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Casting What-Ifs
Bill Murray and Nick Nolte; alternate director and Debbie contenders.
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:24:27Read transcript
- Bill Murray and Nick Nolte are reported as having been attached before a disagreement ended the pairing. — Bill Simmons
- Jonathan Demme is reported as attached before another commitment. — Bill Simmons
- Melissa Leo and Mariel Hemingway are reported as serious screen-test contenders for Debbie. — Bill Simmons
- Phoebe Cates is discussed as another rumored Debbie possibility, with uncertainty about the report.
Apex Mountain
Sharon Stone; Joe Eszterhas; erotic thrillers; Coke and Jack Daniel’s; ice picks; women on top
In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:28:58Read transcript
- Verhoeven’s Apex is disputed: Starship Troopers is preferred for its later reputation, while Basic Instinct is defended for its cultural impact, commercial success and creation of a star. — Bill Simmons
- Apex affirmatives are Stone, Eszterhas and erotic thrillers; Douglas and San Francisco films receive no, while ceiling sex mirrors are qualified by later MTV Cribs examples. — Bill Simmons
- Freeze-frame moments are discussed with a Phoebe Cates counterexample; Tripplehorn’s peak is debated against The Firm, Coke and Jack Daniel’s receives assent, elevator murders loses to Dressed to Kill, and male-star nudity is proposed with Gibson, Costner and Willis comparisons.
- The resumed Apex discussion endorses ice picks and women on top; sex with a therapist is proposed but compared with The Sopranos and The Prince of Tides.
Apex Mountain
Denise Richards; Dillon’s 1998; Blue Bay; champagne-and-fake-gun threesome; sailing qualified
In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 00:30:34Read transcript
- The pool-emergence apex is disputed between Richards and Phoebe Cates, with Cates’ cultural impact favored and Jessica Biel another example. — Mallory Rubin
- Apex: Richards yes; Campbell qualified against Scream and her broader run; the threesome is called unusually publicized, not necessarily the best.
- Apex: Bacon no, Dillon’s combined 1998 yes; fictional Blue Bay and the champagne-and-fake-gun threesome yes; Murray no; high-school sailing tentative. — Bill Simmons
What’s Aged the Best?
Hockey footage, the cast, Reggie’s clothes, local sports culture and the Hansons.
In the discussion (13)
Approx. transcript time · 00:47:10Read transcript
- The hockey footage's wide shots and close action look remarkably convincing; helmetless players help. — Bill Simmons
- The arena's plain War Memorial name is preferred to corporate naming rights. — Chris Ryan
- The scrappy team versus ownership story remains a strong sports trope, and the cast is full of recognizable emerging actors. — Chris Ryan
- Newman's fur-trimmed leather jacket and brown leather leisure suit. — Bill Simmons
- Awkward local sports interviews and Crouse with Newman before The Verdict. — Bill Simmons
- Francine's distinctly 1970 s appearance, and the fashion-show threat to expose oneself followed by offscreen screams. — Bill Simmons
- The Deep Throat and Meatball double-feature marquee. — Bill Simmons
- Reggie's unbothered reply to McCracken's sexual insult. — Bill Simmons
- The obnoxiously horny teammate is an enduring type, though his conduct would now violate workplace rules.
- The talented player who refuses to fight, compared with real hockey stars and their enforcers.
- The mass mooning at Hyannisport.
- Melinda Dillon's nude scene is recalled as an early formative movie experience. — Bill Simmons
- The unranked early movie-nudity roster includes Melinda Dillon, Lacey Underall in Caddyshack, the Shining bathtub woman, the Animal House women, Airplane’s faceless topless woman, Phoebe Cates, Jamie Lee Curtis, Linda Hamilton, Apollonia in Purple Rain, Joyce Heiser (ASR) in Just One of the Guys, Apollonia Corleone and Total Recall’s three-breasted woman. The Shining room number is corrected from 217 to 237. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:25:41Read transcript
- Nick was reportedly the only role written for a particular actor, William Hurt. — Bill Simmons
- JoBeth Williams and Glenn Close both wanted Meg. — Bill Simmons
- Phoebe Cates auditioned for Chloe and met Kevin Kline, but Meg Tilly’s ethereal quality is preferred. — Bill Simmons
- Kline wanted Goldblum’s funnier role before being pushed to Harold. — Bill Simmons
- Sean Penn as Alex is treated as an unverified and age-inconsistent rumor.
Casting What-Ifs
Steve Martin was attached before the screenplay; Phoebe Cates was offered Annie, and Disney initially resisted Diane Keaton after The Good Mother.
This discussion recalls a choice from an earlier episode.
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 00:56:36Read transcript
- Steve Martin was cast before the screenplay was written. — Bill Simmons
- Phoebe Cates was offered Annie Banks but was pregnant. — Bill Simmons
- The panel imagines that Cates could have competed for some roles later associated with Demi Moore. — Bill Simmons
- The actor eventually cast as the mother said Disney did not want her after The Good Mother failed. — Bill Simmons
- The filmmakers reportedly had to press Disney to cast her. — Bill Simmons
Recasting Couch
Phoebe Cates in the Bo Derek role
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:10:09Read transcript
- Phoebe Cates replaces Bo Derek, a nostalgia pick echoing her Fast Times pool scene and a far better actress than Derek, called abysmal. — Bill Simmons
- Without Bo Derek the '10' joke is lost. — Cousin Sal
- Julie Warner had been written down but the size disparity is judged worth keeping. — Cousin Sal
- A question is floated about swapping Julie Warner for 1995-era Julie Bowen after the Happy Gilmore episode. — Sean Fennessey
- Cates would have been only 32 in 1995, much closer to Tommy's age; agreed as a fair point. — Bill Simmons
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