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The lack of a sequel is an outrage

Bill Simmons: Tango and Cash and Roadhouse are said to have deserved sequels more than many films that got them; leaving LAPD to become detectives is an imagined continuation.

Bill Simmons: The stars’ other sequels make the omission baffling; different cities or countries are imagined for a follow-up.

The film

Tango & Cash (1989)

Directed by Andrei Konchalovsky · Comedy

104 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Sylvester Stallone Lieutenant Raymond (Ray) Tango
Kurt Russell Lieutenant Gabriel (Gabe) Cash
Jack Palance Yves Perret
Teri Hatcher Katherine (Kiki) Tango
Brion James Requin
James Hong Quan
Robert Z'Dar "Face"

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

20:47

Most Rewatchable Scene

Prison arrival and the prison escape are distinct favorites among opening, torture, nightclub and final-fight candida...

Prison arrival and the prison escape are distinct favorites among opening, torture, nightclub and final-fight candidates.

In the discussion (12)
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  • The opening highway truck stop is said to borrow from an unnamed Jackie Chan movie, with windshield action, a badge demand and cocaine revealed by gunfire. — Bill Simmons
  • The Rambo insult breaks the actor/character boundary; a personal first encounter is compared to Vanilla Ice in Ninja Turtles 2 and Boys to Men on Fresh Prince.
  • Jack Palance and his fellow villains drive by; the exaggerated villainy is compared with Brad Wesley in Roadhouse. — Bill Simmons
  • The billion-dollar operation’s dark television-filled lair, tiny henchman crew and convenient villain drive-by make little sense. — Bill Simmons
  • Desert scenery is compared with Another 48 Hours and Lethal Weapon. — Bill Simmons
  • The trial, laundry-chute trip and prison electrocution are nominated; the apparent pain and obligatory Stallone groan are enjoyed. — Bill Simmons
  • The prison escape includes apparent betrayal later revealed as help, a dead helper, a villain bossing guards, rain, a fan obstruction and an improbable cable jump. — Bill Simmons
  • Huge survivable drops and the lavish strip club with Hatcher drumming lead to Cash evading police in a wig. — Bill Simmons
  • The Cockney henchman is recalled from 48 Hours and its sequel; dangling him from a building and grenades echo other action films including Commando. — Bill Simmons
  • The simultaneous final fights are praised as a device also used in Double Impact. — Bill Simmons
  • The arrival at prison, with litter, fire and relentless jokes despite fear, is a favorite; another selection picks the escape. — Shea Serrano
  • Cash being shot, chasing the assailant and confronting him at the station is recalled as an omitted scene candidate. — Bill Simmons
32:19

What’s Aged the Best?

Kurt Russell’s action-star appeal leads a range of delighted responses to the absurdity.

Kurt Russell’s action-star appeal leads a range of delighted responses to the absurdity.

In the discussion (9)
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  • Joking and mutual mockery in frightening situations are enjoyed and believed. — Bill Simmons
  • The badge demand and Jack Palance’s later City Slickers Oscar are highlights; his exaggerated performance seems far removed from Oscar prospects. — Bill Simmons
  • The villain’s elaborate non-killing plan, prison diversion and convoluted trap for Cash are mocked affectionately. — Bill Simmons
  • Fubar is speculatively said to originate with this movie and its 90s TNT exposure. — Bill Simmons
  • Young Terry Hatcher is praised as a breakout, with later Seinfeld and Lois & Clark visibility recalled. — Bill Simmons
  • Insult nicknames and repeated jokes about the men’s bodies form part of the appeal. — Bill Simmons
  • Owen and the prototype armored vehicle exemplify the gadget-guy and supercar era; Stripes is compared. — Bill Simmons
  • Kurt Russell is selected, with the missing modern Russell/Swayze type of witty, resilient action star contrasted with current actors. — Bill Simmons
  • Michael B. Jordan is urged toward a buddy-cop franchise; Without Remorse scenes show potential, while a vaguely recalled Jamie Fox film illustrates overly serious modern action. — Bill Simmons
42:00

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Yaz’s Don’t Go and the unidentified saxophone cue for Cash’s disguise are offered.

Yaz’s Don’t Go and the unidentified saxophone cue for Cash’s disguise are offered.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Don’t Go accompanies Hatcher’s club introduction; the band name is transcribed as yaz’s. — Bill Simmons
  • An unidentified saxophone cue accompanying the reveal of Cash dressed as a woman is offered with uncertainty about eligibility. — Shea Serrano
42:17

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The prison is liked, but the villain’s lair wins preference.

The prison is liked, but the villain’s lair wins preference.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The prison is a candidate, but the warehouse-like villain’s lair is preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Another response also moves from prison to lair, questioning whether the mouse maze was built just for the metaphor. — Shea Serrano
43:31

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The automatic belief that the two celebrated cops are corrupt strains the frame-up plot.

The automatic belief that the two celebrated cops are corrupt strains the frame-up plot.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The city accepts the frame-up with little defense of the previously successful cops and no effective legal help. — Bill Simmons
  • The trope is compared to repeatedly doubting the hero despite past success, as with Die Hard. — Bill Simmons
44:36

What’s Aged the Worst?

Fake newspapers and heroic celebrity cops lead, with violence editing and gratuitous nudity discussed.

Fake newspapers and heroic celebrity cops lead, with violence editing and gratuitous nudity discussed.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Fake LA Chronicle headlines are overused for transitions; an opposing joke wishes for one after every scene. — Bill Simmons
  • Tweets, websites or TikToks are imagined replacing newspaper exposition today. — Bill Simmons
  • Superstar heroic LAPD cops are located near the end of that era, with Colors as a comparison. — Bill Simmons
  • Research attributes quick violence cuts to avoiding an X rating after Cobra’s rating problems. — Bill Simmons
  • A pre-show producer observation calls the random nudity unnecessary; the garage and club are examples. — Bill Simmons
  • Rodney King footage and Derrick Gates context are linked to the early-1990s shift in depictions; hero cops and newspapers are the final top two. — Shea Serrano
48:20

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

Avoid leaving; at most, the brief gap after the escape

Avoid leaving; at most, the brief gap after the escape

In the discussion (1)
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  • A fast one-minute break after the escape and before Cash meets Hatcher is the reluctant option. — Bill Simmons
48:43

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No; Tango & Cash is perfect

No; Tango & Cash is perfect

In the discussion (1)
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  • Cash and Tango is considered only to reject its sound in favor of the original. — Bill Simmons
49:10

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

The American jerk-off insult is recalled.

The American jerk-off insult is recalled.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The remembered American jerk-off line is transcribed as wanting to get killed. A potentially lost negation remains unresolved in this machine transcript. — Bill Simmons
49:10

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

The lack of a sequel is an outrage; ranking it second among 1980s buddy-cop films is disputed

The lack of a sequel is an outrage; ranking it second among 1980s buddy-cop films is disputed

In the discussion (5)
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  • Tango and Cash and Roadhouse are said to have deserved sequels more than many films that got them; leaving LAPD to become detectives is an imagined continuation. — Bill Simmons
  • The stars’ other sequels make the omission baffling; different cities or countries are imagined for a follow-up. — Bill Simmons
  • A second take ranks it behind only Beverly Hills Cop, excluding 48 Hours because one lead is not a cop; Lethal Weapon, Turner & Hooch, Red Heat, Running Scared, Midnight Run, Dragnet and Alienation are discussed. — Shea Serrano
  • Lethal Weapon 2 is preferred to the first; Lethal Weapon 4 is praised separately. Another response includes 48 Hours and places Lethal Weapon 2 and Running Scared above this film. — Bill Simmons
  • Running Scared’s Key West trip and early Jimmy Smits are praised, and the absence of its sequel is also questioned. — Bill Simmons
53:15

Casting What-Ifs

Patrick Swayze reportedly left for Road House; both resulting casting choices are celebrated.

Patrick Swayze reportedly left for Road House; both resulting casting choices are celebrated.

In the discussion (4)
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  • The script was originally The Setup; Swayze reportedly dropped out to make Roadhouse and Russell replaced him. — Bill Simmons
  • Swayze here and Russell in Roadhouse is an appealing counterfactual, but both films are thought slightly worse in that swap, especially Russell’s leg-fighting credibility. — Bill Simmons
  • The swap is compared with Van Damme leaving Predator for Bloodsport; Face and the Cockney henchman reportedly gained scenes during rewrites at Stallone’s request. — Bill Simmons
  • Face’s broken-jaw recollection implies earlier clashes with Tango beyond the opening arrest; Stallone is reported to have fired the original cinematographer. — Shea Serrano
57:26

The Teddy KGB Award for the Actor in a Completely Different Movie

Jack Palance is assigned the award.

Jack Palance is assigned the award.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Palance is awarded the actor-doing-his-own-thing category alongside other acting awards. — Bill Simmons
57:46

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Jack Palance

Jack Palance

In the discussion (3)
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  • Palance is explicitly assigned the award before imitations of other overacting lines. — Bill Simmons
  • His uncompromising, bizarre villain remains full of riddles and jokes even facing death. — Bill Simmons
  • His inscrutable performance is compared with an implausible basketball claim on Kendrick Perkins’s Twitter feed. — Bill Simmons
59:18

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

The sweating Total Recall actor and the biker-clothes actor

The sweating Total Recall actor and the biker-clothes actor

In the discussion (3)
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  • Brion [transcribed Brian] James, James Hong and Clint Howard are said to have graduated from that-guy status; Face is recognized from Maniac Cop. — Bill Simmons
  • The sweating actor from Total Recall is one winner, with identity not supplied in this span. — Bill Simmons
  • Adolfo [transcribed Kignonis], the biker whose clothes are taken and a performer from the Breakin’ films, is the other choice. — Shea Serrano
1:00:15

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Teri Hatcher

Teri Hatcher

In the discussion (2)
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  • Face and Hatcher are candidates; Hatcher is praised for doing much with little. — Bill Simmons
  • Her sister/dancer/masseuse role has little backstory, but she is praised as doing real acting and the responses settle on her. — Bill Simmons
1:01:15

Recasting Couch

No — Sylvester Stallone

No — Sylvester Stallone

In the discussion (4)
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  • Producer Craig’s invited response finds Stallone’s comedy unsuccessful in contrast with his action roles; the other response strongly objects. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Stallone’s awkward comedy may itself be entertaining. Willis is proposed, countered as another Cash rather than a Tango, then defended as capable of a rich suited character. — Bill Simmons
  • Harrison Ford and Michael Douglas are proposed; Douglas lacks the desired physical size, while Ford has it.
  • Schwarzenegger’s comic ability is disputed, and the final preference keeps Stallone. — Bill Simmons
1:04:09

Half-Assed Internet Research

A sequel report, expanded henchmen, dangerous quarry shoot, heroin branding and a Danish joke are recounted.

A sequel report, expanded henchmen, dangerous quarry shoot, heroin branding and a Danish joke are recounted.

In the discussion (5)
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  • A September 2019 report says Stallone has a sequel story and has spoken with Russell; the hosts want Netflix to fund it. — Bill Simmons
  • Robert Zadar as Face and the Cockney henchman were given additional lines. — Bill Simmons
  • The quarry climax is reported filmed in Irwindale with at least eleven cameras and single-attempt dangerous stunts. — Bill Simmons
  • A dangerous Bronx heroin batch reportedly used the movie’s name, prompting police warnings. — Bill Simmons
  • The hate-Danish line is explained as a dig at Brigitte Nielsen during divorce. — Bill Simmons
1:07:04

Apex Mountain

Most actors are rejected; the LA Chronicle and Lethal Weapon imitations are endorsed.

Most actors are rejected; the LA Chronicle and Lethal Weapon imitations are endorsed.

In the discussion (7)
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  • Stallone is rejected; Russell’s influence is placed later, around Tombstone and the Escape from LA sequel. — Bill Simmons
  • No major actor seems at an apex: Face is countered with Maniac Cop and the henchman actor with 48 Hours. The film ranks highly as unintentional-comedy buddy-cop entertainment. — Bill Simmons
  • The fictional Los Angeles Chronicle is endorsed for its many front pages. — Bill Simmons
  • Lockup wins among Stallone prison films, with its muddy football game praised. — Bill Simmons
  • The grunts, hanging, fighting and football power-I play are praised, with Stallone a believable athlete. — Bill Simmons
  • Lethal Weapon rip-offs are endorsed; actor/character crossover moments are proposed with the overall apex unresolved. — Bill Simmons
  • Last Action Hero’s Stallone-as-Terminator poster is a comparison, but the Rambo joke remains a strong candidate. — Bill Simmons
1:10:19

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Tango is preferred to Ray Tango and Tango and Cash.

Tango is preferred to Ray Tango and Tango and Cash.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Of three imagined Kentucky Derby names, Tango is selected. — Bill Simmons
  • Longer Italian surnames are jokingly imagined behind the shortened Tango name. — Bill Simmons
1:11:23

Picking Nits

The plea, prison transfer, survival, absent surveillance and quarry office make little sense.

The plea, prison transfer, survival, absent surveillance and quarry office make little sense.

In the discussion (3)
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  • A no-contest murder plea and eighteen-month sentence threaten police careers; no one notices or investigates the maximum-security transfer. — Bill Simmons
  • The cops should die quickly in prison, yet the escaped men’s only close relative is not watched; Hatcher’s non-stripping performance is also questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • The quarry office’s remote commute is mocked; Taken and Reacher illustrate quarries as useful action locations. — Bill Simmons
1:13:51

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Prefer the original or a sequel, with an eight-episode Michael Mann version entertained.

Prefer the original or a sequel, with an eight-episode Michael Mann version entertained.

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  • The film initially seems impossible to remake or convert to prestige TV; Stallone’s sequel is the preferred alternative. — Bill Simmons
  • Michael Mann is imagined making eight Heat-style episodes, with Tokyo Vice as precedent. — Shea Serrano
  • Heat 2 is praised as a novel beginning after the film; delayed viewing of Heat and affection for the film transcribed Dana Thieves are recalled. — Shea Serrano
1:15:59

Is This Movie Better With…?

Young Steve Buscemi could enhance the film.

Young Steve Buscemi could enhance the film.

In the discussion (1)
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1:16:45

Just One Oscar

Best director, for the joke of three directors accepting together.

Best director, for the joke of three directors accepting together.

In the discussion (1)
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  • No genuine Oscar case is made; three directors sharing an acceptance speech is the amusing choice. — Bill Simmons
1:17:01

Probably Unanswerable Questions

FUBAR’s origin and Cash’s relationship with Kiki are revisited.

FUBAR’s origin and Cash’s relationship with Kiki are revisited.

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  • The hosts repeat the speculative claim that the film invented FUBAR. — Bill Simmons
  • A Cash/Kiki marriage could start a sequel, with her kidnapping and Tango’s disapproval drawing the pair together. — Bill Simmons
1:17:33

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Unresolved; the evidence clearing them is weak

Unresolved; the evidence clearing them is weak

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  • The hosts ask whether the charges are dropped and the men simply return to the office. — Shea Serrano
  • The audio forger was contacted, but the escape and many killings leave few witnesses or clear proof of innocence; a sequel could address this. — Bill Simmons
1:18:33

Best Double Feature

Tango and Cash followed by Lock Up.
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  • Lockup continues 1989 Stallone-in-prison viewing; watching it second allows an imagined darker continuation in which Tango remains imprisoned. — Bill Simmons
1:18:50

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The exploding guard-dog prototype and the escape belts.

The exploding guard-dog prototype and the escape belts.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Owen’s guard-dog prototype with a gun is one selection. — Shea Serrano
  • The two escape belts are another choice, imagined displayed in an office. — Bill Simmons
1:19:08

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

A movie claim about hanging from power lines is jokingly treated as a lesson.

A movie claim about hanging from power lines is jokingly treated as a lesson.

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  • After struggling for a lesson, the hosts repeat the movie’s claim about avoiding electrocution when not grounded and joke about trying it; this is a transcript observation, not verified electrical guidance. — Shea Serrano
1:20:03

Who Won the Movie?

Kurt Russell

Kurt Russell

In the discussion (2)
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Podcast choices
Speaker not identified
Kurt Russell
Speaker not identified
Kurt Russell
1:20:25

Producer review

Craig enjoys the distinct simplicity, cheese and stars of 1980s action films.

Craig enjoys the distinct simplicity, cheese and stars of 1980s action films.

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  • The addressed response finds older action films refreshing and treats Lethal Weapon as a favorite, unlike The Grey Man. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The discussion contrasts distinctive older stars with interchangeable modern casting and films driven by intellectual property.

More from the conversation

The 251st Rewatchables film is introduced after a 250-movie retrospective; the possibility of reaching 500 and past in-person taping are recalled.
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The film is described as the final theatrical release of the 1980s and a lovable mixture of action tropes: Lethal Weapon, Wall Street and 48 Hours comparisons frame the two characters and their improbable imprisonment.
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The opening single-handed billion-dollar cocaine bust is treated as absurd; an inflation calculation and cocaine-weight comparison are recited as discussion claims, not verified data.
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Famous cops, Harold Faltermeyer’s recycled-seeming synth style and almost-but-not-quite self-awareness evoke 1989 action movies including Road House, Lethal Weapon 2 and Kickboxer.
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Stallone’s career from Rocky IV and Rambo II through Cobra, Over the Top, Rambo III, Lock Up, Rocky V, Oscar and Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot is discussed; Cliffhanger is the recovery, and this film’s comic direction is contrasted with earlier serious roles.
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A regular moviegoer recalls seeing Stallone films, a disappointing Rocky V trip and renewed enthusiasm for Cliffhanger, Demolition Man, Daylight and Assassins; the reported sense of a later career slump is disputed.
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Kurt Russell’s run through The Best of Times, Big Trouble in Little China, Overboard and Tequila Sunrise leads to praise for this sarcastic cop role; he is imagined fitting Die Hard or Lethal Weapon, and Tombstone illustrates range.
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A remembered Kurt Russell podcast visit featured a leather jacket, cigarettes and coffee, likened to Snake Plissken.
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The director’s firing, replacement directors, production overruns and conflicting serious-versus-campy aims are reported; the rush to release is described as wet prints. The stated $54 million final budget is contrasted with $35 million planned and $120.4 million gross.
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A Jalen Rose keep-getting-them-checks award is introduced just for fun and given to Jack Palance; this remains a local category proposal, not a silently established registry award.
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Denzel Washington in The Equalizer and Brad Pitt in Bullet Train are remaining star-led examples; Bullet Train is recommended as an actionier Knives Out on a train.
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The closing handclasp/high-five freeze moment is recalled after being omitted from earlier discussion.
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