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Rewatchables episodes featuring Rob Lowe’s films
Mentioned in discussions
In the discussion (4)
- Timothy Hutton reportedly declined Joel for Daniel; Rob Lowe claimed he declined it, and Sean Penn, John Cusack, Kevin Bacon and Tom Hanks are among reported auditioners. One additional name is unclear in the transcript. — Bill Simmons
- Michelle Pfeiffer reportedly declined Lana; Sharon Stone, Kim Basinger and Brooke Shields are named as alternatives, but the Basinger claim is treated skeptically. — Bill Simmons
- The Michael J. Fox rumor is strongly rejected as a poor fit; Pfeiffer's fame and different sensuality would also change the film. — Bill Simmons
- Frank Sinatra was allegedly considered for Guido, with age and physical demands cited against him; the host does not believe the story. — Bill Simmons
Recasting Couch
New lead fembot; new Irish henchman
In the discussion (7)
- Replacing Robert Wagner is floated, but the casting pays off when Rob Lowe is put in as Number Two, a Robert Wagner 2.0. — Bill Simmons
- A point is started about the gentleman who played Random Task. — Chris Ryan
- That actor is called a complicated figure, to be covered later. — Bill Simmons
- An actress named on air as Ali Larder is proposed as the lead fembot; the fembots needed one future star, and Helen Mirren is jokingly suggested. — Bill Simmons
- It is odd the role did not go to Pamela Anderson; Cindy Margolis was the lower-tier version at the time, and someone reportedly auditioned for a part, perhaps Elizabeth Hurley's. — Bill Simmons
- Heather Graham as the lead fembot would have cost the sequel Felicity Shagwell. — Bill Simmons
- The Irish henchman (the Lucky Charms guy) should be replaced by a young host then working at Newbury Comics; Bono is joked about, and edgy British method actors such as Gary Oldman or Tim Roth are proposed.
Recasting Couch
Robert Wagner as Dr. Beeper; Rob Lowe as Dr. Beeper
In the discussion (3)
- Robert Wagner is thrown out for Dr. Beeper, a pick called a heat check, with a joke about the timeline of his marriage to Natalie Wood. — Bill Simmons
- Fifteen years later Dr. Beeper is Rob Lowe, "100%"; Lowe could even be Smales now, known to a new generation from Parks and Rec. — Bill Simmons
- Ted Knight would never be recast; Harvey Corman (as transcribed) could have done the haughty part, Norman Fell would not be big enough, and Ted Danson would probably be Smales 15 years later, though it is a hard part to cast. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (5)
- Answers offered as jokes: the backing band the New Breed (ruled ineligible) and New York City getting prime Billy Hicks years. — Chris Ryan
- Billy moving to New York in 1985 to clean up is hilarious, and is compared to Beautiful Girls. — Chris Ryan
- Two finalists: Judd Nelson is enjoyable in every scene, but it is Rob Lowe or Demi Moore, with Moore's star-making performance feeling like a real person. — Bill Simmons
- Asked if a tie is a cop-out, the reply is that they have tied before; Demi Moore and Rob Lowe are named co-winners, with About Last Night as a payoff. — Bill Simmons
- Lowe had the best role of his career at 20, the right age for the part. — Bill Simmons
Podcast choices
Apex Mountain
Judd Nelson; Ally Sheedy; John Parr; Jeep CJ7; Georgetown
In the discussion (9)
- Rob Lowe: his peak is About Last Night the following year. — Bill Simmons
- Judd Nelson: yes, coming off Breakfast Club; the peak went down, but yes. — Bill Simmons
- Andrew McCarthy: his peak is Weekend at Bernie's or Mannequin. — Bill Simmons
- Demi Moore: no way; her own apex was not A Few Good Men, G.I. Jane is floated, and signing the record Striptease contract is probably it. — Bill Simmons
- Ally Sheedy: yes. — Bill Simmons
- Emilio: no; probably Young Guns or Stakeout. — Bill Simmons
- John Parr: yes. — Bill Simmons
- The CJ7 the friends drive around Georgetown to pick everybody up: yes, an incredible car. — Bill Simmons
- Georgetown is called a big one, citing this movie and, per the hosts, Patrick Ewing winning the title this year. — Bill Simmons
Half-Assed Internet Research
Universal back-lot bar street; the Tombs as the model bar; cast partying; Georgetown filming refusal; shower-door accident; Lowe learning sax; McCarthy feeling apart
In the discussion (8)
- Per the hosts' research, the bar's street was on the Universal back lot, near the Back to the Future clock tower. — Bill Simmons
- Per the hosts, the bar was based on the Tombs (transcribed 'Tumes'), a Georgetown hangout one host visited in the early 90s, which looked similar. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say the five partied a lot, and that Estevez and Moore got engaged and made Wisdom, which he directed and which bombed. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say Georgetown would not permit filming, so the production used the University of Maryland; per Gora's book, a priest answered Schumacher's Exorcist jab by saying God wins in The Exorcist. — Bill Simmons
- Per the hosts' research, Lowe had Lakers courtside tickets and a new Porsche. — Bill Simmons
- Per the hosts' research, the shower door breaking in the Sheedy-McCarthy scene was an accident; per McCarthy in the book, Schumacher's crude outburst made Sheedy cry, which would be a bigger deal in 2020. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say Lowe learned the sax, though some moments show he is not playing. — Bill Simmons
- McCarthy is quoted from the book saying he always felt apart from the group; he is judged a bad hang, and Judd Nelson is preferred. — Bill Simmons
Casting What-Ifs
Anthony Edwards; Lea Thompson; Emilio Estevez as Billy; C. Thomas Howell as Kirby; Robert Downey Jr. as Billy; Charlie Sheen; Jenny Wright as Jules
In the discussion (11)
- The hosts say hundreds were interviewed, with Anthony Edwards and Lea Thompson (transcribed 'Leah Thompson') coming close. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say Schumacher had to push for the three Breakfast Club actors, and that Emilio wanted to play Billy (called a potential disaster) before settling for Kirby. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say C. Thomas Howell (transcribed 'See Thomas Howe') auditioned for Kirby but was too young, and that Rob Lowe was only 20 when cast as Billy. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say Robert Downey Jr. was considered for Billy before Lowe won it after three auditions; one host loves Lowe as Billy and still sees Downey as Kevin as the sweet spot. — Bill Simmons
- Emilio's Kirby is like his Breakfast Club character five years later, yet he had one of the better careers with Young Guns, his own films and Stakeout. — Chris Ryan
- Charlie Sheen is called a bit too young and reportedly skipped his audition; one host says he could have played Alec, as he basically does in Wall Street. — Chris Ryan
- The hosts say Demi Moore was cast after Schumacher saw her storm out of a John Hughes audition on the Columbia lot; she was on General Hospital, which one host watched. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say that when Moore went to rehab, moving Jenny Wright into the role of Jules was discussed. — Bill Simmons
- Madonna stories are uncertain; Madonna as Jules is a good runner-up, but Moore was perfect, and Madonna may not have managed the Jeep scene, possibly Moore's best acting. — Chris Ryan
- Mid-80s ensembles seem to have had about 40 actors going up for the same eight parts. — Chris Ryan
- Linda Hamilton was rumored for a role, maybe Jules or the Ally Sheedy part. — Chris Ryan
What’s Aged the Best?
Opening credits; theme music; David Foster soundtrack; the Andrew McCarthy impersonation it inspired; the title; Jules; the apartments; the record-splitting breakup; Billy's tie-wearing
In the discussion (12)
- The opening credits and music are repeated; the hosts say the soundtrack was David Foster's first, and that he later made a fortune and appeared on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say Foster co-wrote the St. Elmo's Fire song with John Parr, and agree it was the number-one song in America. — Bill Simmons
- The movie, the bar and the song are all called St. Elmo's Fire, and nobody in the film acknowledges it. — Bill Simmons
- A comic's Andrew McCarthy impersonation (transcribed 'Jay Moore') was lifted from this movie and still gets a laugh. — Bill Simmons
- The title is great; the hosts say Columbia hated it and sent a 35-page memo, with Sparks and The Real World as alternatives. — Bill Simmons
- Billy's St. Elmo's Fire speech to Jules works the title in and is read aloud, but it is mocked as beyond Billy's seven brain cells and, per the hosts, Rob Lowe has called it embarrassing. — Bill Simmons
- Jules is one of the best 80s characters; everybody either was a Jules or knew one, and one host was always all in on Jules in his 20s. — Bill Simmons
- Jules's career-plan speech turns out to be a real career plan; in a sequel she might co-host The View or run a family reality empire like Jenner. — Bill Simmons
- All the apartments have aged the best, including Alec and Leslie's loft with its marathon image. — Chris Ryan
- Dividing records in the breakup was accurate for a time when people owned about 20 records, like a fantasy draft. — Chris Ryan
- Billy Hicks's loose tie-wearing is a controversial pick said to be ready for a comeback; the other host agrees. — Bill Simmons
- Billy's wet-look hair is called both aged best and aged worst. — Bill Simmons
Most Rewatchable Scene
Billy's saxophone scene
In the discussion (13)
- The opening credits are listed first for the theme music. — Bill Simmons
- The first St. Elmo's bar scene is listed for its cheesy 80s music and everyone in their habitat, including Judd Nelson dunking Rob Lowe in the water. — Bill Simmons
- The short first Jeep scene is listed for the iconic exchange about the three-year Georgetown Young Democrats chief working for a Republican: "Moving up, Kerbo." — Bill Simmons
- The scene of Billy on the roof at the Mare Winningham character's house (transcribed 'Mayor Winningham') is listed. — Bill Simmons
- Kirby's party at Kim's house and Jules and Billy in the car, ending with "You break my heart. Then again, you break everyone's heart," are listed; the car line is called devastating. — Bill Simmons
- Leslie moving out of Alec's apartment and dividing the records ("No Springsteen is leaving this house") is listed, with Nelson described as completely out of control.
- The vote is Billy's big sax scene, with "no other question". — Bill Simmons
- Also liked: the Kevin and Leslie hookup confession ("Am I part of your props?") and Kevin and Kirby's apartment talk when Billy shows up needing a place to crash; but there is really no competition with Billy Hicks and the New Breed on Halloween night. — Chris Ryan
- The band's song seems to have only the lyric "One love", leaving the band standing around during Billy's long solo. — Chris Ryan
- Whether Billy is a serious musician is unclear; he fronts Billy Hicks and the New Breed but at Georgetown seemed mostly to father children and play rugby. — Chris Ryan
- Schumacher's The Lost Boys also has a long sax-solo scene; Clarence Clemons (transcribed 'Clemens') and Eddie and the Cruisers are floated as the influence, and nobody ever picked a bar for its sax player. — Bill Simmons
- The "Let's rock" clap-along after the solo brings joy, and Billy's estranged wife arriving with a very 80s date leads to a fight outside the bar, called a great five minutes. — Bill Simmons
- Jules's fire-escape rescue and Alec hanging Kevin over the fire escape are added as scenes that probably belonged in this category. — Bill Simmons
Picking Nits
Driving without a driver's door; unclear season; no background check on the fiancée; the fiancée's weight-camp grift; instant order hacking
In the discussion (5)
- Driving the highway without a driver's side door would be harder and scarier than shown. — Bill Simmons
- The season is unclear: turning leaves versus convertible weather, when Farley would be far sweatier. — Bill Simmons
- A rich Tommy Sr. should have run a background check on his fiancée; she met him at a weight-loss camp, an odd grift, and her son is only a few years younger. — Bill Simmons
- Hacking Julie Warner's computer and changing hundreds of orders in a minute is implausible for a character who can't shoot out a tire.
- It leads to a favorite moment where the chute rips Lowe's shirt off and he exits shirtless.
In the discussion (6)
- The hosts report Lowe is uncredited; filming The Stand, he felt weird about another movie but did it because he loved Farley; Farley did his own stunts. — Bill Simmons
- They relay Spade's story: after Spade drank with Lowe, a jealous Farley kept needling him, Spade threw a Diet Coke, Farley threw him against a wall and down stairs, and Spade walked off; they often communicated through the director. — Bill Simmons
- Another version says Farley was too sick to go out, was upset when they went without him, and crushed Spade's tuna sandwich. — Cousin Sal
- Bo Derek was reportedly nominated for a Razzie for Worst Supporting Actress. — Bill Simmons
- The hosts say the woman in the pool was Lori Bagley, whom both Spade and Farley later dated, causing tension on Black Sheep. — Bill Simmons
- They report the working title Billy the Third: A Midwestern was changed because of Billy Madison, with Fat Chance, XL and Rocky Road also considered; Tommy Boy is called the perfect name. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (4)
- Aykroyd could make a case for the heat-check award and arguably wins it. — Bill Simmons
- Uncertain who wins; Aykroyd could since he jumps off the screen, though it is not a favorite performance. — Bill Simmons
- Rob Lowe is suggested, with the eligibility question that he has only about four scenes; the cow-tipping scene is funny.
- If eligible, Rob Lowe is declared the winner. — Cousin Sal
Films in the archive
About Last Night
1986
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
1999
St. Elmo's Fire
1985
Tommy Boy
1995
Wayne's World
1992

