Going bigger than Micah Monroe (as transcribed), this is the kind of movie Jennifer Lawrence should have made in the 2010s instead of the David O. Russell area; Winter's Bone made people want this, a contract thing transcribed as The Last House on the Left came early in her career, and she would have been good in one elevated horror.
The actual answer moves it to Boston: she is at Bunker Hill Community College with Robin Williams, running around Charlestown, reciting the love song of J. Alfred Prufrock in a Boston accent.
One night with the It Follows girl is worth it; better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons; it would make $180 million today; Maika Monroe holds the Scream Queen belt; the sequel should be a comedy
Rolling the dice for a one-nighter with the It Follows girl: at every point from age 18 to 27 the answer would have been fuck it, worth the demon STD.
It goes straight into the doctrine of bet on yourself, counting on scoring again in the next couple of nights; there is no time limit to pass it along.
Changing the Catherine Trammell would you throw your life away award to the would you have sex with the It Follows girl award, or the Bill Simmons I would award, is floated.
Another take: this movie is better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons, the elevated horror of the last 15 years, because it has a lot on its mind and peels back more every time, down to her broken hand holding Paul's at the end.
Piggybacking, if it came out right now with a big studio it would make $180 million, at least 100, and it is very similar to Obsession.
Part of what people respond to with horror is newness and surprise, so for the sequel no trailer is wanted, just the title and one second.
The sequel's title is argued as They Follow or They Follows, and Paul is not in it.
Micah Monroe (as transcribed) still has the Scream Queen belt, with competition from Jessica Roth (as transcribed) and Samara Weaving, after Jamie Lee in the 80s, Neve Campbell in the 90s and Naomi Watts in the aughts for Ring, Ring 2, the Funny Games remake and Mulholland Drive.
Funny Games is not a rewatchable because it's not a fun hang, and the dad, Tim Roth, is a zero out of ten on the protect my family scale.
The last take is that the sequel should change genres into a straight comedy, just Paul trying to get laid as people come towards him, made by the This Is the End crew.
Phil Hellmuth was reportedly intended instead of Chan; Chan is preferred while a Hellmuth meltdown is imagined.
Neve Campbell reportedly declined Jo when Party of Five and Scream made her popular; observed Neb spelling remains candidate normalization. — Bill Simmons
Baruchel’s roller-coaster fear and reactions are reportedly real, with repeated takes making actors ill. — Bill Simmons
A DVD extra reportedly stages Cera being fired and Bennett Miller joining as codirector; two responses say they have not watched it. — Bill Simmons
Heigl’s reported 14 th-place Maxim ranking surprises, followed by jokes about a reported 2014 menagerie: eight dogs, four cats, nine horses, two donkeys, two goats and eight chickens. — Bill Simmons
An apparent topless Neve Campbell shot in the film’s Wild Things excerpt is questioned because the hosts cannot find it in released versions. — Bill Simmons
The fantasy draft’s Hideki Matsui choice is introduced for discussion. — Bill Simmons
Pete’s delayed Delgado request shows confusion, but the hosts consider Matsui a solid sixth- or seventh-round choice. — Craig Horlbeck
The only item: Neve Campbell turned down Joe; the film seems to have been locked in on Damon and Norton throughout, with little almost-happened history.
Both hosts think the movie would have worked better with Neve Campbell: a better actress at a nice point in her career, Party Five (as transcribed) still running and post-Scream, inherently sympathetic, which Joe needs so you believe she is trying to get Mike McD to go straight.
What is the next day of school like for Sidney? What does the house's owner fix first? How much does Sidney regret losing her virginity to the killer? What would you do when the murders start? Why did the killers not finish her? Was there a Scream 20th anniversary? Is the lack of diversity intentional? What expo was Sidney's father headed to?
What is the next day of school like for Neve Campbell's character? She is done for the rest of the year, though strong-willed enough to try to come back early, and the principal is dead too.
What does the house's owner fix first? The garage door before the blood, or simply bulldoze the house and sell the land after fifteen murders and fifty gallons of corn syrup, since it becomes a Halloween tourist attraction.
The virginity subplot winks at the earlier movies where the girl who did not have sex survived; how much does Sidney regret that her first time was with the killer ten minutes before his spree, and how does she tell later partners?
Scream 2 arrives two years later with Sidney, after more trauma than any human, simply going to college and a sorority; one host does not acknowledge Scream 2 and 3, though the Jerry O'Connell cafeteria song and Laurie Metcalf are liked while the long ending with the mother drags.
Asked what to do when the murders start at the party: just run away, out to the middle of the street where nobody can sneak up, for two miles if needed, saving nobody.
Flipped around: with Neve Campbell hard to kill, the killers were toying with her and should have finished it when he had her in the Jeep, like the Wolf Creek killer stabbing straight through the car seat, or Oberyn Martell failing to finish the Mountain in Game of Thrones.
The killer toying with the last girl was a horror staple of the era, as when Jamie Lee Curtis drops the knife beside Michael Myers; the final-girl flirtation is a trope shared with James Bond and Six Million Dollar Man.
Was there a Scream 20th anniversary? Scream 4 in 2011 updated it with Emma Roberts and was not great, and MTV made a Scream TV show nobody here watched; self-reference can only go so far before it becomes Airplane, and Scream 4 lays it on thick.
Last question: is the astonishing lack of diversity intentional? Probably unintentional and corrected in Scream 2 with Jada Pinkett Smith and a Black best friend; no minority with a speaking line is recalled, a cast that would never happen today, and the filmmakers would likely claim it was a statement about how white earlier movies were.
Earlier, what expo Sidney's father is heading to after the attack is asked.
Wes Craven could be argued but Elm Street is still his Apex Mountain; his amazing career spans the three stages of late-century horror, from Hills Have Eyes and Last House on the Left to creating Freddy and reinventing the genre in the nineties, and he is underrated, on a Mount Rushmore with Tobey Hooper (as transcribed), George Romero and John Carpenter; the movie still moves today.
The coming Halloween remake with Jamie Lee Curtis is asking audiences to forget some sequels, like Rocky Balboa waving off Rocky V, which is what 48 Hours should have done.
A confession that Nightmare on Elm Street was a shitty movie meets a fan of the first two and Dream Warriors; Heather Langenkamp is dismissed, and Wes Craven's New Nightmare, the meta Freddy movie, failed just before this, leaving Scream as a bit of a last gasp for his career.
Neve Campbell's nominees are this or the intervention scene with Bailey in Party of Five.
Another feels the same way about the intervention, called the saddest hour in television history with Bailey as the rock of the family, and it stands even against Scream's $290 million.
Skeet Ulrich is clearly at his Apex, with nothing else competing; he was in As Good as It Gets, went a couple of rounds with Jericho, and is now known to kids as Riverdale's Skeet Ulrich.
A tangent on Skeet Ulrich's first name becoming slang, popularized by Dave Chappelle, and whether his stage name was a bad choice slides into a crude callback to the Silence of the Lambs episode's Migs discussion.
Reader Howard from Calgary writes that Stuart Rudin, who played Migs, was in Sticky Fingers and has an IMDb of homeless men, winos and patients; Migs was his Apex Mountain, and listeners are invited to the mailbag.
Matthew Lillard: it has got to be, with SLC Punk raised; considering how good he is in Scream, this is his Apex.
Jamie Kennedy was forced on the culture with an MTV show after this and never took; his Apex Mountain is definitively dating Jennifer Love Hewitt, an achievement rather than a performance, which leads to a tangent on why women disliked her.
For David Arquette the reminder is that he held the WCW heavyweight title, a movie tie-in, the belt once held by Ric Flair.
Eight Legged Freaks is also raised for Arquette; Rose McGowan is a no, her later weirdness and dating Marilyn Manson jokingly called her apex, though she had a cool indie career, the Rodriguez Grindhouse movie with the gun leg, and is now a filmmaker and activist.
Courtney Cox is first a no, since it has got to be Friends and you cannot get higher; one voice later counters, unresolved, that the combination is her apex, since this came out during Friends season three when Monica was dismissed as having no personality and showed she could be the bitch too; her later characters are more Gail Weathers than Monica.
She reportedly pursued the role to play someone not traditionally nice and to get punched in the face; her later sitcoms were Dirt and the Bill Lawrence show about people in LA drinking wine, whose title nobody can remember.
Henry Winkler is joked to have been the mountain itself.
Earlier, while praising the cast, Drew Barrymore is followed by the garbled phrase 'I'd heard, like, Mad Love Apex' (as transcribed).
Drew Barrymore was cast as Sidney before commitments cut her to four days; Molly Ringwald was Williamson's first choice for Sidney; Brooke Shields for the Courtney Cox reporter; Ben Affleck considered for the Skeet Ulrich part; Breckin Meyer for the Jamie Kennedy part; Reese Witherspoon declined to audition for Sidney; Rebecca Gayhart (as transcribed) for the Rose McGowan part; Freddie Prinze (as transcribed) up for a role
Drew Barrymore was supposed to be Sidney and was locked in, the first to buy in and give the script credibility, but commitments left them four days with her, so she played the opening scene, which is thought to have helped the movie.
It is hard to name another 1996 actress who could have carried the first murder with the same weight; Jennifer Aniston pretending to be eighteen is rejected, while Barrymore was famous yet young, a zeitgeist star.
Neve Campbell was caught at a nice point in Party of Five; in a fantasy draft of 1996 actresses including Aniston, Courtney Cox, Reese Witherspoon and Sarah Michelle Gellar one host would take her top five for a 25-year career, while another never really got it.
Party of Five trained her to do the sad emotions better than anybody, and she is formidable enough that you believe she would win a straight-up fist fight, which is why Drew Barrymore would not have worked as well in the lead.
Gail Weathers getting punched in the face is another good scene for a host who hated Friends as a kid and still counts Ross as the least favorite character, which draws the remark that this is a hot-takey podcast.
Neve Campbell never found a second stage after starring in a hundred-million-dollar movie; she is thought to have gone artsy and precious with the dance movie The Company, and her House of Cards appearance was greeted as a comeback.
Molly Ringwald was the first choice Williamson wrote the movie for; she turned it down as too old at 27, which would have been a disaster as a high school senior, though an aged-up, harder-edged Gail Weathers might have suited her.
Brooke Shields was in the mix for the Courtney Cox reporter role and Ben Affleck was supposedly considered for the Skeet Ulrich part, but this is one of the few movies where no name could be plugged into any role to improve it.
Jamie Kennedy's part is the one that might have been stepped up, yet Breckin Meyer, who was up for it, would not have worked, because the character has to be annoying in the right way.
Reese Witherspoon was wanted to audition for Sidney and wanted no part of it; she would have been good in anything, even Predator, and instead made the roller-coaster movie with Mark Wahlberg and the gnarly Freeway that year, with Cruel Intentions flagged for a future episode.
Rebecca Gayhart (as transcribed) was up for Rose McGowan's part, though nothing like her, and was then put in Scream 2; after 90210 and the Noxzema ads she looked destined to be a massive star, but like Felicity she was hair dependent in a way that fit only 1996.
Freddie Prinze (as transcribed) was remembered from the research as up for one of these roles; he was neck and neck for everything for three years, and gets away with his acting only in high school movies, so Summer Catch and She's All That cut around his throwing and kicking.
