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Best twist of the 1980s–1990s

Young is a singular screen presence whose unrealized career possibilities exceed a routine short run of stardom.

Killing Susan forty-five minutes in is an effective surprise, although contemporary reviews often spoiled it.

Do not have a mistress

Do not have a mistress; a joking additional warning is to distrust possible Russian spies.

The film

No Way Out (1987)

Directed by Roger Donaldson · Crime

114 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits ·

Kevin Costner Tom Farrell
Gene Hackman David Brice
Sean Young Susan Atwell
Will Patton Scott Pritchard
Howard Duff Senator Duvall
George Dzundza Sam Hesselman
Jason Bernard Major Donovan
Iman Nina Beka

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

3:14

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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16:59

What’s Aged the Best?

The twist; photograph countdown; chemistry; political rivalry; score; getaway; collaborators; Scott

The twist; photograph countdown; chemistry; political rivalry; score; getaway; collaborators; Scott

In the discussion (13)
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  • A powerful man maintaining a mistress in a Virginia townhouse is praised as an effective movie premise, with joking disagreement about calling it aged best.
  • Opening on an intense interrogation before jumping six months backward works here, despite objections that television has overused the device.
  • The landlord’s revelation as Tom’s handler supplies a second twist.
  • The gradually resolving photograph serves as an effective countdown. — Chris Ryan
  • Costner and Young’s chemistry remains exceptionally strong. — Chris Ryan
  • The destructive rivalry between Congress and the executive branch still resonates. — Bill Simmons
  • Fred Dalton Thompson remains convincing as a military-industrial figure.
  • The ominous Washington synthesizer score works well. — Bill Simmons
  • Paying extra for an otherwise unavailable boat enables the Chesapeake getaway.
  • Costner’s loyalty to collaborators carries supporting performers into later films.
  • Scott’s patronizing demands for moral courage and calm remain entertaining.
  • The old-college-friends connection between Tom and Scott is memorable.
  • The henchmen’s awkward pursuit is funny enough to count as both a strength and a weakness. — Bill Simmons
27:02

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Best twist of the 1980s–1990s; Russian spies are missed; Susan’s death timing; Patton as Joker

Best twist of the 1980s–1990s; Russian spies are missed; Susan’s death timing; Patton as Joker

In the discussion (6)
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  • Young is a singular screen presence whose unrealized career possibilities exceed a routine short run of stardom.
  • Killing Susan forty-five minutes in is an effective surprise, although contemporary reviews often spoiled it.
  • Tom might have saved Susan by leaving through the front door and forcing a confrontation with Brice. — Chris Ryan
  • This is proposed as the best twist of the 1980s and 1990s, ahead of The Sixth Sense, with later identity-reversal thrillers owing it a debt. — Sean Fennessey
  • Old-fashioned Russian spies are missed as clear, readily understood movie antagonists. — Bill Simmons
  • Will Patton is imagined as an excellent Joker.
32:05

Half-Assed Internet Research

Source adaptations; budget and gross; Leachman account; nude-scene and stunt anecdotes; locations

Source adaptations; budget and gross; Leachman account; nude-scene and stunt anecdotes; locations

In the discussion (7)
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  • A quoted Leachman autobiography passage recounts a one-night encounter with Hackman while both were filming in San Francisco. — Bill Simmons
  • The story derives from Kenneth Fearing’s 1946 novel The Big Clock, previously adapted in 1948 and as Police Python 357 in 1976. — Bill Simmons
  • The stated budget is $15 million and the gross $35.5 million; cable and HBO expanded its audience. — Sean Fennessey
  • Young’s account describes helping an uncomfortable Costner through their nude scene. — Bill Simmons
  • The limousine sequence is described as partly improvised.
  • Costner reportedly rolled over a moving car’s hood during a chase and was reprimanded. — Bill Simmons
  • Susan’s house is identified at Queen and Union Streets in Alexandria. — Bill Simmons
43:32

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bryce betrays Scott in the office; the final twenty minutes

Bryce betrays Scott in the office; the final twenty minutes

In the discussion (14)
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  • The opening Washington party efficiently introduces Tom, Susan and Scott through flirtation and social maneuvering. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom’s Stoli order supplies a small clue, while Susan’s conspicuously long cigarette adds to their flirtation. — Bill Simmons
  • The limousine ride begins with Susan asking the driver to show them the monuments. — Bill Simmons
  • Susan commandeers Nina’s apartment and bed, offering her friend the limousine, fur coat and food. — Chris Ryan
  • Tom and Susan flirt while preparing for their second party. — Bill Simmons
  • The Manila strip-club sequence, including Wild Thing and a phone torn from the wall, is singled out enthusiastically.
  • Brice’s confrontation with Susan turns into her fatal fall. — Bill Simmons
  • Brice brings Scott the news that he has killed Susan, and Scott immediately constructs a plan.
  • Tom’s reaction to learning Susan is dead plays both as grief and, on rewatch, panic about his own exposure.
  • During the visit to Nina, Tom silently implores her not to reveal their connection, then prepares to use a vase against Scott. — Bill Simmons
  • The Washington car and running chase features impressive physical work from Costner. — Bill Simmons
  • The final pursuit, stairwell fight and confrontation in Brice’s office culminate in Brice betraying Scott. — Bill Simmons
  • The final revelation reframes Tom’s relationship with Susan as part of his assignment.
  • The office confrontation is the favored specific scene; another choice is the final twenty minutes, encompassing the Pentagon hunt and revelation.
44:17

Tom Sizemore Action Is the Juice Award for Best Toe-to-Toe Moment

Will Patton

Will Patton

In the discussion (1)
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  • Will Patton’s Scott holds his own against the stars and intensifies the film through constant interference and invasive proximity. — Chris Ryan
51:22

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Scott’s relationships; Susan and Tom’s conversations; Susan’s work and car

Scott’s relationships; Susan and Tom’s conversations; Susan’s work and car

In the discussion (4)
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  • Brice knows Susan has another lover but does not recognize Tom in the darkness outside her apartment.
  • Scott’s relationships with Tom and Brice invite speculation; Brice knowingly exploits Scott’s infatuation.
  • What Susan and Tom discuss when they are not having sex remains unclear.
  • Whether Brice bought Susan’s car and what she does for work remain speculative.
51:52

Picking Nits

Conspicuous behavior; death mechanics; Polaroid continuity; framing plan; extraction; news coverage

Conspicuous behavior; death mechanics; Polaroid continuity; framing plan; extraction; news coverage

In the discussion (10)
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  • Tom gains little by lingering outside Susan’s apartment where Brice might see him. — Chris Ryan
  • Susan’s instant death from the short fall onto a coffee table seems doubtful. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom’s arm position in the Polaroid differs from the moment the picture is taken. — Bill Simmons
  • Scott invents the Yuri framing plan implausibly quickly. — Bill Simmons
  • Nina’s refusal to expose Tom is questioned, then defended as loyalty to Susan, perhaps supported by omitted scenes.
  • The Russians’ failure to extract Tom once Susan dies leaves his compromised position unexplained.
  • Tom leaves incriminating bodily evidence through careless sexual conduct. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom eating something from the windshield is considered strange; whether it is a bug or a berry is disputed. — Bill Simmons
  • Local news reporting a Pentagon spy hunt seems implausible, although the concentration of reporters offers a defense. — Bill Simmons
  • Brice’s silent, accommodating wife leaves his domestic life underdeveloped. — Bill Simmons
55:26

The most 1987 thing

Credit-card records taking days

Credit-card records taking days

In the discussion (2)
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  • Credit-card records taking days is the favored dated detail. — Bill Simmons
  • Other candidates are the Polaroid plot, absent street surveillance, slow phone-record searches, printers and early forensic testing; Russian agents are added. — Bill Simmons
56:33

Jamie Lee Curtis Unnecessary Nudity Award

Sean Young

Sean Young

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1:02:11

What’s Aged the Worst?

Assassins; limo sex; spy conventions; underused Duff; audition allegation; detours; stereotypes; haircuts

Assassins; limo sex; spy conventions; underused Duff; audition allegation; detours; stereotypes; haircuts

In the discussion (10)
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  • The supposedly elite assassins run awkwardly and look insufficiently formidable. — Bill Simmons
  • The limousine sex scene has corny music and unclear positioning. — Bill Simmons
  • The long-term embedded Russian-spy model feels dated relative to modern technological espionage, although Russian spying itself remains active. — Bill Simmons
  • Howard Duff is underused in a role lasting roughly a scene and a half.
  • Young’s reported account of Donaldson requiring her to expose herself at an audition is condemned. — Bill Simmons
  • The extended overseas rescue and Manila detour seems excessive for its narrative purpose, despite a defense of establishing Tom’s hero status. — Bill Simmons
  • The phantom-submarine subplot receives too little explanation for its importance. — Chris Ryan
  • Costner listing Russian authors is proposed as a weakness, with an immediate objection.
  • Scott participates in an outdated stereotype of the hysterical queer villain, even though the performance remains entertaining. — Bill Simmons
  • The supposedly sexy film has awkward haircuts for Susan, Tom, Scott and party guests.
1:03:14

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Pentagon checkerboard chase; nighttime focus shift; party triangulation

Pentagon checkerboard chase; nighttime focus shift; party triangulation

In the discussion (3)
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  • Costner running along the Pentagon’s checkerboard hallway is a striking image.
  • The nighttime focus shift between Hackman and Costner is effective. — Sean Fennessey
  • Party photography triangulates Susan, Brice and Tom, then reveals Brice’s mounting anxiety. — Sean Fennessey
1:03:47

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Opening Washington views; Chesapeake Bay

Opening Washington views; Chesapeake Bay

In the discussion (1)
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  • The opening Washington views and Chesapeake Bay getaway are the location choices. — Bill Simmons
1:03:47

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

No Way Out; party cover of Do Ya Think I’m Sexy?

No Way Out; party cover of Do Ya Think I’m Sexy?

In the discussion (2)
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  • The cheesy party cover of Do Ya Think I’m Sexy? is singled out. — Bill Simmons
  • The title song No Way Out is selected despite being considered bad. — Chris Ryan
1:04:03

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Spilled coffee; straight Stoli

Spilled coffee; straight Stoli

In the discussion (1)
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  • Coffee spilled on trousers works as a plot device; Tom’s straight Stoli order is another choice. — Chris Ryan
1:04:18

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The assassins; Scott’s gym murder

The assassins; Scott’s gym murder

In the discussion (2)
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  • The assassins seem too unimpressive for Scott’s operation; more physically imposing performers are imagined. — Chris Ryan
  • Scott shooting the wheelchair user in the Pentagon gym feels implausibly conspicuous; a staged accident or use of henchmen is suggested instead.
1:06:00

Mallory Rubin Award: Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

Divided: sufficiently steamy versus corny music and confusing logistics

Divided: sufficiently steamy versus corny music and confusing logistics

In the discussion (1)
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  • One response considers the limousine sex scene sufficiently steamy, while another objects to its music and confusing physical logistics. — Bill Simmons
1:12:44

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Will Patton

Will Patton

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  • Will Patton is the emphatic choice, with a suggestion to add Scott Pritchard to the award’s name.
1:15:41

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

Men of Power

Men of Power

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  • Men of Power is suggested and approved as an alternative title. — Bill Simmons
1:16:00

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“You have no idea what men with power can do.”

“You have no idea what men with power can do.”

In the discussion (1)
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  • “You have no idea what men with power can do.” — Bill Simmons
1:21:04

Casting What-Ifs

Pfeiffer; uncertain Gibson/Swayze reports; Newman/Peck; Scott alternatives

Pfeiffer; uncertain Gibson/Swayze reports; Newman/Peck; Scott alternatives

In the discussion (4)
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1:23:38

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

The boat-rental operator

The boat-rental operator

In the discussion (1)
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1:24:02

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Iman

Iman

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1:25:01

Recasting Couch

No changes

No changes

In the discussion (1)
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  • No casting or directing changes are desired. — Bill Simmons
1:25:01

What Would Tony Romo’s Director’s Commentary for This Movie Sound Like?

Chris Collinsworth; Tony Romo; Bill Raftery; Doris Burke

Chris Collinsworth; Tony Romo; Bill Raftery; Doris Burke

In the discussion (2)
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  • Chris Collinsworth and Tony Romo are imagined narrating the flirtation and twist; Bill Raftery is also proposed.
  • Doris Burke is added as another imagined commentator.
1:27:46

Apex Mountain

Washington film noir; pirate-uniformed bellboy witnesses

Washington film noir; pirate-uniformed bellboy witnesses

In the discussion (10)
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  • Costner is rejected; Young’s earlier Stripes/Blade Runner period is preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Movie mistresses is proposed but left unresolved after considering several alternatives. — Bill Simmons
  • Hackman is rejected. — Bill Simmons
  • Washington film noir receives agreement. — Bill Simmons
  • Russian-submarine material loses to The Hunt for Red October. — Bill Simmons
  • Dzundza murders is proposed against Basic Instinct without a settled choice. — Bill Simmons
  • The Omni Shoreham Hotel is nominated.
  • Patton’s peak is assigned to Remember the Titans.
  • Polaroids are rejected in favor of Memento. — Bill Simmons
  • Pirate-uniformed bellboys serving as federal espionage witnesses receives enthusiastic agreement. — Bill Simmons
1:32:15

Cruise or Hanks?

Tom Cruise

Tom Cruise

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  • Tom Cruise is the emphatic choice, especially for the chases, athletic stunts and physical intensity. — Bill Simmons
1:33:43

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

The Horny Hackmans; Men of Power

The Horny Hackmans; Men of Power

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  • The Horny Hackmans and Men of Power are suggested names. — Bill Simmons
1:38:07

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Prestige TV; Yuri sequel; Susan or college-years prequels

Prestige TV; Yuri sequel; Susan or college-years prequels

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  • A prestige television adaptation is considered promising. — Bill Simmons
  • A Yuri sequel could follow his American life after the Soviet collapse.
  • Susan: The Gumar Years and Scotty and Tommy’s college years are joking prequel ideas.
1:39:36

Is This Movie Better With…?

Hudson from Aliens

Hudson from Aliens

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  • Hudson from Aliens is added to the recurring hypothetical character menu.
1:40:03

Just One Oscar

Screenplay, tentatively

Screenplay, tentatively

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  • Screenplay is the tentative choice, with agreement that this is not an obvious Oscar film. — Bill Simmons
1:42:10

Best Double Feature

Revenge; American Flyers; The Big Clock; Presumed Innocent
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  • Revenge is suggested as a companion film.
  • American Flyers first, then No Way Out, would show Costner before and after stardom. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Big Clock offers the earlier adaptation, although it is considered less good and less twisty. — Sean Fennessey
  • Presumed Innocent supplies another sexy, star-driven mystery about power. — Sean Fennessey
1:43:03

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Bryce’s trial or political ruin; Tom stays in America

Bryce’s trial or political ruin; Tom stays in America

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  • Joking continuations put Yuri in Lithuanian basketball or reveal him as Field of Dreams’ Ray Kinsella. — Bill Simmons
  • Brice could face a major murder trial or at least political ruin because Tom supplies incriminating evidence. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom is expected to remain in America rather than return to Russia.
1:45:19

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The jewelry box

The jewelry box

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  • The jewelry box is the desired prop; Susan’s car is admired but cars are ineligible. — Bill Simmons
1:46:04

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Do not have a mistress

Do not have a mistress

In the discussion (1)
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  • Do not have a mistress; a joking additional warning is to distrust possible Russian spies.
1:46:28

Who Won the Movie?

Kevin Costner; additional choice: the twist, with Will Patton conditional on eligibility

Kevin Costner; additional choice: the twist, with Will Patton conditional on eligibility

In the discussion (2)
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  • Kevin Costner receives the main panel’s final agreement; Young is praised but rejected because she appears too briefly.
  • The additional first-time viewer chooses the twist if eligible, with Will Patton as the alternative if it is not.
Podcast choices
Speaker not identified
The twist

More from the conversation

No Way Out exemplifies the satisfying thriller that browsing streaming genre sections rarely finds.
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Its twist is placed alongside The Sixth Sense, Primal Fear and The Usual Suspects, without a formal ranking.
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A friend’s escalating texts about Costner, Young and the Russian revelation illustrate the first-viewing experience.
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Knowing the ending reveals clues such as ordering Stoli and becoming tense in Nina’s apartment, enhancing Costner’s subtle performance.
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The film layers espionage onto The Big Clock’s self-protective protagonist, making the falsely accused man guilty of a different secret.
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Its contained movie runtime handles the twist better than stretched-out prestige television.
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A daughter’s delayed recognition of the Yuri twist illustrates how the reveal lands.
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The opening interrogation and shoulder blood are easy to forget, allowing the ending to reframe the beginning.
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Sugar’s twist is criticized as an idea that might work in a short movie but arrives too late in a series.
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Dressed to Kill telegraphs its twist; Color of Night has an implausible one, while Basic Instinct avoids fully committing.
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Identity and Playing by Heart are recalled for connecting their characters through final revelations; Masquerade is praised as a modest noir.
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Washington establishing views and the surrounding suburbs, Chesapeake and Arlington give unusually rich local atmosphere.
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The chase and everyday places distinguish it from Washington films centered on presidents or the White House.
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The film is compared with1970s political thrillers, but characterized as lurid melodrama driven by plot rather than character.
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Desire drives the story more than the ideological paranoia of1970s thrillers; Cold War machinery also serves money and power.
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The late1980s political-thriller lull is contrasted with Dave, In the Line of Fire, The Pelican Brief and later West Wing-era views of Washington.
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Its eroticism and Navy-white imagery feel distinctly1980s, near the Gary Hart scandal’s change in public scrutiny.
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Mistresses housed separately create useful dramatic pressure; modern relationship arrangements would change that premise.
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Costner’s Untouchables, No Way Out and Bull Durham run within roughly ten months rapidly turned him into a major star.
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Austin Butler’s Elvis-to-Dune/Bikeriders/television trajectory is offered as a partial modern comparison.
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Russell Crowe offers a cross-genre comparison, but Costner’s romantic appeal is considered particularly distinctive.
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Historical comparisons combine Fonda, Lancaster, Stewart, Tracy and Redford rather than one obvious model.
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No Way Out and A Perfect World are valued for complicating Costner’s all-American image; more such films are wished for.
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Other directors often reveal a sexier, funnier, stranger Costner than his own stoic heroic roles.
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Costner’s chemistry with actresses makes the relationship with Young feel like a real couple, especially her playful mimicry.
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The discussion inventories prior Costner episodes and films still to cover, including Bull Durham and Tin Cup.
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American Flyers, Thirteen Days, A Perfect World and Tin Cup are discussed as possible episodes; Costner’s accents remain a weakness.
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Young’s early filmography includes Stripes, Blade Runner, Young Doctors in Love, Dune and Wall Street before No Way Out.
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Her subsequent career is discussed through alleged on-set conflicts, the Batman injury, Catwoman lobbying and hostile industry treatment; Weinstein’s reputation changes how the history is viewed.
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Young’s appeal is compared with Stanwyck and Sharon Stone: intelligence, control and unpredictability make male characters’ reckless attraction believable.
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A joking Throw Your Life Away Hall of Fame places Edie Falco in Cop Land first and Dana Wheeler-Nicholson in Fletch second; no complete ranked list is supplied.
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Sharon Stone is imagined as capable of Susan, but Young’s teasing chemistry with both men feels distinctive.
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Hopes for a Young comeback persisted through films such as A Kiss Before Dying; her Ace Ventura role is memorable despite aging poorly.
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A Horny Hackman film cluster includes The Firm, No Way Out, Night Moves, Absolute Power and Heartbreakers, with Hoosiers and Superman debated as quieter examples.
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Hackman’s ordinary appearance contrasts with his authority, charisma and broad admiration among actors and viewers.
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Leachman’s published account prompts extended jokes about an audiobook and an unfinished dinner.
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Contemporary photographs of retired Hackman prompt affection and a wish that paparazzi leave him in peace; remarks belong to the episode’s 2024 context.
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Hackman’s prolific work across the 1970s and 1980s contrasts with his abrupt retirement; the filmography mixes classics and obscure titles.
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The Package is praised as a future episode possibility, and an old Hoosiers podcast video has resurfaced.
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Stories about Hackman’s impatience on Hoosiers and The Royal Tenenbaums lead to jokes about cue cards, quick shoots and working with Eastwood.
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Hackman seems to remain the same age for decades; even lesser films such as Class Action and Behind Enemy Lines can be satisfying watches.
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Donaldson’s varied filmography includes Cocktail, The Getaway, Species, Thirteen Days and Dante’s Peak; his thrillers emphasize plot more than Adrian Lyne’s.
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John Alcott’s cinematography and the helicopter opening make Washington look striking.
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Siskel’s negative reaction to No Way Out contrasts with Ebert’s enthusiasm, including disagreement about the characters and performances.
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Missing Beverly Hills, 90210 episodes and the delayed availability of Homicide prompt discussion of television music rights.
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An unfamiliar supporting performer can steal scenes from established stars.
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Scott’s invasion of Tom’s personal space and constant interference make the investigation increasingly tense.
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The Manila detour initially seems dispensable, but the later explanation of an empty bag reveals its relevance to Tom’s spy work; an initial objection is withdrawn.
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Susan’s slow-motion fall combines conspicuously 1980s effects with a melodramatic murder sequence.
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A hypothetical accidental killing prompts jokes about which friend would arrange escape and which would insist on calling police.
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Iman’s relationships with Warren Beatty, Spencer Haywood and David Bowie prompt a brief biographical detour.
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Jason Bernard’s roles in Liar Liar, The White Shadow and WarGames are recalled.
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A hypothetical revelation that a friend is a Russian spy becomes a joke about neighborhood and pizza recommendations.
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Howard Duff is initially mistaken for Joe Don Baker; the confusion extends to Cape Fear before Duff’s identity is corrected.
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The submarine subplot is reconstructed: the Russians favor a detectable American vessel, while Tom increasingly enjoys his American life and delays his assignment.
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Patton’s Remember the Titans performance is recalled as both bizarre and iconic.
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Patton and Terry Kinney are jokingly treated as rivals for similar supporting roles, followed by a defense of Kinney’s theatrical stature.
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International financing is offered as one reason modern Hollywood avoids clearly identified national villains.
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A hypothetical casino purchase of the Celtics becomes a riff on casino names and the team.
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A driverless Waymo ride inspires a joking crime-movie premise and title variations.
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A speculative mistress pyramid includes Debi Mazar, Mrs. Robinson, Casino and the Godfather films; no completed ranking is established.
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Tubi’s many confusing genre categories prompt a wish to curate the service.
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Dzundza’s work in The Deer Hunter and Law & Order is praised.
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Remember the Titans inspires jokes about coaching, video games and how winning quickly transforms attitudes.
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An imaginary conversation between Susan and Tom becomes a riff on baseball streaks, basketball draft choices and concealed Russian allegiances.
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A Waterworld reassessment praises its ambitious action while another viewer remains unconvinced after revisiting the opening.
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Costner’s all-American image makes the final identity reversal especially effective; later-era Cruise or Pitt are imagined in a comparable role.
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The Recruit is identified as Donaldson’s later film exploring similar territory.
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A first-time viewer and his brother stood up at the revelation and replayed the final fifteen minutes, having missed the pay-phone and landlord clues.
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A dissenting viewer finds Young’s performance cartoonish and the opening weak, but thinks the film steadily improves; the others strongly disagree.
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A prior claim that Philip Seymour Hoffman is overrated is revisited and challenged.
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Mainstream 1980s films are compared with modern streaming fare, with a defense of their stronger visual production values.
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