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Van Lathan

Van Lathan is billed as a participant in the official Rewatchables episode feed. Further biography has not been verified for this prototype.

Also referred to as Ben Lanthan, Bane Latham, Van

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Episodes credited in this archive
79
Movies in this archive
78
Attributed podcast choices
13

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Appearing on these Rewatchables episodes

Friday the 13th

1980 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan

Aired October 13, 2026

Law Abiding Citizen

2009 film

Bill Simmons · Van Lathan · Craig Horlbeck

Aired September 22, 2026

The Italian Job

2003 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan

Aired August 11, 2026

Hitch

2005 film

Bill Simmons · Van Lathan · Mina Kimes

Aired July 21, 2026

Ali

2001 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan

Aired July 7, 2026

Tropic Thunder

2008 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan · Joel Anderson

Aired May 12, 2026

Ghostbusters

1984 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Van Lathan

Aired April 28, 2026

Basic Instinct

1992 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Mallory Rubin · Van Lathan

Aired April 14, 2026

Wild Things

1998 film

Bill Simmons · Van Lathan · Mallory Rubin

Aired February 3, 2026

Displaying episodes 1 - 12 of 79 in total

Mentioned in discussions

Creed The Rewatchables
Creed

Picking Nits

Unclear day job; Godfather crossover; ring experience; recovery; relationship pacing; eye makeup; post-fight respect

In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:31:33Read transcript
  • Nitpicks/unanswerable: Adonis’s financial-services job and work history are unclear, and weekend Tijuana boxing seems incompatible with managing clients’ money; Don Johnson is an appealing adviser-name joke.
  • Nitpick: Donnie’s Godfather impression crosses fictional worlds because Talia Shire appears in both franchises. — Chris Ryan
  • Nitpicks: Adonis has too little ring experience for this fight, despite a Ngannou comparison. Tijuana matchmaking is questioned; Van describes paid easy opponents as possible, but says he never did it. — Van Lathan
  • Nitpicks: Rocky’s rapid cancer recovery and international travel, Bianca’s abrupt backstage intimacy, Conlan’s physique and vulnerability, and Donnie’s swollen-eye makeup. — Bill Simmons
  • Changing Adonis’s maternal surname is challenged, then the objection is withdrawn when both Johnson and Creed are noted on the trunks. — Van Lathan
  • Conlan’s warm post-fight respect seems abrupt after their hostility, though reconciliation is called common in boxing; the length of his British gun sentence prompts jokes.
Creed The Rewatchables
Creed

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Wheeler spinoff; Rocky/Apollo romance theory; let Creed win; best franchise reboot

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:18:28Read transcript
  • Hottest take: Wheeler deserves his own film or sequel after Conlan breaks his jaw and Adonis inherits the title opportunity. — Chris Ryan
  • Van provocatively imagines Rocky and Apollo as lovers after the private third fight, using their intimacy and Rocky avoiding the widow as interpretive material. This is a joke theory, not a film fact; audience applause is not a ballot. — Van Lathan
  • Hottest take: Creed and the original Rocky should have let their heroes win; the moral victory already feels like victory, and withholding the title just to create a sequel seems cynical. — Sean Fennessey
  • Hottest take: Creed is the best franchise reboot or legacy sequel. Blade Runner 2049, Top Gun:Maverick, Cobra Kai and Nolan’s Batman films are alternatives, with qualifications about single-film sequels versus a long-running franchise. — Bill Simmons
Creed The Rewatchables
Creed

What’s Aged the Worst?

Age chronology; jawn and cheesesteak order; widow neglect; pacing; paperwork; bathroom; boxing’s stature

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 01:02:27Read transcript
  • PTI leading with the boxing match is nominated for aged worst.
  • Aged worst: Apollo’s 1985 death would make Donnie about 29, older than he seems. Setting Creed around 2010 is suggested; others question whether either movie’s internal year is fixed, leaving the chronology uncertain. — Bill Simmons
  • Aged worst: Bianca’s use of jawn now grates after wider popularization; her cheesesteak ingredients are questioned, though local preferences differ. — Chris Ryan
  • Van recalls receiving conflicting Philadelphia cheesesteak recommendations and ordering delivery after being warned against exploring at night; Bill had gone out. — Van Lathan
  • Van identifies Ishkabibble’s as his delivered cheesesteak; only some audience members approve. — Chris Ryan
  • Aged worst: Rocky never contacts Apollo’s widow after the funeral. Guilt over not stopping the fatal fight is offered as an explanation; the panel still argues he should have checked in.
  • Bill finds the film about twelve minutes too long but cannot name cuts; others object. A backstage film argument and Philadelphia basketball wishes interrupt the discussion.
  • Aged worst: printing and handing over a resignation letter seems unnecessarily formal. — Chris Ryan
  • Donnie’s pre-fight bathroom moment divides the panel between humanizing realism and a scene they do not need to see repeatedly. — Chris Ryan
  • The sidewalk promise of complete honesty ages poorly because Donnie lies to Bianca in later films. — Chris Ryan
  • Boxing’s diminished cultural importance is nominated, with a possible recent upswing acknowledged. MMA is considered as a modern substitute, but even praise for Warrior does not displace boxing’s cinematic appeal.
Creed The Rewatchables
Creed

Most Rewatchable Scene

Meek Mill training montage; shadowboxing with Apollo

In the discussion (19)
Approx. transcript time · 00:30:01Read transcript
  • Most Rewatchable Scene begins with young Adonis’s opening encounter with Mary Anne, praising a scene that works better than expected. — Bill Simmons
  • The opening adoption scene is essential to explaining Adonis’s feelings; the unclenched fist and title reveal are praised.
  • The Andre Ward car-key-bet fight is nominated, though watching Donnie beaten makes one host sad; Van compares it to humbling real boxing encounters. — Van Lathan
  • Donnie meeting Rocky at Adrian’s is praised for Stallone gradually recognizing Apollo’s son and the time-is-undefeated line. Rocky diminishing his own victories to honor Apollo reframes the franchise mythology.
  • Rocky says Apollo won their private third fight. Bill doubts whether he is sparing the son’s feelings; Van thinks Apollo probably won. The uncertainty remains unresolved. — Bill Simmons
  • Donnie moving into Paulie’s room leads to a scene using Stallone’s real son’s photograph; the hosts praise his visible emotion and report Coogler persuaded him to include it. Paulie’s absence and missing robot prompt jokes. — Bill Simmons
  • The uninterrupted Leo–Donnie fight is nominated; the panel names its cinematographer and reports thirteen takes with the eleventh used. — Bill Simmons
  • The two-round fight is praised as a culmination of boxing cinema, immersive proof of Jordan’s credibility and Coogler’s action ability. Its tie-ups and counterpunches feel more realistic than the Rocky-style finale; the camera’s move from Rocky’s instruction to the knockout is admired.
  • The Baby Creed confrontation with Tone Trump is a scene nominee, called a characteristically Philadelphia escalation between two easily offended men. Van had invited the rapper to attend. — Van Lathan
  • Van interprets Tone Trump and Bianca as former sexual partners; another host offers past flirtation without consummation as an alternative. Familiarity is agreed but sexual history remains speculation; a joint music track is imagined. — Van Lathan
  • A provocative joke links Bianca’s hearing loss to gunfire; the panel asks whether Baby Creed is insulting and suggests Adonis was primed to take offense.
  • The jailhouse reconciliation and its absent-father monologue are nominated, linked to the mirror-training advice. — Bill Simmons
  • The bikes-and-ATVs training montage is a thrilling modern counterpart to Rocky’s runs. Its Meek Mill music is framed against the 2015 Drake feud and explicitly wins the needle-drop category.
  • The press conference, Conlan’s false-Creed taunt, the trunks from his mother, Rocky’s pre-fight speech, Tupac’s Hail Mary and Conlan’s entrance are praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Adonis shadowboxing while watching his father’s footage is nominated as an image of wanting to become Apollo. — Van Lathan
  • The final fight is nominated, especially round two and the late corner exchange about not being a mistake. Rocky’s love and renewed will to fight his illness lead into the deliberately withheld Rocky theme; the implausibly timed finish is enjoyed with objections deferred. — Bill Simmons
  • The final museum-steps exchange about seeing one’s life is nominated.
  • Chris chooses the Meek Mill training montage and adds the cheesesteak first date as a particularly Philadelphia scene; the date also wins the food award.
  • Van favors the father-film shadowboxing and training montage; the recreated 24/7 fight promotion also impresses. Another final choice is the montage. Liev Schreiber’s narration and his Hard Knocks appearance prompt a tangent.
Flight The Rewatchables
Flight

Most Rewatchable Scene

Hotel relapse through Goodman; crash; opening

In the discussion (16)
Approx. transcript time · 00:38:47Read transcript
  • The opening hotel scene and Nadine Velazquez’s nudity made a striking theatrical impression; its importance later in the story and the abrupt cocaine-to-Feelin’ Alright transition are praised.
  • The takeoff toward a sliver of sunshine and the nine-minute crash are praised, especially Whip’s calm amid the copilot’s panic and technical dialogue.
  • Whip’s instruction that Margaret record a farewell to her son gives the crash its human center and displays his extraordinary awareness. — Van Lathan
  • A flight attendant’s death while helping a child is distressing, with her body thrown about during inversion. — Bill Simmons
  • The crew member’s tumbling body seems almost like an Airplane gag despite the tragedy; the clipped church cross and baptism water foreground religious symbolism. — Bill Simmons
  • Whip’s bloodshot, concussed hospital awakening contrasts the crash’s noise with stunned silence and grief over the deaths.
  • The stairwell meeting with the gaunt cancer patient is an admired philosophical center; James Badge Dale’s Departed role prompts a desire for more setup there.
  • Cheadle confronting Whip over the toxicology report punctures his entitlement and warns both protagonist and audience about the stakes.
  • Margaret’s funeral confrontation and the intensely religious hospitalized copilot/wife are favorites; even survivors’ serious injuries are frightening.
  • Cheadle’s desperate warning beside the reconstructed aircraft highlights Whip’s continued drinking; the plane’s incomplete reassembly mirrors his broken state. — Van Lathan
  • The adjoining hotel room’s temptation, relapse and morning discovery create unbearable suspense even on repeat viewings. The minibar’s abundance seems almost supernatural, and the whole stretch through Goodman is one vote.
  • Goodman’s first hospital visit with cigarettes and magazines is another nominee; his later Banana Boat rescue dominates through furious energy, expertise, payment demands and exit. The nickname’s origin inspires mock training-course jokes.
  • The testimony confession and I’m drunk right now line complete the collapse of Whip’s lies; addiction audiences reportedly find the minibar especially truthful. — Bill Simmons
  • Melissa Leo’s recurring Washington collaborations are wondered about, and the prison speech about sobriety and freedom is praised. — Van Lathan
  • Final preferences split among the hotel-to-Goodman stretch, the crash and the opening; one apparent crash vote immediately changes to the opening. — Bill Simmons
  • Van confirms the opening as his honest choice; Craig’s family-viewing anecdote illustrates its awkwardness. Thus the three core choices remain hotel stretch, crash and opening.
Flight The Rewatchables
Flight

Half-Assed Internet Research

Budget and gross; Alaska261; pilot criticism; sobriety; faith symbolism; production anecdotes

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 00:37:00Read transcript
  • A 31 million budget and 161.8 million gross are cited, with reduced Washington/Zemeckis compensation. — Bill Simmons
  • Alaska 261’s fatal inverted-flight attempt reportedly inspired the film; Atlanta filming and Zemeckis’s 1600 flight hours are cited. Pilot Patrick Smith criticizes the depiction as implausible and insulting to airline testing standards. — Bill Simmons
  • Goodman’s sobriety since 2007, similarities to 1980’s The Pilot and a 7:14 alarm/Chronicles 7:14 faith connection are reported. — Bill Simmons
  • Washington reportedly takes scene partners to dinner before intimate filming to build familiarity; the hosts speculate about venues and recall other costars. — Bill Simmons
  • Velazquez’s interview recounts using skin-colored modesty tape and Washington asking about it during filming; her joking reply is relayed. — Bill Simmons
  • The performer playing Kip is reportedly an accomplished editor who edited Country Strong. — Chris Ryan
  • A superstition about flight numbers adding to 11 is raised with 227 and two 191 crashes; the discussion makes Van anxious rather than establishing a causal fact. — Chris Ryan
Searching for Bobby Fischer

Apex Mountain

Chess movies; Max Pomeranc; ambitious 1993 children’s films; Washington Square Park, personally

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:35:04Read transcript
  • Chess movies and Pomeranc are affirmed; Mantegna is rejected in favor of Godfather III’s greater contemporaneous impact despite the film’s possible belated stature.
  • A case is endorsed for ambitious 1993 children’s live-action films, citing The Sandlot, Cool Runnings, Hocus Pocus and Homeward Bound, plus animated Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and The Nightmare Before Christmas. — Charles Holmes
  • Bringing the queen out early is floated and turns into suggestive wordplay and a discussion of which chess piece suits Van; no clear settled award follows. — Bill Simmons
  • Kingsley and Allen are rejected, with The Contender proposed for Allen. Fishburne’s 1993 Oscar run is argued for but challenged by Morpheus and The Matrix’s lasting cultural identification.
  • Evil kids is rejected. Washington Square Park is personally affirmed for this movie, while I Am Legend and When Harry Met Sally are raised as comparisons without resolving the broader claim.
Searching for Bobby Fischer

What’s Aged the Worst?

Park prejudice; Fischer’s later legacy; fishing trip disputed

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:10:23Read transcript
  • The mother’s fear of Black men in the park is criticized; later visits show a more beautiful Washington Square, with the older setting acknowledged. — Van Lathan
  • Fischer’s later reputation and decline undermine the romantic tortured-genius framing; other volatile sports figures illustrate a formerly tolerated archetype. — Bill Simmons
  • A two-week fishing reward sounds miserable to two hosts, while Van strongly defends fishing with one’s father and recalls a lake trip. — Van Lathan
In the discussion (13)
Approx. transcript time · 00:38:54Read transcript
  • Josh initially avoids beating his father until encouraged, illustrating tenderness rather than lack of skill. — Bill Simmons
  • Josh beating Shalhoub’s player and offering candy is a favorite one-scene appearance. — Bill Simmons
  • Parents banished from the tournament rely on child messengers; their willingness to be confined reveals how much the competition matters to them.
  • The teacher confrontation and Fred’s defense of his son’s gift are called an easy winner and perhaps Mantegna’s greatest acting. Whether his fury is justified versus embarrassing is disputed; modern spectators would record it.
  • After Josh loses in seven moves, his request that his father stand closer resolves the rain scene through vulnerability. The child actor’s quiet, perceptive sadness and ability to hold his own with major actors make it work.
  • Bruce revealing the certificates are meaningless shatters Josh, and the mother expels him. The scene suggests Bruce’s unresolved trauma; a Black household is imagined intervening sooner, while the child’s love of stickers is questioned then defended by his age.
  • The parents’ argument defends Josh’s decency and threatens separation if competitive pressure destroys it. — Bill Simmons
  • Fred offers to let Josh quit, but the boy insists it is more than a game; restoring the trophies and taking him back to Vinnie completes the reconciliation. — Bill Simmons
  • Vinnie’s park lesson restores instinct and risk-taking, urging Josh to play the opponent rather than merely protect the board. — Van Lathan
  • Bruce warns Fred how damaging a fall can be, and Fred replies that he understands; Bruce’s vulnerability shows. — Bill Simmons
  • Bruce’s framed certificate and declaration of pride before the final match supply an emotional reconciliation. — Bill Simmons
  • The final match combines psychological pressure, the queen motif, board visualization and the offered draw. Josh wins by integrating rather than suppressing his personality.
  • Van and Bill choose the teacher confrontation, while Charles chooses the reunion with Vinnie.
Searching for Bobby Fischer

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

More Vinnie; chess beats screen basketball; competitive contempt; mother–Vinnie affair

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:23:01Read transcript
  • The park community could support its own film; two additional Vinnie scenes would clarify his work, personality and emotional insight. The father’s druggie label seems poorly supported and possibly prejudiced.
  • Charles argues chess is more enjoyable and harder to perform convincingly onscreen than basketball; others counter that visibly bad physical sports acting is much more distracting. — Charles Holmes
  • Charles argues Bruce is right about competitive contempt and that the offered draw helped normalize participation trophies; the provocation is amusedly received rather than treated as evidence. — Charles Holmes
  • Van imagines the mother’s support for park chess masking an affair with Vinnie, extending the earlier divorce joke. — Van Lathan
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Flex picks

Ali The Rewatchables

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:34:27Read transcript
  • The flex category explicitly asks which character deserves a sequel. — Van Lathan
  • Cassius Clay Sr.’s perspective across his son’s transformation is the chosen story. — Van Lathan
Tropic Thunder

Five Movies Not Getting Greenlit in 2026

1. Soul Man; 2. The Birth of a Nation (1915); 3. Juwanna Mann; 4. Tropic Thunder; 5. The Ringer.

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (10)
Approx. transcript time · 01:34:18Read transcript
  • The Ringer ranks fifth on the list of five movies not getting greenlit in 2026. — Van Lathan
  • Tropic Thunder ranks fourth because the intact film is doubted as a present-day greenlight. — Van Lathan
  • Juwanna Mann ranks third because a man dominates the women’s league. — Van Lathan
  • The Birth of a Nation ranks second, specifically the 1915 film rather than the later film with the same title. — Van Lathan
  • Soul Man ranks first and is considered impossible to make in 2026. — Van Lathan
  • The film’s anti-racist conclusion is offered as a counterargument, but another speaker argues that viewers cannot get past its premise to reach that lesson.
  • The Crying Game is proposed as another film likely to be attacked today, particularly because its secret would be deliberately spoiled.
  • Fight Club is proposed as difficult to release now because preview coverage would expose its twist; the counterdiscussion focuses on lost secrecy rather than whether production itself is impossible.
  • The Blair Witch Project is rejected as workable under the same modern secrecy conditions. — Van Lathan
  • American History X is considered still makeable. — Van Lathan

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:04:45Read transcript
  • Van’s explicitly introduced top-five fictional bands are, from fifth to first: Josie and the Pussycats, the Wonders, Spinal Tap, the Five Heartbeats and Stillwater; Eddie and the Cruisers is intentionally excluded from this episode’s list. — Bill Simmons
  • A follow-up distinguishes best fictional band from best music: the Five Heartbeats, Wonders, Eddie and the Cruisers and Stillwater are compared, with Fever Dog considered a weaker signature than On the Dark Side or That Thing You Do!. — Van Lathan
  • The Revolution and the Time are excluded as actual bands despite Purple Rain’s fictional framing; Sex Bob-omb is suggested as an additional candidate.
  • Additional fictional-band candidates include Sex Bob-omb, the EuroTrip band, Hey That’s My Bike, CB4 and Citizen Dick; the Dan Band is distinguished as real and Citizen Dick’s onscreen performance is disputed.
Wild Things The Rewatchables
Wild Things

How Would Van Lathan Get Out of This One?

A motel visit framed as adult political and cultural outreach

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:15:45Read transcript
  • Van explicitly selects How Would Van Get Out of This One, inventing a defense of a motel visit as political/cultural outreach with adult college fans; the lengthy story is a comic hypothetical, not an event. — Van Lathan

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:16:41Read transcript
  • The top five begins with Running Scared fifth and Reggie/Jack fourth; the latter placement is disputed. — Van Lathan
  • Vincent/Jules rank third and Sidney/Billy second, with the action-comedy boundaries explicitly stretched. — Van Lathan
  • Riggs/Murtaugh rank first; 48 Hours is defended as the influential prototype, and the ranking remains disputed. — Van Lathan
  • Honorable mentions are Django, Men in Black, The Last Boy Scout and Money Talks; Men in Black could replace Running Scared. — Van Lathan
  • Wilder/Pryor are qualified, while Crockett/Tubbs raises the distinction between movie and television duos.
Snake Eyes The Rewatchables
Snake Eyes

How Would Van Lathan Get Out of This One?

Rick separately reframes Kevin’s betrayal to his wife and sets boundaries with his girlfriend.

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:23:14Read transcript
  • The speaker chooses Rick and tells his wife that Kevin’s betrayal proves her prior suspicions right. — Van Lathan
  • For Monique, the speaker proposes reasserting that their time apart is separate and offering a later hotel visit. — Van Lathan
  • The panel questions why Rick must arrange the late-night pizza and jokes about how both women might resist his framing. — Van Lathan
Sinners The Rewatchables

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 02:12:00Read transcript
  • Clarksdale and the American South are praised for textured beauty and convincingly old buildings. — Van Lathan
  • A Mississippi drive past cotton fields illustrates the South’s brutal beauty and its uneasy historical associations. — Van Lathan
Star Wars: A New Hope

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

An accidental Luke–Leia sexual relationship; Han mistreats Luke; Star Wars is great art and a damaging industrial precedent

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:01:11Read transcript
  • The trilogy is said to become darker and better if Luke and Leia unknowingly have sex before learning they are siblings.
  • The imagined guilt is argued to give Luke a stronger pull toward the dark side. — Van Lathan
  • Star Wars is called both one of the best films ever and one of the worst things to happen to Hollywood because of its industrial influence.
  • Han is called a cock-blocking dickhead who pursues Leia and tells Luke not to get cocky after Luke's success. — Chris Ryan
Rocky The Rewatchables
Rocky

Paulie Award for Asshole of the Film

Paulie

The panel proposes a new category here.

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 01:07:04Read transcript
  • Van explicitly selected flex Paulie Award for Asshole of Film, Paulie winner. Discusses sequel power-of-attorney financial ruin, objection Rocky V never happened; modest defense Rocky IV his best version.
  • Paulie flex continued: treats sister as commodity, blames her for unmarried life, insults her, destroys Thanksgiving turkey while keeping leg and coerces date. Rocky partly complicit in coercion; exaggerated wished-for retaliation. — Chris Ryan
  • Paulie flex: no redeeming deep-down goodness; proposed Paulie/Panino why-character-awful naming, neighbors would tire of yelling.
Crash The Rewatchables
Crash

Top Five List

Top five "white people solve racism" movies

  1. 5 The Blind Side
  2. 4 A Time to Kill
  3. 3 Crash
  4. 2 The Help
  5. 1 Driving Miss Daisy

Flex pick · Van Lathan

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 00:57:09Read transcript
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