crashers run
- The Gosling/McAdams MTV kiss is recalled as part of that moment
Half-Assed Internet Research
October 3, script changes and production details
In the discussion (13)
- October 3 is discussed as fan-observed Mean Girls Day — Bill Simmons
- Homeschooled is reported as the original title — Bill Simmons
- Fey pitched relational aggression and Michaels also wanted aspirational cars and clothes — Bill Simmons
- The North Shore setting connects wealth with popularity — Bill Simmons
- Sexual dialogue was softened to reach PG-13 — Bill Simmons
- Tim Meadows’s broken hand was incorporated as carpal tunnel — Bill Simmons
- Poehler is reported to be only seven years older than McAdams — Bill Simmons
- Seyfried recalls Chabert welcoming her and listening to Dido together — Bill Simmons
- An alleged deleted explicit scene is read and doubted as tonally implausible — Bill Simmons
- A sausage piece reportedly motivated the Chihuahua gag — Bill Simmons
- The Broadway musical is praised secondhand — Bill Simmons
- The direct-to-video sequel and Lohan’s later sequel pitches are discussed — Bill Simmons
- The hosts speculate over whether McAdams or Poehler would be hardest to schedule — Bill Simmons
Casting What-Ifs
No recast
In the discussion (7)
- Lohan and McAdams originally auditioned for the opposite roles — Bill Simmons
- Lohan wanted Regina; the director insisted she was the heroine — Bill Simmons
- McAdams is judged too knowing to make the homeschooled Cady work — Bill Simmons
- James Franco is reported as an Aaron Samuels possibility — Bill Simmons
- Franco would add a darker presence that might shift focus away from the girls — Bill Simmons
- Elisha Cuthbert is reported to have lost Regina — Bill Simmons
- The panel prefers the cast as it is — Bill Simmons











