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Casting What-Ifs

Hanks; Ryder; Harrelson; Dorothy finalists; Foxx; Jackson; uncertain Lane

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  • Gooding reportedly auditioned early and remained the benchmark despite later auditions including Jamie Foxx. His voluntary decision to undress for an audition scene is corrected after a misunderstanding that he was required to. — Bill Simmons
  • Gooding receiving his Oscar from Mira Sorvino is noted because she reportedly lost Dorothy when her agents requested too much money. — Bill Simmons
  • Crowe reportedly wrote for Hanks and Winona Ryder; Hanks passed after the long writing process to make That Thing You Do!, and Ryder with Cruise seemed too sibling-like. Woody Harrelson reportedly rejected an offer because audiences would not care about an agent; his hypothetical casting is considered inferior to Cruise. — Bill Simmons
  • Gwyneth Paltrow's reading with Cruise reportedly reminded Crowe of Annie Hall. Janeane Garofalo reportedly lost weight as requested for Dorothy but was then told she was too old. — Bill Simmons
  • Jennifer Lopez auditioned, but Connie Britton was reportedly the final alternative to Zellweger. Britton's height theory and reportedly disastrous screen test are discussed without settling the reason. — Bill Simmons
  • Jamie Foxx's Rod audition is revisited as a plausible different version of the role, with Willie Beamen later giving him a sports-film showcase. — Bill Simmons
  • Janet Jackson reportedly auditioned and accepted Marcee before the deal fell through; Regina King replaced her and the film helped move her toward major Hollywood roles. — Bill Simmons
  • Diane Lane as Avery is an uncorroborated casting rumor that excites interest; Preston's death is distinguished from Lane, who is alive.
The Bodyguard

Most Rewatchable Scene

Frank and Rachel's date; the last 15 minutes from the Oscars to the airport ending

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  • The last 15 minutes are predicted to win before the runners-up are reviewed. — Bill Simmons
  • Frank meeting Rachel at the full-production video rehearsal at her house ("you don't look like a bodyguard" / "This is my disguise") establishes her fame and diva attitude within five minutes. — Bill Simmons
  • In the club sequence Rachel performs the dance song and Frank fights Mike Starr; the collapse into a mosh pit that endangers a famous star is called a little pushing it, but compelling. — Bill Simmons
  • The club scene is where she must surrender control after repeatedly refusing his intervention, reflecting the theme of protecting someone too proud to admit needing protection; he must find connection and she vulnerability, and they start to build trust. — Van Lathan
  • The club song is an unusual Whitney choice aimed at Janet Jackson territory; one participant likes it, the other never liked that Jody Watley/Janet Jackson era, citing Black Cat versus Miss You Much and liking Cold Hearted Snake. — Van Lathan
  • The roughly seven-minute date is picked over the ending: it sets up the dead-client confession cliche from Lethal Weapon 2 and bails out with the joke "She didn't love me anymore," and she calls I Will Always Love You depressing, setting up a later callback. — Van Lathan
  • The date ends back at the apartment with the samurai sword and the falling silk, showing her how dangerous he is; it is called one of the best date-connection scenes in movies, and agreed. — Van Lathan
  • The film should have had two or three more connection scenes like the date instead of Frank calling it a mistake the next morning. — Bill Simmons
  • The Run to You performance is mentioned; the film is way too long, and any re-edit would stay on Whitney singing rather than cutting to the banquet. — Bill Simmons
  • The last 15 minutes include Robert Will (as transcribed) hosting the Oscars, her presenting and winning, a voice double singing her song, Frank in slow motion, the camera rifle, and a random Debbie Reynolds appearance with no other famous people. — Bill Simmons
  • The ending, with Frank seeming about to die, the airport, her stopping the plane and the a cappella song that was reportedly Costner's suggestion, is one of the great endings and is named as a choice. — Bill Simmons
  • The other pick is the Frank-Rachel date, called adorable and very important to the plot and the connection between the characters. — Bill Simmons
  • Later, the kitchen fight between Frank and Mike Starr is flagged as missed in the scene discussion. — Van Lathan
Coming to America

What’s Aged the Worst?

117-minute runtime; John Amos's once-major presence; Darryl bragging about St. John's tickets; the name Semmi; John Landis's next films; missing hit soundtrack

In the discussion (15)
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  • At 117 minutes it is too long; about 105 would be ideal, cutting the first 20 minutes to get to New York. — Bill Simmons
  • John Amos being in the movie was a big deal in 1988 that is hard to explain 33 years later, like other TV dads such as Robert Reed. — Bill Simmons
  • Darryl being excited and bragging about four tickets to a St. John's game has aged poorly. — Bill Simmons
  • Arsenio's character is named Semmi, like a Celtic (ASR "shemiochile") blamed for the team being 13-13 as they tape. — Bill Simmons
  • Soul Glo hurt Eric LaSalle's career until ER; a counterpoint says he made good there, and Shari Headley didn't get enough work afterward.
  • LaSalle is outrageously handsome even under the curl, unlike Eddie, whose stardom never relied on looks. — Wesley Morris
  • The bearded O.J. Simpson in Buffalo around 1975 as the most handsome man who ever lived is reaffirmed. — Bill Simmons
  • John Landis's next films after this: Oscar, Innocent Blood and Beverly Hills Cop 3, which is called terrible.
  • Beverly Hills Cop 3 was the first movie one participant ever walked out of. — Van Lathan
  • Eddie doing a third Beverly Hills Cop felt sad; it became almost a Disney film.
  • Rewatching Cop 3 on cable confirmed it was bad; after it Landis made The Stupids, Blues Brothers 2000 and Susan's Plan. — Bill Simmons
  • The System's end-credits theme song is called aged worst; others object, calling it a jam played on BET. — Bill Simmons
  • The song wasn't a hit because it wasn't that good. — Bill Simmons
  • The soundtrack is a missed opportunity: the only song heard in full is The Greatest Love of All, with no Janet Jackson or Paula Abdul, while other movies had big soundtracks like the Pointer Sisters.
  • Nile Rodgers did the music and Michael Jackson, his friend, is nowhere on it; "It's a miss."
Friday The Rewatchables
Friday

What’s Aged the Worst?

The body-shaming blind-date scene (tentative pick); analog phones, beepers and star 69; Felicia asking to use the VCR to dub a tape; the Mexican-accent jokes in the angel dust flashback; how thin the bags of weed look

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  • Obvious analog touches: phones, beepers, Craig's mom knowing who called because she hit star 69, which one host has to confirm the others understand; the giant boom box is judged to have aged pretty well; Felicia asking to use the VCR to dub a tape got a laugh on a rewatch.
  • The one mean-spirited scene is the worst thing: Debbie sets Smokey up with a friend who says she looks like Janet Jackson, and when she arrives heavier than expected Smokey pulls her hair out and insults her appearance to her face, which the film did not need.
  • The Mexican accents in the angel dust scene are called unnecessary, easy, low-hanging jokes that cut against a movie about complicating how people in the hood are depicted.
  • How thin the weed looks has aged badly: when Smokey sells to Hector and his friend in the car, the twenty-sacks look like thimbles or empty plastic bags.
  • The body-shaming scene is tentatively the worst-aged choice; the Janet Jackson, Freddie Jackson line is still funny to one host but gave pause in 2017, and the joke does not scan because the woman is not unattractive; the hosts then promise research, heat check, Apex Mountain and Who Won after the break.
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