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One hot take provocatively defends Crisp

Kyle Brandt: Crisp is provocatively defended as a father seeking his son, reframing Kimball and the mother negatively despite Crisp’s violence.

Bill Simmons: Over the Top and Commando are comparisons for a father trying to recover a child; Kimball’s separation from his own son is contrasted with Crisp’s persistence.

Teachers matter

Kyle Brandt: Kindergarten teachers can make a major difference in children’s lives.

The film

Kindergarten Cop (1990)

Directed by Ivan Reitman · Comedy

111 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Arnold Schwarzenegger LAPD Detective John Kimble
Penelope Ann Miller Joyce Palmieri / Rachel Myatt Crisp
Pamela Reed LAPD Detective Phoebe O'Hara
Linda Hunt Miss Ingrid Schlowski
Richard Tyson Cullen Crisp
Carroll Baker Eleanor Crisp
Cathy Moriarty Jillian, Sylvester's Mother
Richard Portnow Captain Salazar
Angela Bassett Stewardess

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

19:28

Apex Mountain

Schwarzenegger’s 1990 action/comedy run is called his apex, with agreement.

Schwarzenegger’s 1990 action/comedy run is called his apex, with agreement.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Arnold is explicitly called at his apex, followed by agreement. — Kyle Brandt
  • Total Recall and Kindergarten Cop in the same year, followed by Terminator 2, are offered as evidence of his range and prominence; his Bush White House role is also mentioned. — Kyle Brandt
  • His relationship with Maria Shriver is added to the discussion of this peak period. — Kyle Brandt
25:51

Roger Ebert's review

3 stars (scale not stated)
In the discussion (2)
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  • Ebert’s reported three-star review praises the improbable combination of the film’s parts and Schwarzenegger. — Bill Simmons
  • Three stars surprises one participant, who expected two and a half; another stresses how many different elements Schwarzenegger carries. — Bill Simmons
29:19

Most Rewatchable Scene

The first classroom day and the tumor exchange

The first classroom day and the tumor exchange

In the discussion (13)
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  • The plane-to-driving vomit montage is offered; the drug-den shotgun scene with beard and sunglasses is also enjoyed and compared to Terminator’s club attack. — Bill Simmons
  • The beard is thought to look fake and badly colored, though a real beard or dye is considered; its absurd appearance is still enjoyed. — Bill Simmons
  • The travel sequence earns praise for the broken-pencil threat, Angela Bassett’s brief flight-attendant appearance and Schwarzenegger’s confused response to his partner’s vomiting. — Kyle Brandt
  • The first classroom day is remembered for the anatomy line, ocean warning, chaos, shouted orders and resort to the ferret. — Bill Simmons
  • The father/job questions and tumor exchange let the children become distinct personalities; more material like the overalls/bathroom gag is desired. — Bill Simmons
  • Reducing Crisp’s screen time to add a children’s play or rehearsal is proposed; Schwarzenegger’s repeated “come on” delivery is enjoyed. — Kyle Brandt
  • The milk-and-nap scene and nightmare doze-off are liked for their tenderness and comic effect. — Bill Simmons
  • The scene where he nearly attacks his partner’s fiance leads to criticism of the unexplained post-sex pasta and overused eating jokes. — Bill Simmons
  • The child-abuser confrontation and approving principal are celebrated as forceful entertainment while recognized as unlikely to survive modern studio notes. — Bill Simmons
  • The principal’s praise of him as a teacher is described as unexpectedly moving. — Bill Simmons
  • The climax is enjoyed despite mocking Crisp’s plan to start a library fire, grab a child amid the chaos and go upstairs without an escape. — Bill Simmons
  • Final choices favor the tumor exchange and opening classroom speech/first day. — Kyle Brandt
  • The unnamed ferret is questioned because children would immediately give it a name. — Bill Simmons
31:42

Apex Mountain

Ferrets receive an emphatic early Apex suggestion, with The Big Lebowski raised as a comparison.

Ferrets receive an emphatic early Apex suggestion, with The Big Lebowski raised as a comparison.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The ferret prompts an Apex Mountain question answered strongly yes; their brief pet popularity is recalled unfavorably. — Bill Simmons
  • The Big Lebowski’s marmot is raised as a competing animal reference; a separate celebrity rodent reference remains confused rather than established. — Bill Simmons
34:42

The most 1990 thing

Teachers punching a parent, with the principal approving, is called an especially1990 stretch.

Teachers punching a parent, with the principal approving, is called an especially1990 stretch.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The confrontation with the child abuser and principal’s approval are identified as the most1990 stretch. — Bill Simmons
  • The speakers imagine contemporary studio objections to the child-abuse plot and visible bruises. — Bill Simmons
36:07

Half-Assed Internet Research

Schwarzenegger is reported to have pushed for child-abuse and divorce themes.

Schwarzenegger is reported to have pushed for child-abuse and divorce themes.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Research is cited for Schwarzenegger wanting the film to address real child-abuse issues. — Kyle Brandt
  • His interest in divorce themes is contrasted approvingly with stereotypical action-star concerns about appearance and trailers. — Bill Simmons
38:48

The most 1990 thing

Crisp smoking past Brookstone at the mall overtakes milk as the most1990 choice.

Crisp smoking past Brookstone at the mall overtakes milk as the most1990 choice.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Whole-milk cartons and milk advertising initially look like the winning1990 detail. — Bill Simmons
  • Crisp’s silk clothing, ponytail and cigarette in a mall beside Brookstone are nominated, with memories of trying gadgets and massage chairs. — Bill Simmons
  • The mall choice is accepted over milk, the ferret and period cars; the red car is identified as a Geo Tracker. — Bill Simmons
40:10

Gandolfini Butter on My Ass So It Pops in My Mouth Award

Ordinary Schwarzenegger line deliveries and the explicit Austrian explanation for his accent are enjoyed.

Ordinary Schwarzenegger line deliveries and the explicit Austrian explanation for his accent are enjoyed.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Everyday lines, rather than just famous punchlines, are singled out as endlessly enjoyable in his delivery. — Bill Simmons
  • The basketball-coach cover story prompts jokes about what system Kimball might run and whether Schwarzenegger ever held a basketball. — Bill Simmons
  • Explaining that Kimball grew up in Austria is appreciated; Jingle All the Way is contrasted as leaving the accent and physique unexplained. — Kyle Brandt
42:25

What’s Aged the Best?

Astoria, the poster and ponytailed villains stand out; the cameo, beard and child-abuse discussion also receive atten...

Astoria, the poster and ponytailed villains stand out; the cameo, beard and child-abuse discussion also receive attention.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Astoria is praised as an idyllic-looking place to raise children and compared with the appeal of Notre Dame in Rudy and its appearance in The Goonies. — Bill Simmons
  • Jason Reitman’s kissing-child cameo and Schwarzenegger’s beard are listed. — Kyle Brandt
  • The abuse plot triggers a sarcastic contrast with present-day intolerance and memories of issue-driven sitcom episodes teaching children about danger. — Kyle Brandt
  • The strong poster and surname-only star billing are praised; Project Hail Mary’s Gosling billing and uncluttered Sports Illustrated covers are comparisons. — Bill Simmons
  • Ponytailed villains are celebrated: Crisp, Ben Kingsley in Sneakers, Julian Sands in Warlock, Sam Jackson in Jackie Brown and Terry Silver in Karate Kid3/Cobra Kai. — Bill Simmons
  • A ponytail’s ability to change someone’s perceived personality leads to a roommate anecdote. — Bill Simmons
47:17

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The nightmare scene

The nightmare scene

In the discussion (1)
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  • The nightmare is praised as a good surprise after apparently falling asleep with the child. — Kyle Brandt
47:17

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Astoria is the scene-stealing location.

Astoria is the scene-stealing location.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Astoria receives the location award and approving agreement. — Kyle Brandt
48:06

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Milk

Milk

In the discussion (2)
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  • Milk is chosen emphatically, with the lip-wiping moment credited for creating unusual sexual tension. — Bill Simmons
  • The flirtation near sleeping children leads to approving comments about the love interest’s attraction to Kimball. — Kyle Brandt
48:34

Steven Seagal shitting on himself award for most unbelievable anecdote from the actual film shoot

Premiere quotations describe children noticing nose-picking and Schwarzenegger teaching toughness.

Premiere quotations describe children noticing nose-picking and Schwarzenegger teaching toughness.

In the discussion (3)
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  • A Premiere article is quoted for children calling him strange but likable, reporting nose-picking and messy eating, and admiring his ability to lift everyone. — Bill Simmons
  • A Schwarzenegger quotation describes telling a crying child to toughen up after hurting her knee; the speakers contrast this with likely modern objections. — Bill Simmons
  • His intensity about fitness is discussed, including making young children exercise on set. — Bill Simmons
51:11

Is There a Porn Parody of This Movie?

None found

None found

In the discussion (2)
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  • Both say their searches failed to find a parody, joking about how the search terms might look. — Kyle Brandt
  • A separate search asks whether Crisp’s ponytail is real. — Bill Simmons
51:34

The Bam Out of Bayo 83 Point

The restaurant scene’s convincing romantic chemistry is the83-point surprise.

The restaurant scene’s convincing romantic chemistry is the83-point surprise.

Flex pick · Bill Simmons

In the discussion (2)
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  • The flex selection praises the dinner scene’s real romantic chemistry and imagines Reitman being delighted by unexpectedly strong acting. — Kyle Brandt
  • The selection receives agreement and a proud reaction. — Kyle Brandt
52:27

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Crisp’s mother-son relationship and the partner’s eating/vomiting material are the weak-link choices.

Crisp’s mother-son relationship and the partner’s eating/vomiting material are the weak-link choices.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The mother-son relationship is mocked as implausibly sexual/Oedipal; alternative relationship explanations are deliberately outrageous speculation. — Bill Simmons
  • Pamela Reid’s ability is acknowledged while her character’s repeated eating and vomiting are named as an unwelcome excess. — Kyle Brandt
54:08

What’s Aged the Worst?

Rectal thermometers lead the Aged Worst discussion alongside violence, old classroom practices and uncomfortable gags.

Rectal thermometers lead the Aged Worst discussion alongside violence, old classroom practices and uncomfortable gags.

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  • The pharmacy’s rectal thermometer prompts disagreement about whether it was a common childhood experience or intended to signal the mother’s sadism. — Bill Simmons
  • School arson/shooting, father/job questions, the ferret and the2016 Kindergarten Cop2 are listed; the sequel trailer is disliked and the thermometer is called the winner. — Kyle Brandt
  • Kindergarten children climbing a high gym rope over a thin mat are criticized as dangerous and outdated. — Bill Simmons
  • The skirt-looking joke and mother’s reaction are criticized; the partners sharing one hotel room is questioned as a contrivance for the fiance/pasta scene. — Kyle Brandt
59:17

Hans Gruber Scale Villain Ranking

Crisp: 6.5/10 and 4/10; his mother: 4/10

Crisp: 6.5/10 and 4/10; his mother: 4/10

In the discussion (4)
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  • Crisp receives6.5 for being strange and scary, his interrogation taunt, ponytail and clothing, despite limited material. — Bill Simmons
  • A second view gives both Crisp and his mother4 and recalls Richard Tyson in3 o clock high and Two Moon Junction as distracting baggage. — Bill Simmons
  • Brad Wesley in Roadhouse is judged a more consistently effective villain; Crisp’s escalation and uncertain degree of evil are criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • A reported account says test audiences sympathized with Crisp, prompting added nasty behavior; the toy-set assault is suggested as a possible addition. — Bill Simmons
1:01:47

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Richard Tyson

Richard Tyson

In the discussion (1)
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1:02:06

Did This Movie Need a Random Sports Scene?

A recess sports sequence with Schwarzenegger and the children is wanted, especially dodgeball.

A recess sports sequence with Schwarzenegger and the children is wanted, especially dodgeball.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Tag, dodgeball or kickball with Schwarzenegger ordering children around is proposed as irresistible viewing that could have preceded Billy Madison. — Bill Simmons
  • Making the abused child a dodgeball hero is floated; the need for another such scene is reiterated. — Kyle Brandt
1:02:58

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One hot take provocatively defends Crisp; the other would sacrifice the movie to prevent inferior copies.

One hot take provocatively defends Crisp; the other would sacrifice the movie to prevent inferior copies.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Crisp is provocatively defended as a father seeking his son, reframing Kimball and the mother negatively despite Crisp’s violence. — Kyle Brandt
  • Over the Top and Commando are comparisons for a father trying to recover a child; Kimball’s separation from his own son is contrasted with Crisp’s persistence. — Bill Simmons
  • The response calls the take great and really impressive. — Kyle Brandt
  • The second take would erase Kindergarten Cop to avoid dozens of bad imitators, using an exaggerated Oppenheimer analogy and citing The Tooth Fairy. — Kyle Brandt
1:07:13

Casting What-Ifs

Reported alternatives include Murray and Swayze; DeVito, O’Hara, Bullock, Wood, Slater and an uncertain Hepburn story...

Reported alternatives include Murray and Swayze; DeVito, O’Hara, Bullock, Wood, Slater and an uncertain Hepburn story follow.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Bill Murray and Patrick Swayze are reported as lead considerations; Murray is rejected by the speakers, Swayze interests them, and a later Keanu Reeves/Hardball version is imagined while Schwarzenegger remains preferred. — Kyle Brandt
  • Roadhouse dialogue, throat-ripping and a crude prison taunt are jokingly transplanted into Kindergarten Cop rather than reported as actual scenes. — Bill Simmons
  • Reported DeVito consideration is questioned because the police role seems implausible despite the opposite height joke; a Roadhouse crossover with Sam Elliott is imagined. — Bill Simmons
  • Catherine O Hara is reported unavailable because of Home Alone; Sandra Bullock and Elijah Wood are said not to have landed parts. The speaker’s identification of Joyce as the abused child’s mother is uncertain. — Bill Simmons
  • Christian Slater is said to have been considered for Crisp after Heathers but to have chosen Pump Up the Volume, which receives approval. — Bill Simmons
  • A story that Audrey Hepburn rejected Eleanor Crisp because she loved children is explicitly treated as unverified; the thermometer scene is joked about.
1:09:55

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Thomas Rosales Jr.

Thomas Rosales Jr.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The actor from Heat’s armored-truck sequence and L.A. Confidential is chosen and explicitly named Thomas Rosales Jr.
  • Stephen Park’s brief serious appearance over the dead girlfriend is celebrated through recognition of his Fargo character. — Kyle Brandt
1:10:51

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The overalls girl and anatomy-line child are the Heat Check candidates.

The overalls girl and anatomy-line child are the Heat Check candidates.

In the discussion (2)
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  • The overalls/bathroom girl is favored for unpredictable energy and her later exchanges with Schwarzenegger; unscripted behavior is speculation. — Kyle Brandt
  • The penis/vagina kid is the alternative; he is said to have played Gage in the film transcribed Pet Cemetery, with the actor name unstated. — Bill Simmons
1:11:43

Recasting Couch

Cameron is proposed to direct; Roberts, Cage, Turner and several mother-role alternatives are suggested.

Cameron is proposed to direct; Roberts, Cage, Turner and several mother-role alternatives are suggested.

In the discussion (5)
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1:13:48

Most Memorable Death by a Security Guard or Other Bystander

The toy-store customer (death uncertain)

The toy-store customer (death uncertain)

Flex pick · Kyle Brandt

In the discussion (2)
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  • The customer trying to make up a missed Christmas with a toy set is nominated after Crisp’s assault; the attack is described as knocking him unconscious. — Kyle Brandt
  • Serious injury or possible death is speculated about rather than confirmed; his politeness and wish to buy a gift make him the sympathetic winner. — Bill Simmons
1:15:12

Half-Assed Internet Research

Research reports the school location, a private workout gym, deleted scenes, a Criterion prank and five rules for chi...

Research reports the school location, a private workout gym, deleted scenes, a Criterion prank and five rules for child actors.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Filming at John Jacob Astor Elementary in Astoria, Schwarzenegger’s requested private gym and five cut Stephen Root scenes are reported; details beyond the deleted-scene anecdote are unknown. — Kyle Brandt
  • Criterion is said to have announced a prank disc release on April1,2012; a later4K release is mentioned. — Bill Simmons
  • The Goonies house is reported roughly1.6 miles from the school. — Bill Simmons
  • Reitman’s five rules are recited: listen, act naturally, know the character, avoid looking at the camera and be disciplined; camera awareness is thought hardest. — Bill Simmons
1:16:44

Apex Mountain

Schwarzenegger; action/kids hybrids; Astoria; comic tumor references; Brookstone: yes

Schwarzenegger; action/kids hybrids; Astoria; comic tumor references; Brookstone: yes

In the discussion (6)
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  • The earlier Schwarzenegger apex choice is reaffirmed. — Kyle Brandt
  • Two Moon Junction is preferred for Richard Tyson; Penelope Miller’s apex is left uncertain. — Kyle Brandt
  • Miller’s work with Pacino, De Niro and Brando is praised and IMDb’s four highlighted films are listed; hybrid action/kids movies get a yes. — Bill Simmons
  • Ghostbusters is preferred for Reitman, Astoria gets yes, undercover-cop movies no, and tumors yes specifically in a comic catchphrase sense. — Bill Simmons
  • Brookstone is added enthusiastically, though the store in When Harry Met Sally is uncertain between Brookstone and Sharper Image. — Kyle Brandt
  • Expensive gadgets, grip toys, headphones and novelty office objects prompt nostalgic store memories. — Kyle Brandt
1:19:35

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise is preferred; Hanks with children and Cruise as Crisp are also considered.

Cruise is preferred; Hanks with children and Cruise as Crisp are also considered.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Cruise is chosen despite seeing how Hanks could work with the children; Jerry Maguire desperation and awkward romance are imagined. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise losing control on the first classroom day is a particular attraction. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise as Crisp in Frank T.J. Mackie mode is another appealing possibility. — Kyle Brandt
1:20:38

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Spielberg

Spielberg

In the discussion (2)
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  • Spielberg is selected immediately. — Bill Simmons
  • A Scorsese version is imagined with a drug-using, estranged Kimball seeking revenge. — Bill Simmons
1:20:55

Picking Nits

A final physical brawl is wanted instead of relying on gunshots.

A final physical brawl is wanted instead of relying on gunshots.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Crisp and Kimball should fight in the shower room after the child gets away, as a standard action payoff. — Bill Simmons
  • The objection that Schwarzenegger could not believably be endangered is answered by wounding him with a bullet first. — Bill Simmons
1:23:38

Picking Nits

The undercover mission, partner’s illness and Kimball’s absent family

The undercover mission, partner’s illness and Kimball’s absent family

In the discussion (5)
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  • A physical showdown remains preferred; avoiding it because of children would be inconsistent with the bloody shooting alternative. — Bill Simmons
  • The need for two undercover cops in Astoria is questioned when the FBI could instead follow Crisp. — Bill Simmons
  • Waiting48 hours for Phoebe to recover is proposed because Crisp is still incarcerated. — Kyle Brandt
  • The unusually long illness prompts an obviously anachronistic COVID joke, alongside renewed hotel-room and family questions. — Bill Simmons
  • The unexplained lack of contact with Kimball’s son makes him look bad; Crisp harming the family or a visa problem sending them to Austria are proposed as more coherent backstories. — Bill Simmons
1:26:17

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Kimball fails at protecting Dominic during the fire and shootout.

Kimball fails at protecting Dominic during the fire and shootout.

In the discussion (2)
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  • He loses Dominic almost immediately, fails to stop Crisp, gets shot by both family members and needs his unarmed partner’s rescue. — Kyle Brandt
  • Their waiting despite knowing Crisp is out and the witness is dead is questioned. — Kyle Brandt
1:27:13

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A prestige remake would get a trial, with Ritchson and various dramatic actors or athletes proposed.

A prestige remake would get a trial, with Ritchson and various dramatic actors or athletes proposed.

In the discussion (3)
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  • A prestige remake interests the speakers, with Alan Ritchson as Kimball and Paul Mezcal or Barry Keoghan as Crisp. — Kyle Brandt
  • Travis Kelce is offered as an alternative, prompting a joke about Jason playing Crisp. — Kyle Brandt
  • Marshawn Lynch is accepted as another possibility; Aaron Rodgers as Crisp leads to a joke about his undecided playing future. — Bill Simmons
1:28:24

Is This Movie Better With…?

Gus Johnson calling the final showdown is the imagined addition.

Gus Johnson calling the final showdown is the imagined addition.

In the discussion (1)
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  • A deliberately invented announcer’s table and Gus Johnson play-by-play are performed over the ferret/shootout climax. — Bill Simmons
1:29:11

Just One Oscar

Hair and makeup for the beards and ponytails; score also considered

Hair and makeup for the beards and ponytails; score also considered

In the discussion (2)
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  • The score is tentatively suggested. — Bill Simmons
  • Hair and makeup for Kimball’s beard and Crisp’s ponytail are nominated and praised. — Bill Simmons
1:29:30

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Questions concern a possible Stallone jab, interchangeable supporting actresses and the original teacher’s fate.

Questions concern a possible Stallone jab, interchangeable supporting actresses and the original teacher’s fate.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Naming the doll-playing child Sylvester is speculated to be a Schwarzenegger/Stallone rivalry jab; Dominic’s name is also queried without an answer. — Bill Simmons
  • Pamela Reed and Laurie Metcalf are compared as excellent, potentially interchangeable actors, with Internal Affairs cited. — Bill Simmons
  • The displaced teacher’s job and tenure are questioned; an invented return followed by Kimball replacing her again imagines her leaving teaching. — Kyle Brandt
1:31:49

Probably Unanswerable Questions

A radically sadder ending killing Kimball is imagined, following more jokes about the displaced teacher.

A radically sadder ending killing Kimball is imagined, following more jokes about the displaced teacher.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The teacher’s long career and family are invented as part of the joke about Kimball replacing her. — Kyle Brandt
  • Killing Kimball would create a Hardball-style shock, an emotional funeral and a memorial library/statue; Dominic keeping the ferret and an Avengers-style gathering are imagined. — Kyle Brandt
  • The hypothetical escalates to End of the Road as soundtrack, Crisp escaping with Dominic, the partner teaching and an intentionally bleak fate for Dominic’s mother. — Bill Simmons
1:33:59

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

School merchandise and a complete Crisp outfit are desired.

School merchandise and a complete Crisp outfit are desired.

In the discussion (3)
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  • An Astoria elementary-school hat or shirt is the first preference. — Bill Simmons
  • A full Crisp Halloween costume with oversized suit, ponytail wig and bad tan is desired for the thrill of someone recognizing it. — Bill Simmons
  • The imagined look is compared to A Night at the Roxbury with Paul Revere’s ponytail. — Bill Simmons
1:34:51

Best Double Feature

Total Recall is preferred over an initial Home Alone pairing.
In the discussion (2)
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  • Total Recall is chosen to show Schwarzenegger’s1990 peak. — Kyle Brandt
  • Home Alone was the other initial choice for the children’s-movie moment, but Total Recall is accepted as better for showing the same actor’s range and expressions. — Bill Simmons
1:35:26

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Teachers matter; married people can dress casually

Teachers matter; married people can dress casually

In the discussion (2)
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  • Kindergarten teachers can make a major difference in children’s lives. — Kyle Brandt
  • The line about married people dressing like slobs is embraced, with athleisure and COVID-era comfort as comparisons. — Kyle Brandt
1:36:05

Who Won the Movie?

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Arnold Schwarzenegger

In the discussion (1)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger
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1:36:10

Producer review

Craig’s inserted first-watch review is positive overall, despite eye rolls and confusion about Crisp.

Craig’s inserted first-watch review is positive overall, despite eye rolls and confusion about Crisp.

In the discussion (4)
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  • An absent Craig is explicitly introduced for a recorded review; he calls it an easy watch that leaves him feeling good despite cheesy-line eye rolls with his wife. — Kyle Brandt
  • He credits1990s earnest obliviousness and Schwarzenegger’s effort, questions Richard Tyson’s identity/mother relationship and motive, and praises the ponytail/hair-and-makeup look. — Kyle Brandt
  • The unelaborated Austria exchange is his favorite line; he concludes the film succeeds as Schwarzenegger entertaining children. — Kyle Brandt
  • The hosts thank Craig, then jokingly claim he hated the film and mentioned runtime, contrary to the inserted review’s positive conclusion. — Bill Simmons
1:36:21

The Teddy KGB Award for the Actor in a Completely Different Movie

Craig proposes Richard Tyson for the actor-in-his-own-movie award.

Craig proposes Richard Tyson for the actor-in-his-own-movie award.

The panel proposes a new category here.

In the discussion (1)
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1:36:21

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

The brief Austria answer is Craig’s favorite line.

The brief Austria answer is Craig’s favorite line.

In the discussion (1)
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  • His favorite line is Kimball answering Austria when asked where he is from, with no follow-up. — Kyle Brandt

More from the conversation

Kyle Brandt returns after earlier Teen Wolf and The Running Man episodes; Kindergarten Cop is introduced as a 1990 Schwarzenegger film.
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The mix of school shooting, abuse, sexuality and children’s comedy is treated as a striking example of looser early-1990s family-film sensibilities; the PG-13 label is discussed, after an earlier uncertain PG recollection.
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The bullied child’s abuse storyline is described as unresolved, with uncertainty about his friendships and welfare after the fire and shooting.
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Schwarzenegger is praised as a uniquely effective action/comedy presence whose delivery can be funny even without conventional jokes; Twins and Kindergarten Cop work where Junior is said to overreach.
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A Premiere quotation reports Schwarzenegger had wanted a children-centered film for ten years; the ASR calls the Jon Voight boxing reference “the championship,” so its title remains unresolved.
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“It’s not a tumor” is placed behind “I’ll be back” and above “Get to the chopper” in catchphrase fame; the Amani Toomer nickname is credited with extending its life.
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A participant recalls initiating a friendly reconciliation with Berman at a 2013 ESPYs afterparty, praising his importance to ESPN; speaker attribution is left unresolved.
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Later variations starring the Rock, John Cena, Vin Diesel or Jason Statham are compared unfavorably; the child cast and Schwarzenegger’s interaction with them are praised as enduringly funny.
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A reported 1990 box-office top thirteen is recited, with Kindergarten Cop tenth. Home Alone is said to lead for twelve weeks before Sleeping with the Enemy displaces it.
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Schwarzenegger is said to overtake Stallone around 1990; Oscar, Stop! My Mom Will Shoot and Rocky V are contrasted with his run, with Cliffhanger framed as Stallone’s comeback attempt.
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An unnumbered nostalgia list names Schwarzenegger, Michael Jordan, Tiger, 1980s Eddie Murphy, Mike and the Mad Dog, Dan and Keith on SportsCenter, WWE’s Attitude Era, Randy Moss, Serena Williams and Michael Jackson; CR Month is jokingly added.
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Pamela Reid is praised as the buddy cop; Linda Hunt and Richard Tyson are discussed. Crisp’s brooding physicality is defended as entertaining, while another response finds him closer to a Roadhouse-style character than this cast’s level.
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Cathy Moriarty’s casting and the mother’s relief that her child is looking up girls’ skirts are criticized as an odd, unsettling detour.
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Reitman’s run from Meatballs through Dave is praised for pacing and star performances; Ghostbusters is called especially important and its pillows are noticed in Dominic’s bedroom.
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The film is reported to cost26 million, make202 million and run111 minutes, described as21 minutes over the Horlbeck scale. Craig is absent from the main discussion but a later review is announced.
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Schwarzenegger’s performance is praised for emotional credibility and willingness to be vulnerable: he gets shot and needs rescue, unlike the invulnerable image associated with some action peers.
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Schwarzenegger’s ease with children leads to advice to talk to children and seniors normally, make eye contact and avoid a patronizing voice.
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Dominic is reported to have been played by twins, whose surname is transcribed “cousin”; the identity remains unresolved in this review.
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The speakers discuss Chuck Norris and possible Rewatchables choices: Silent Rage, Delta Force, Missing in Action2, Code of Silence and Lone Wolf McQuade. An Aaron Rodgers interview is credited with inspiring a Silent Rage viewing.
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Future possibilities include unnamed Snipes/Bullock material, Lionheart, Kickboxer, On Deadly Ground, Marked for Death and a Point Break return; these are possibilities rather than scheduled episodes.
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Kyle Brandt promotes his work and recalls Cobra-related recognition; Ghostbusters next week and an approaching Netflix event month are uncertain future announcements, not tags for this episode.
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