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The Godfather Part II

200 minutes

Cast

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Al Pacino Michael Corleone
Robert Duvall Tom Hagen
Diane Keaton Kay Adams Corleone
Robert De Niro Vito Corleone
John Cazale Fredo Corleone
Talia Shire Connie Corleone
Lee Strasberg Hyman Roth
Michael V. Gazzo Frank Pentangeli
G. D. Spradlin Senator Pat Geary
Richard Bright Al Neri
Gastone Moschin Don Fanucci
Tom Rosqui Rocco Lampone
Bruno Kirby young Peter Clemenza
Frank Sivero Genco Abbandando
Morgana King Mama Carmela Corleone
Marianna Hill Deanna Corleone
Leopoldo Trieste Signor Roberto
Dominic Chianese Johnny Ola
Troy Donahue Merle Johnson
Joe Spinell Willi Cicci
Danny Aiello Tony Rosato
Amerigo Tot Bussetta
James Caan Sonny Corleone
Roger Corman Senator #2
Harry Dean Stanton F.B.I. agent #1

The Godfather Part II | The Rewatchables

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Most Rewatchable Scene

Senator Geary negotiation; Havana sequence; Fredo and Michael scene

In the discussion (38)
Approx. transcript time · 00:46:54Read transcript
  • Geary's insult and Michael's reply that his offer is nothing, not even the fee for the gaming license, show Michael has gone to another level; the line is often quoted between the hosts.
  • Hyman Roth starts slowly, watching the real Notre Dame-USC game, before his Mo Greene speech about the man who invented Las Vegas.
  • Michael pulling his chair close to Roth is a lesson in how men of that era learned a code; pulling a chair uncomfortably close to get the truth is called very effective in real life.
  • Strasberg, a legendary acting teacher in his first film performance, is perfectly cast as a Meyer Lansky stand-in; Coppola fills the film with figures from movie history, such as Gazzo and Roger Corman.
  • Roth is Michael's aspirational Vito figure yet lives alone in a small Miami house watching college football and eating sandwiches; a peanut-butter-and-jelly versus tuna fish mix-up is corrected.
  • For Roth it is about power, not money; his "wise and considerate young man" really means Michael is a fool, and the scene plays differently on a second viewing.
  • Shirtless Roth came from Coppola meeting Elia Kazan, who declined the role but was not wearing a shirt at their meeting.
  • The banana daiquiri scene shows Michael never saw Fredo as an equal; it is called the most important scene rather than the most rewatchable.
  • Part II scenes grow painful, so the Geary scene is the most rewatchable, with Michael still the Michael of the first film defending his family.
  • Pentangeli drunk at the communion, blending Italian and English with "Cheech, aport," is a favorite rewatch that brings the old ways back into the room.
  • The Havana sequence has Michael realizing Fredo betrayed him at the sex club, intercut with the Roth assassination going sideways.
  • Roth's would-be assassin Bessetta wears one turtleneck outfit the whole film, even in Havana heat.
  • The book tells how Michael recruited Rocco Lampone and Al Neri, and the Havana assassin is assumed to be a Sicilian executioner, like Furio before Furio.
  • "I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart," with the kiss, is called the number one movie acknowledgment of betrayal; Coppola is the master of big noisy set pieces.
  • Vito killing Finucci during the festa is praised for the rooftops, the white suit to track him, the oranges, the light bulb and the towel over the gun.
  • Vito bringing home a single pear after losing his job and sharing it silently with his wife is a wordless moment that brings a viewer to tears every time.
  • Themes of what comes from the earth, including oranges, the pear, olive oil and wine, are purposeful; Gordon Willis fought with Coppola over actors moving within the frame.
  • In the Tahoe confrontation, Fredo could perhaps have saved himself by going straight to his brother the night of the assassination, but not by then.
  • Michael banishing Fredo is almost worse than killing him; another view never felt bad for Fredo, since Johnny Ola's call proves the betrayal.
  • Killing his brother is called the second-worst thing Michael does, behind having the innocent woman killed.
  • The abortion scene is defended as rewatchable and Pacino's greatest scene, rewatched almost daily; his face after "it was an abortion" is called the greatest five seconds in a movie.
  • Hagen must have known about the abortion because he would know the doctor Kay went to, which contributes to Michael's anger at him.
  • A hottest take calls the abortion Kay's only good scene and Kay the worst character, dumber than Fredo; others defend Diane Keaton as a great dramatic actress and cite her other scenes.
  • The abortion was Talia Shire's idea, and Coppola thanked her by adding her plea that Michael forgive Fredo.
  • Talia Shire is praised as a smart actress and for looking great in Rocky 3.
  • The Kay argument continues with Trump-style jokes about how many people agree.
  • Vito killing Don Chitio with the 18-inch knife prompts questions about whether a knife could do that.
  • Connie asking Michael to forgive Fredo ends with the hug and the menacing look to Al Neri.
  • Tom and Frankie's prison scene with the Roman emperors story is called perhaps the best acting and writing in the two films, shot through the fence until Frankie is left alone.
  • The scene ties to Clemenza talking about history and to Coppola's Patton script about warriors steeped in heritage, the idea that the empire ends.
  • The final three deaths are rewatchable: Roth's high-difficulty murder, Frankie in the bathtub, and Fredo killed on the lake during the Hail Mary.
  • The final flashback dinner is praised; the Sonny actor returned for the same pay, while Brando did not show up and the scene was rewritten, which is judged better.
  • The rug theft by Clemenza and Vito is another pick, as is the Don Roberto rent scene, with a nail in the door that the actor could not open.
  • The spaghetti scene shows Vito taking over from Clemenza.
  • The Senate hearing, where Pentangeli recants after his brother appears and Hagen yells for an apology, is highly watchable.
  • A final pick is the Senator Geary scene, which can be watched thousands of times.
  • Another final pick is the Havana sequence, specifically the Michael-Fredo cafe scene and the recreation of pre-revolution Havana.
  • Two more picks go to a Fredo and Michael scene; whether it is Cuba or Tahoe is left unclear.

What’s Aged the Best?

Young Pacino and young De Niro together; Merle; drapes shooting sequence; 'In my home' outburst; all things Fredo; Johnny Ola; Michael's IBM stock; Pentangeli's brother; Rocco Lampone; oranges; Gordon Willis photography; bathtub Roman-history scene; Talia Shire

In the discussion (20)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:35Read transcript
  • Young Pacino and young De Niro in the same movie; De Niro spent four months studying Brando, learned Sicilian and speaks about eight words of English.
  • De Niro had been cast as Paulie in the original and read for Sonny.
  • Merle asking for a drink in Michael's office and Michael saying "I don't know this Merle" in the third person; the hosts speculate about what Merle does for a living.
  • The drapes-and-gunfire sequence, Michael diving for cover and finding Rocco alive, is great.
  • Pacino's "In my home!" outburst shows his volume changes in their pure form.
  • Michael's advice about trying to think like the people around you is great life advice.
  • All things Fredo: his outfits, hot drunk wife, hair and fishing; he gets wins left and right unlike Kay.
  • Dominic Cheney as Johnny Ola starts a Sopranos lineage of casting from these films.
  • The Geary dead-woman scene is praised for Duvall, though one view says the idea has aged worst; Duvall is argued as possibly the best actor of his generation.
  • The scene shows the family is now doing the killing themselves, unlike the horse in Part I.
  • More entries include the daiquiri, Vito and Signor Roberto, and Michael's IBM stock.
  • Pentangeli's brother flying in from the old country and staring is the most Italian part of the movie.
  • Tom telling Michael he is staying, met with Michael being mean to him again, and the "anyone can be killed" line three years before JFK.
  • Rocco Lampone is underrated for two high-profile mob murders, including Roth.
  • The oranges are a literary echo; oranges reportedly represent memory and nostalgia to Sicilians.
  • Gordon Willis's photography, turn-of-the-century New York, the Ellis Island arrival and the recorder.
  • The top pick for one participant is the bathtub scene and its Roman history.
  • Another pick is the look of the film with Willis, plus De Niro and Pacino in their prime.
  • The 2012 Thunder comparison casts Kendrick Perkins as that team's Kay Corleone.
  • Talia Shire is added late: much better than in the first film, with an arc.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Kay Corleone; the dead sex worker used to frame Geary; Pacino's on-set demands; Willie Cicci; "Was it a boy?"; Rocco's Roth hit plan; cut Fabrizio revenge scene; Vito walking away from the Fanucci threat

In the discussion (11)
Approx. transcript time · 01:38:32Read transcript
  • The dead sex worker is read differently now than in the 70s and is called the thing that holds up the least; Michael has an innocent woman killed for leverage.
  • The Geary dead-woman idea is called what has aged worst, though Duvall's part in the scene is praised.
  • Pacino was reportedly difficult: he nearly dropped out, wanted a massive salary, complained about the script and the slow pace.
  • A tangent argues whether Serpico has aged poorly and whether Prince of the City is better; the Prince of the City take is rejected.
  • Willie Chichi is called a scumbag and the true betrayer; the actor is Joe Spinell, also in Rocky 2 and many grindhouse movies.
  • Michael asking "Was it a boy?" after hearing about the miscarriage marks him as evil.
  • Rocco's plan to kill Roth has no exit strategy; theories include a terminal diagnosis and an internet theory that Rocco left the drapes open.
  • A deleted scene where Michael takes revenge on Fabrizio should have stayed in the movie.
  • The opaque Roth-Pentangeli blame early on is raised, then defended as what makes the film rewatchable, and the objection is dropped.
  • Aiello's ad-libbed hello-from-Michael line is called the worst moment because it makes no sense, though it may twist the knife and it deepens the mystery.
  • Vito lets Finucci hold a knife to a girl's eye and walks away, which a modern hero would not do.
In the discussion (4)
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  • Yes: Clemenza is the tie to Vito and Bruno Kirby's young Clemenza, so a betrayal would feel weightier.
  • Against: Gazzo brings warmth and a crazy-uncle energy; audiences saw Clemenza kill people, so he would bring a different energy.
  • Duvall's absence is why the third film does not work; they should have paid him.
  • Frankie Five Angels creates his own character with an energy the rest of the film lacks.
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:52:07Read transcript
  • G.D. Spradlin is nominated for a five-year run of One on One, North Dallas Forty, this film and Apocalypse Now.
  • Bruno Kirby as young Clemenza and Roth's one-outfit assassin are also mentioned.
  • A personal choice is Frankie's brother from Italy, unforgettable with one look.
  • Fredo's wife Deanna, played by Marianna Hill, is another intended pick.
  • Frank Severo, Janko here and Carbone in Goodfellas, is praised along with his Instagram.

Apex Mountain

Coppola; Pacino; Gordon Willis; John Cazale; G.D. Spradlin; horrific Oscar results; movies; mafia movies

In the discussion (8)
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  • Coppola is a yes: he never had more power, getting the San Francisco opera and the Great Gatsby script.
  • De Niro is named without a verdict; Pacino gets a yes because this was his best performance and gave him the power to do anything.
  • Gordon Willis gets it for this film, though he did equal work in some Woody Allen films.
  • Cazale is a yes.
  • Lake Tahoe and Merle/Troy Donahue are raised without a clear verdict.
  • Spradlin is given Apex Mountain.
  • Paramount is proposed but questioned by pointing to Top Gun and the Transformers movies.
  • Horrific Oscar results are a yes, and Apex is given to movies and to mafia movies.
In the discussion (6)
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  • Coppola, as with the first film, confirmed as one of the ten most important filmmakers.
  • De Niro announced himself as the next major movie star, doing it all in Italian.
  • Lee Strasberg, a teacher who had not performed, lays down a performance that never seems overmatched next to Pacino, like Brad Stevens climbing onto the court.
  • Pacino, called the greatest performance ever seen and the first thing thought of with this movie.
  • A tangent asks whether Pacino resented De Niro becoming Brando's heir, comparing their later careers.
  • A zag picks Cazale and Duvall as the soul of the movie.
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