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The Devil’s Advocate

year 1997decade 90sdirector Taylor Hackfordgenre Horrorgenre Fantasy
host Bill Simmonshost Chris Ryanhost Van Lathan theme Courtroom Month
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award · 1:11:26

Keanu Reeves as the greatest bad actor of the last 35 years

Bill Simmons: Reeves is called a beloved major star with limited acting and accent skills, who found an ideal stripped-down style in John Wick.

Van Lathan: His blankness is defended as making extraordinary events believable in The Matrix and this film.

The film

The Devil’s Advocate (1997)

Directed by Taylor Hackford · Horror

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Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Keanu Reeves Kevin Lomax
Al Pacino John Milton
Charlize Theron Mary Ann Lomax
Jeffrey Jones Eddie Barzoon
Judith Ivey Mrs. Lomax

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

14:17

Picking Nits

Too little courtroom material

Too little courtroom material

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  • The Gettys and Cullen trials are interesting but abbreviated, especially as Mary Ann’s subplot takes over. — Bill Simmons
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22:59

What’s Aged the Worst?

Dated supernatural visual effects

Dated supernatural visual effects

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  • A more serious directorial approach is considered; moving artwork and overt supernatural effects can undermine the climax. — Chris Ryan
  • The special effects have not aged well, but were cool and frightening when first seen. — Van Lathan
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32:41

Roger Ebert's review
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  • The review objects that the film is neither serious exploration nor fully dark comedy and calls the epilogue a cheat, while acknowledging splendid moments. — Bill Simmons
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32:59

Most Rewatchable Scene

The final Milton speech; the subway scene; the rooftop meeting

The final Milton speech; the subway scene; the rooftop meeting

In the discussion (10)
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  • The opening cross-examination is gripping but immediately exposes the protagonist’s cruelty toward a child he knows is telling the truth.
  • The rooftop meeting is praised as harrowing and visually convincing. — Bill Simmons
  • The hair suggestion, Mary Ann’s shopping trip and demonic vision, and Milton speaking Spanish on the subway are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The subway threat escalates through increasingly specific humiliations, including the victim’s favorite green bedspread; the travel logistics are jokingly questioned.
  • Kevin’s concise opening statement undermines his own client while winning the jury’s goodwill. — Bill Simmons
  • Eddie Barzoon’s death and Milton’s monologue are praised; jogging is mocked, and the horsemen color symbolism and societal indictment are discussed. — Bill Simmons
  • The scene where Charlize kills herself is called intense and great but explicitly not rewatchable. — Bill Simmons
  • The final confrontation and speech are praised; the empty street suggests supernatural limbo, and Milton’s gestures and emphases are singled out. Kevin’s ignorance is defended as necessary to the contrast.
  • Final preferences include the look-but-don’t-touch speech, the subway and the rooftop meeting.
  • The Moyez basement scene is belatedly praised despite the Haitian accent; a longer television version could spend episodes on the case.
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34:55

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The rooftop water garden

The rooftop water garden

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  • The first rooftop meeting is explicitly given the Great Shot Gordo award. — Bill Simmons
  • The rooftop garden’s physical setting and added visual effects are praised as unusually convincing for this film. — Bill Simmons
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48:14

Recasting Couch

Adebisi’s actor as Moyez

Adebisi’s actor as Moyez

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  • The actor known as Adebisi is proposed for the voodoo practitioner instead of Delroy Lindo; Lindo’s improvised-sounding accent is criticized, and the alternative performer is called underused. — Bill Simmons
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49:01

What’s Aged the Best?

Charlize Theron’s arrival as a star (performance disputed); the contrast with Connie Nielsen

Charlize Theron’s arrival as a star (performance disputed); the contrast with Connie Nielsen

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  • Theron’s youth and rapid emergence in the mid-1990s are praised.
  • The acting divides the panel: one finds Charlize’s dialed-up performance bad, while another says she must be annoying enough for Kevin to prefer his boss’s company. — Chris Ryan
  • Nielsen’s seductive New York sophistication contrasts with Mary Ann’s hometown beauty and domestic expectations; her progressive unraveling is praised. — Van Lathan
  • Another response finds the sustained distress grating and underdeveloped; others defend the performance as a deliberately difficult character, pitched against Milton’s equally intense seduction.
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57:24

What’s Aged the Best?

New York cameos and real estate; face-switch sex scene; research carts; Department of Justice investigations

New York cameos and real estate; face-switch sex scene; research carts; Department of Justice investigations

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  • Don King embracing a friendship with the devil and the New York cameos are praised, along with the offices and apartments. — Bill Simmons
  • The face-switch sex scene is praised as an effective device. — Bill Simmons
  • The arrival of carts full of research books is a favorite courtroom trope, though Kevin lacks the usual legal sidekicks.
  • Department of Justice investigations and paper-trading details evoke 1990s New York. — Van Lathan
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57:44

The Danny McBride Award for Playing Yourself

Al D’Amato

Al D’Amato

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  • D’Amato is preferred to Don King for enthusiastically playing himself. — Bill Simmons
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59:07

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

“Paint It Black”

“Paint It Black”

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  • The ending’s Paint It Black is the clear needle drop, with little other music in the movie. — Bill Simmons
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59:20

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Voodoo meat; Mary Ann’s fried chicken

Voodoo meat; Mary Ann’s fried chicken

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  • The ritual meat is proposed as frightening food; another participant rejects that response based on familiarity with Louisiana practices. Gainesville shots are briefly offered.
  • Mary Ann eating what appears to be Popeyes chicken while painting is enthusiastically endorsed. — Van Lathan
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1:00:25

The Sean Penn “I Brought My Own Pack” Award for Excellence in On-Screen Smoking

Keanu Reeves

Keanu Reeves

The panel proposes a new category here.

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  • A new Jimmy Conway Award for best or worst smoking is proposed; Reeves appears to smoke awkwardly by character choice despite being a smoker in real life. — Bill Simmons
  • Kevin’s lapse after quitting is offered as an explanation, but the performance is still criticized; Pacino handles cigarettes as naturally as an extra finger. — Bill Simmons
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1:01:19

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The rooftop water garden

The rooftop water garden

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  • Many New York locations could qualify; Trump’s apartment is suggested before the rooftop is called the coolest. — Bill Simmons
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1:01:37

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Empty Fifth Avenue

Empty Fifth Avenue

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  • The deserted street shot is a second Great Shot Gordo preference, with curiosity about how it was filmed.
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1:01:46

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Supernatural visual effects; accents

Supernatural visual effects; accents

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  • Demon transformations look dated, although the institution scene remains effective; ambiguity might have worked better.
  • The overt demons change the nature of the film; one participant would classify dated effects as Aged Worst rather than Weak Link because the problem is repairable. — Van Lathan
  • Delroy Lindo’s and Reeves’s accents become alternative weaknesses, with Reeves’s accent fluctuating between scenes and exaggerating Gainesville speech.
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1:03:23

What’s Aged the Worst?

Accents; Cullen’s sexual alibi; newspaper revelations; Eddie Barzoon’s jogging; Pacino’s teeth; deleted party scene; ...

Accents; Cullen’s sexual alibi; newspaper revelations; Eddie Barzoon’s jogging; Pacino’s teeth; deleted party scene; Jeffrey Jones

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  • The accents fluctuate and overstate Southern speech.
  • Cullen’s claim of three and a half hours of sex is mocked as implausible.
  • Learning bad news from a morning newspaper headline is a vanished movie convention. — Bill Simmons
  • Barzoon’s jogging and Pacino’s conspicuous teeth are criticized; whether the teeth are a character choice remains unresolved.
  • A deleted party threesome scene could have made Mary Ann’s suspicions more understandable and should have remained. — Bill Simmons
  • Seeing Jeffrey Jones now prompts thoughts of his reported criminal history rather than the movie. — Bill Simmons
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1:08:13

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

Milton and Mary Ann at the party; painting conversation

Milton and Mary Ann at the party; painting conversation

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  • The prolonged party conversation is a suggested break. — Bill Simmons
  • The painting conversation is another suggestion, specifically excluding the chicken eating; a counterargument reads the green paint as significant color symbolism. — Chris Ryan
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1:09:08

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

The Devil’s Advocate; Paradise Lost; The Last Defense

The Devil’s Advocate; Paradise Lost; The Last Defense

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  • The existing title is initially retained, but spoiler-concealing alternatives include Paradise Lost and The Last Defense. — Chris Ryan
  • A joking streaming-film title announces that the protagonist’s father is the devil.
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1:09:44

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“Vanity. Definitely my favorite sin.”; “I’m the hand up Mona Lisa’s skirt.”; “He’s an absentee landlord.”

“Vanity. Definitely my favorite sin.”; “I’m the hand up Mona Lisa’s skirt.”; “He’s an absentee landlord.”

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  • Several quotes compete, including the final speech’s laughter and absentee-landlord lines; the speech as a whole is favored. — Bill Simmons
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1:11:26

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Keanu Reeves as the greatest bad actor of the last 35 years

Keanu Reeves as the greatest bad actor of the last 35 years

In the discussion (4)
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  • Reeves is called a beloved major star with limited acting and accent skills, who found an ideal stripped-down style in John Wick. — Bill Simmons
  • His blankness is defended as making extraordinary events believable in The Matrix and this film. — Van Lathan
  • His effectiveness is said to depend on the role, with action and Californian characters working better than Shakespeare, scientists or other stretches. — Chris Ryan
  • His distinct star quality is defended as valuable even without prestige-acting range. — Bill Simmons
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1:15:17

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Kevin Lomax

Kevin Lomax

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  • His legal skill is questioned because supernatural help repeatedly benefits him; the opening trial is offered in defense, and the ending may deliberately diminish his specialness.
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1:16:40

Casting What-Ifs

Joel Schumacher and Brad Pitt; repeated Pacino refusals; Reeves’s pay cut; Theron’s hesitation

Joel Schumacher and Brad Pitt; repeated Pacino refusals; Reeves’s pay cut; Theron’s hesitation

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  • A proposed 1994 version with Schumacher and Pitt would have modeled the subway on Dante’s circles of hell; it reportedly collapsed without an actor for Satan. — Bill Simmons
  • Pacino reportedly rejected the project five times, Reeves accepted reduced pay to secure him, and Theron hesitated about nudity. — Bill Simmons
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1:16:58

Recasting Couch

Robert Ridgely, Philip Baker Hall or William H. Macy as Barzoon; Tom Skerritt as Cullen; Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp as ...

Robert Ridgely, Philip Baker Hall or William H. Macy as Barzoon; Tom Skerritt as Cullen; Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp as Lomax; Jack Nicholson as Milton

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  • Replacements for Jones include Ridgely, Hall and Macy; Hall is questioned as insufficiently plausible as a jogger.
  • Skerritt is proposed for Cullen, and Pitt is recalled as a stronger lead.
  • Pitt and Depp are suggested as actors who could have elevated the lead role. — Bill Simmons
  • Redford is rejected as Milton, while Nicholson is considered able to deliver the speeches.
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1:17:42

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Charlize Theron

Charlize Theron

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1:18:56

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Chris Bauer

Chris Bauer

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  • Jeffrey Jones, Paul Benedict and the Law & Order: SVU actor are considered; Jones’s recognizability is disputed. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel agrees on the actor nicknamed Machine; the subway antagonist is an additional unresolved familiar face.
  • Bauer’s television and late-1990s credits are reviewed; his supposed High Fidelity appearance is questioned as potentially deleted. — Bill Simmons
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1:20:27

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Delroy Lindo

Delroy Lindo

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  • Machine, Giselle and Judith Ivey are alternatives; the mother character is disliked, and the final selection is Lindo.
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1:22:31

Half-Assed Internet Research

Sculpture lawsuit; rooftop construction; real boxing match; Connie Nielsen’s arrival; cleared street; composite makeup

Sculpture lawsuit; rooftop construction; real boxing match; Connie Nielsen’s arrival; cleared street; composite makeup

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  • A sculpture copyright dispute reportedly required edits in later releases; the rooftop was on the 50th floor with the stage eight feet from the edge. — Bill Simmons
  • The film used a real October 1996 Roy Jones Jr. fight; Kevin’s support for the opponent is criticized as boxing ignorance. — Van Lathan
  • Nielsen reportedly had been in America a month before casting; the empty-street shot used a Sunday 7:30 a.m. closure of 57th Street.
  • The Lucifer transformation reportedly combined Reeves and Pacino life masks, including a Godfather-era mask, with Rick Baker involved. — Bill Simmons
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1:24:38

Apex Mountain

Satan on film; Roy Jones Jr.; Cullen’s sexual alibi; Charlize Theron eating chicken

Satan on film; Roy Jones Jr.; Cullen’s sexual alibi; Charlize Theron eating chicken

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  • No actor is considered at career Apex; Pacino’s Satan is favored over other screen devils.
  • Scary rooftop scenes are considered without a firm affirmative answer; Roy Jones Jr. is endorsed at his peak.
  • Roy Jones Jr.’s song is raised as a competing memory; the senator and Don King are not endorsed.
  • Joking affirmative subjects are the murder-time sexual alibi and Theron eating fried chicken. — Bill Simmons
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1:26:22

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Barzoon

Barzoon

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  • Fan of Man is proposed, then Barzoon is declared the winner. — Bill Simmons
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1:26:38

Picking Nits

Rushed trials; Kevin’s marriage; his mother’s secrecy; “Dad”; Larry’s hygiene; the ending

Rushed trials; Kevin’s marriage; his mother’s secrecy; “Dad”; Larry’s hygiene; the ending

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  • Trials move too quickly, recesses are casually granted, and surprise evidence is admitted without adequate review; Kevin is also a poor husband.
  • The mother’s knowledge of Milton, lack of warning and recognition after decades raise questions; Kevin suddenly calling Milton Dad feels odd.
  • The dreamlike reset ending is challenged, while Satan’s continual testing is offered as an explanation. — Chris Ryan
  • Larry does not wash his hands in either version of the bathroom scene. — Chris Ryan
  • One interpretation sees a time loop: rejecting the bargain sends Kevin back for another test, while accepting would let events continue. — Van Lathan
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1:31:13

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Accepting Satan’s offer after Mary Ann’s death

Accepting Satan’s offer after Mary Ann’s death

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  • The panel jokingly considers whether power and a relationship with Kevin’s half-sister beat returning to Gainesville, then imagines a child-raising sequel.
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1:33:12

Picking Nits

The prosecutor’s discarded glasses

The prosecutor’s discarded glasses

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  • The prosecutor oddly throws his glasses onto Kevin’s table after questioning the child. — Chris Ryan
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1:33:12

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Prestige television; prequel; all-Black gender-flipped remake

Prestige television; prequel; all-Black gender-flipped remake

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  • A television version is obvious but might depend on casting and network; a reported 2014 Judgment Day prequel adaptation failed to launch at NBC.
  • Samuel L. Jackson is proposed as Milton, followed by enthusiasm for Viola Davis as a female devil. — Van Lathan
  • Zazie Beetz or Tessa Thompson are proposed before the idea expands to a full gender flip.
  • Jay Ellis is imagined in the spouse role, with concern about audience response to him obstructing a woman’s career; Michael B. Jordan and Jayson Tatum are floated as seductive alternatives. — Van Lathan
  • Sam Jackson remains appealing, while Viola could have fun giving the fan-of-man monologue.
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1:37:55

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins

Wayne Jenkins

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  • Jackson is acknowledged, then an imagined Wayne Jenkins reacts to Kevin’s identity and incestuous prospect; the running joke declares him the winner.
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1:38:34

Just One Oscar

Al Pacino; screenplay

Al Pacino; screenplay

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  • Pacino is proposed, but the script receives support; direction is considered well paced without earning an Oscar choice.
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1:39:14

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Trump’s alternate acting career; Gator fans; the Antichrist’s lineage; Pacino’s apparent aging

Trump’s alternate acting career; Gator fans; the Antichrist’s lineage; Pacino’s apparent aging

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  • Casting Trump as Cullen prompts speculation about whether an acting career would change his later political trajectory.
  • The film’s implications for Florida Gator fans are jokingly questioned.
  • The hosts debate whether the Antichrist requires incest, specific parentage or markings, compare other films and imagine a reluctant Antichrist comedy.
  • Pacino appears much older than in Heat despite a two-year gap; smoking, cinematography and styling are possible explanations. — Bill Simmons
  • Oversized suits are criticized, with debate about Michael Jordan’s influence on mid-1990s fashion. — Bill Simmons
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1:44:45

Best Double Feature

…And Justice for All; Bedazzled
The Devil’s Advocate
…And Justice for All
Bedazzled
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1:45:19

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Renewed temptation through publicity; Satan turns to Steve Spurrier

Renewed temptation through publicity; Satan turns to Steve Spurrier

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  • Larry’s proposed exposé might preserve Kevin’s legal career while exploiting vanity again, although the trial and disciplinary consequences remain unclear.
  • A joke imagines Satan abandoning Kevin for football coach Steve Spurrier, with a response that he already has him.
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1:46:12

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Subway box cutter; Roy Jones Jr. tickets; fallen-angels sculpture

Subway box cutter; Roy Jones Jr. tickets; fallen-angels sculpture

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  • The subway weapon, fight tickets and controversial sculpture are distinct choices.
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1:46:25

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Take responsibility for free choices; pay attention to your spouse

Take responsibility for free choices; pay attention to your spouse

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  • Temptation does not remove personal responsibility.
  • Keeping one’s spouse happy becomes a second lesson and an incest joke. — Bill Simmons
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1:46:58

Who Won the Movie?

Al Pacino

Al Pacino

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  • Three consecutive final choices name Pacino, with a joke excluding his teeth. — Bill Simmons
Podcast choices
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Al Pacino
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Al Pacino
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1:47:08

Producer review

Unfinished viewing; not a favorite; avoids Satan films

Unfinished viewing; not a favorite; avoids Satan films

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  • The addressed producer says an hour remains, the film is not a favorite, he watches few movies and does not enjoy Satan material.
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More from the conversation

The hosts place the film between Heat and later Pacino roles, and discuss Reeves declining Speed 2 after a run of poorly received projects.
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The film’s excess, broad entertainment appeal and provocative religious monologues are praised; a teenage viewing prompted questions about faith.
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The free-will theme is distinguished from being forced into evil: Kevin repeatedly chooses temptation even when Milton offers an alternative.
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Pacino’s unpredictable emphases and apparently exuberant performance are contrasted with his quiet, seductive confidence opposite Mary Ann.
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The hosts report development from Andrew Neiderman’s novel and renewed legal-film interest after the O. J. Simpson trial.
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The Cullen character is compared with Donald Trump; the hosts discuss filming in Trump’s apartment and quote reported Gilroy and Hackford anecdotes about the location.
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Milton, Dante and Faust provide literary parallels to a film that mixes serious questions about evil and capitalism with cartoonish behavior.
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The hosts compare the advertised devil reveal with Primal Fear and Rosemary’s Baby; the subway scene is proposed as the point at which an uninformed viewer would understand Milton.
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Discussion contrasts 1970s Satan films with this contemporary version, and explores the appeal of money, sex and New York to a young viewer from the South.
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The hosts recount formative fear from The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, The Omen, Rosemary’s Baby, The Exorcist, Ghost and Drag Me to Hell.
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Reported box-office figures are $57 million budget and $153 million gross; a career ranking places the film fifth for Pacino, behind Ocean’s Thirteen, The Godfather, Heat and Dick Tracy. This is a six-title discussion, not a Top Ten List.
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The hosts report that Theron declined Showgirls before accepting nudity in this film because of the opportunity to work with Pacino and Reeves.
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