Film credit
Al Pacino
Also referred to as Pacino
Stats
- Episodes featuring their films
- 16
- Movies in this archive
- 17
Rewatchables episodes featuring Al Pacino’s films
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
2019 film
Bill Simmons · Sean Fennessey · Chris Ryan
Aired February 6, 2020
Mentioned in discussions
In the discussion (6)
- Washington, who establishes himself as a movie star at another level, still discussed 25 years later.
- A case for Hackman or Scott is considered, but it has to be Denzel supercharging into mainstream stardom.
- Don Simpson and Denzel are joked about as a tie. — Bill Simmons
- Denzel as well, since his part was a little harder. — Bill Simmons
- Without A Few Good Men there is a case for Hackman, but his performance carries Jessup fumes, and Nicholson did it better with a higher ceiling. — Bill Simmons
- Al Pacino is joked to have won this podcast. — Bill Simmons
Podcast choices
- Speaker not identified
- Denzel Washington
- Speaker not identified
- Denzel Washington
Casting What-Ifs
Val Kilmer; Al Pacino as Ramsey; Brad Pitt as Hunter; Warren Beatty; Tommy Lee Jones as Ramsey; Tom Cruise as Hunter
In the discussion (7)
- The hosts say Simpson and Bruckheimer offered Val Kilmer a headlining role, which he declined and later regretted; the role was never specified. — Bill Simmons
- Guesses for the Kilmer role are Viggo's part or Hunter, possibly turned down for not being big enough; he could have played every part except Hackman's. — Bill Simmons
- Al Pacino was originally offered Captain Ramsey and would have dialed it up to 90 in his Vincent Hanna zone. — Bill Simmons
- Brad Pitt wanted to play Hunter when Pacino might be Ramsey, then passed when Pacino dropped out. — Bill Simmons
- Warren Beatty was courted, another case of Beatty flirting with a part for a year before declining, as with the Burt Reynolds part in Boogie Nights, which is called the bigger miss; he would not have fit this movie. — Bill Simmons
- Tommy Lee Jones passed on the Hackman part; he would have worked, having done something similar in Under Siege. — Bill Simmons
- Per a Don Simpson interview at Santa Anita, Pitt and Tom Cruise were considered for Denzel's part; Cruise was the first call for such parts for a decade, but it worked out perfectly. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (2)
The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie
"Treachery is everywhere"; "Finance is a gun. Politics is knowing when to pull the trigger"; "It's dangerous to be an honest man"; "Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment"; "He who builds on the people builds on mud"; "I don't need tough guys. I need more lawyers"; "Now they'll fear you" / "Maybe they should fear you"
In the discussion (3)
- The quote list: treachery is everywhere; finance is a gun and politics is knowing when to pull the trigger; it's dangerous to be an honest man; never hate your enemies. — Bill Simmons
- "Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgment" is called a personal approach that sits behind a host's desk. — Bill Simmons
- More quotes: he who builds on the people builds on mud; I don't need tough guys, I need more lawyers; "Now they'll fear you" answered by "Maybe they should fear you", delivered in a good Pacino voice. — Bill Simmons
The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award
Pacino's heart attack in the kitchen
In the discussion (3)
- Nominees are every Eli Wallach scene, Pacino's kitchen heart attack shouting "Fredo!", and Pacino at the end.
- Garcia is defended as great in the movie, though he hits every line with an exclamation point; Internal Affairs is praised, drawing a complaint about hyping mediocre cop movies and a Proof of Life jab.
- The award goes to Pacino's heart attack, where he really goes for it for 40 seconds. — Bill Simmons
The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award
The Ghost actor as one of the apartment assassins; Don Novello as Dominic Abondondo; Mario Donatone as the Sicilian assassin
In the discussion (5)
- The first pick is one of the two assassins in Vincent's apartment with Bridget Fonda, the actor who played Willie Lopez in Ghost; the scene is bad but lovable, with the most incompetent assassins ever. — Bill Simmons
- Don Novello, Father Guido Sarducci, plays the PR man Dominic Abondondo, which is funny in a movie about the Pope and the Church. — Sean Fennessey
- John Savage is called kind of a That Guy, since The Deer Hunter was pretty big. — Chris Ryan
- Mario Donatone is named as the Sicilian assassin (transcribed "Moscow"). — Chris Ryan
- The Archbishop Gilday actor prompts a repeated impression of "the power to absolve debt is greater than the power of forgiveness", and Pacino seems to be keeping a straight face.
Casting What-Ifs
Alec Baldwin as Vincent; Robert De Niro as Vincent; Frank Sinatra as Don Altobello; Joe Spinell as Willie Cicci
In the discussion (7)
- Alec Baldwin as Vincent seems true and may have been his before he dropped out, part of a strange late-80s run of decisions. — Bill Simmons
- Nicolas Cage, a family member, could have been good.
- From internet lists, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon and Val Kilmer are not believed; Charlie Sheen maybe; Vincent Spano makes sense; Billy Zane is listed; a Luke Perry audition is doubted; where they landed was right. — Bill Simmons
- De Niro wanting to play Vincent, with Pacino aged up, seems true; Coppola did think about it. — Bill Simmons
- Sinatra for Altobello is carried into the what-ifs alongside the names mentioned for Vincent. — Bill Simmons
- The actor who played Willie Cicci (transcribed "Joe Spinelli") was supposed to work for Zasa but died before the movie, so the character was written out. — Bill Simmons
- Paramount approached Sly Stallone, Scorsese, Cimino and Warren Beatty over the years; in the early 80s Stallone was to write and direct with John Travolta, and there is an internet rumor that Eisner took a run at the script.
What’s Aged the Best?
Andy Garcia and the bastard-son concept; Pacino's 'It was not what I wanted' outburst; Al Neri; Italy; the Apollonia flashbacks
In the discussion (5)
- The Archbishop Gilday actor (transcribed "Donald Donnelly") is placed in both aged best and aged worst: bizarre, singular, acting from his tonsils; Albert Finney and Marcello Mastroianni were reportedly discussed for the part.
- Andy Garcia and the bastard-son concept age best, because the son has something to prove. — Bill Simmons
- Pacino's "I command this family, right or wrong... it was not what I wanted" followed by "understand" shows awareness of his own temper, unlike the later overacting.
- Al Neri, Fredo's killer, is still kept around 20 years later. — Bill Simmons
- Italy always ages best, and the Apollonia flashbacks are welcome as Michael's true love. — Bill Simmons
Most Rewatchable Scene
First meeting of Zasa, Vincent and Michael in Michael's office
In the discussion (15)
- The category opens with the Zasa-Vincent showdown in Michael's office, with Garcia's leather-jacket wedding look and good drunk acting as Connie takes his drink. — Bill Simmons
- Vincent is Sonny's son with the bridesmaid from the first film, Lucy Mancini, who is seen at the party; her description in the book is recalled. — Bill Simmons
- Biting an ear to draw blood is described as a Sicilian custom meaning a fight to the death, prompting jokes about a later boxing ear bite. — Bill Simmons
- "Say it to his face" and "all bastards are liars, Shakespeare wrote poems about it" are praised as stagey but great dialogue, with Mantegna doing Gotti in real time.
- Mantegna's career is traced from House of Games through Bugsy and Searching for Bobby Fischer, originating Ricky Roma on stage, and Fat Tony on The Simpsons. — Bill Simmons
- The penthouse commission scene is next: Michael's gifts, the helicopter attack, the oranges, Al Neri's return, and Altobello conveniently stepping out.
- That scene feels like a crappy 70s exploitation movie but works, and it could be argued as the best stretch because it leads straight to the kitchen scene.
- In the kitchen, Garcia's "I say we hit back" and Pacino's "just when I thought I was out" line paid off the trailers in theaters; the line is the one Silvio quotes on The Sopranos. — Bill Simmons
- The feast set piece is praised: the raffle car, the Italian-Americans speech, and Garcia revealed as the mounted cop who kills Zasa. — Bill Simmons
- The shaving scene, cross-cut with the Altobello and Lucchesi scenes, shows Michael warning Vincent off Mary without forbidding it; "when they come, they come at what you love" is singled out. — Bill Simmons
- Michael making Vincent the new Don is abrupt but liked, including how everyone in the room reacts. — Bill Simmons
- Vincent breaking it off with Mary is tagged as Sofia Coppola's only half-decent scene, though the pair's chemistry is not bought. — Bill Simmons
- The extended opera murder montage is called unbelievable and gets a vote for most rewatchable.
- The pushback is that the montage runs far too long with too much opera, even if it is well staged and a mother's favorite.
- Asked for an alternative, another pick is the first meeting of Zasa, Vincent and Michael with the ear bite, the New York crime movie that was wanted instead of Sicily. — Sean Fennessey
What’s Aged the Best?
1969 Hollywood recreation; music and constant soundtrack; Rick Dalton's house; Brandy the dog; Playboy Mansion; extended cast; the title's misdirection; three-day structure
In the discussion (12)
- Rick Dalton's house was for sale and was looked at on Zillow, leading to jokes about moving The Ringer into the Boogie Nights house.
- Brandy the dog has aged the best, with a proposed Oscar for best performance by a pet and an Aaron Sorkin War Horse joke. — Bill Simmons
- The recreation of 1969 Hollywood is praised, including reconstructed neon signage on Sunset and Hollywood Boulevard, production design and costumes. — Bill Simmons
- A story told by Tarantino to a host: scouting Lee Van Cleef's house, he found a giant painting of Van Cleef in the garage, which inspired Rick's portrait in the driveway. — Sean Fennessey
- Rick's story of almost getting the McQueen movie and the accumulated fictional works of Rick Dalton are inventive; Tarantino has plotted Rick's 1970s in an interview with Kim Morgan.
- The real Playboy Mansion, Polanski dressed like Austin Powers, and two-floor 1960s airplanes with cigarettes are enjoyed. — Bill Simmons
- Asked whether he has ever danced on an airplane, the answer is every time he flies. — Bill Simmons
- El Coyote has not changed, but its food has not aged the best. — Bill Simmons
- The extended cast is a strength, including Madsen, Luke Perry, Pacino, Kurt Russell, Emil Hirsch and Oliphant, with Manson family members played by daughters of famous people.
- The title's trick sets the viewer up for nobody dying; on first viewing everyone was expected to be murdered.
- The constant radio and TV in the background is relatable; Tarantino is said to have listened to about 16 hours of KHJ broadcasts. The three-day structure is also praised. — Chris Ryan
- The closing picks are how the film recreated 1969 Hollywood, and the music and constant soundtrack. — Bill Simmons
Most Rewatchable Scene
Rick's trailer meltdown; Cliff on the roof and the Bruce Lee flashback
In the discussion (21)
- Pacino at Muso and Franks telling Rick his career is basically over is offered first; Pacino is called a sequel to his Heat performance. — Bill Simmons
- Marvin's night of brandy and watching movies alone is described as a host's idea of heaven.
- Pacino's character is said to be based on Dino De Laurentis, who brought actors like Bert Reynolds to Italy; his pitch speech is called pure Tarantino, like Tarantino's Top Gun speech in Sleep With Me.
- Rick crying in the parking lot after the meeting ("It's official, old buddy") is a favorite; with Cliff driving and Mrs. Robinson on the radio it sets up the whole crisis within five minutes. — Bill Simmons
- Cliff's return to his trailer at the Van Nuys drive-in with his dog, TV Guide and dog food is praised as a scene that should not work but does on Pitt's charisma, including him talking back to the TV. — Bill Simmons
- Asked whether he would be okay with that dog on a plane, the answer is no. — Bill Simmons
- The Bruce Lee scene: Cliff climbs onto the roof, takes his shirt off to fix the antenna, drawing a reaction in the theater, and flashes back to the fight.
- The fight is read as an exaggerated false memory: the onlookers vanish from the frame, so Cliff is an unreliable narrator, and the outrage over disrespect to Bruce Lee misses that point. — Sean Fennessey
- Showing Bruce Lee as overconfident is not considered an insult, since that confidence was part of his greatness. — Bill Simmons
- Sharon watching herself in a movie theater, after picking up a hitchhiker, is a favorite; every driving scene is rewatchable, one of two favorite driving-around movies. — Bill Simmons
- Using the real Sharon Tate on screen is praised; the idea is said to come from Tarantino's own experience at a theater after True Romance. — Bill Simmons
- Margot Robbie is called phenomenal here, more than in Bombshell; in a Golden Globes speech Tarantino is quoted as saying she brought the most goodness to any of his movies, a pure essence in an indecent body of work. — Bill Simmons
- A skipped scene: Rick floating in his pool running lines from a tape recorder while making whiskey sours. — Sean Fennessey
- Cliff picking up the hitchhiker is an amazing five minutes, with a Neil Diamond song; the soundtrack may be Tarantino's best.
- Rick's trailer freakout after blowing his lines is said to be going to win the category, and is described as improvised from DiCaprio's idea.
- Cliff's visit to Spahn Ranch is meant to evoke Texas Chainsaw Massacre, with the dogs playing the role of the Apocalypse Now helicopters; it loses some effect on rewatch. — Bill Simmons
- Lena Dunham's casting among the Manson family is distracting, and the stunt casting throws the viewer off. — Bill Simmons
- In the finale Cliff, high on an acid-laced cigarette, does all the work but Rick gets the credit, just like a movie. — Bill Simmons
- Rick's scenes with the child actor Trudi and the Rolling Stones "Out of Time" sequence with the lights coming on are added. — Chris Ryan
- One pick is Leo blowing his lines and freaking out in his trailer, including the Oliphon "line!" sequence. — Chris Ryan
- Another pick is Cliff on the roof and the Bruce Lee scene, the one most looked forward to on a third rewatch. — Bill Simmons
Who Won the Movie?
Al Pacino; Michael Mann
In the discussion (2)
- One voice picks Pacino this time around as the engine of the movie who brings energy to every scene; a remark that Michael Mann was expected hands down has no resolved speaker. — Bill Simmons
- The other voice picks Michael Mann because he pulled it off: two great actors and the character actors doing their thing, an almost perfectly cast movie that holds up, created the anti-hero template and has been ripped off for 25 years. — Bill Simmons
Podcast choices
- Bill Simmons
- Michael Mann
Films in the archive
The Godfather Part II
1974
The Godfather Part III
1990
The Insider
1999
The Irishman
2019
Two for the Money
2005


