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“It’s not finished until you type it up”

Bill Simmons: “It’s not finished until you type it up” is offered as a life lesson and compared with the idea that movies are abandoned rather than finished.

The film

Zodiac (2007)

Directed by David Fincher · Crime

157 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Jake Gyllenhaal Robert Graysmith
Mark Ruffalo Inspector Dave Toschi
Robert Downey Jr. Paul Avery
Anthony Edwards Inspector Bill Armstrong
Brian Cox Melvin Belli
Charles Fleischer Bob Vaughn
Zach Grenier Mel Nicolai
Philip Baker Hall Sherwood Morrill
Elias Koteas Sergeant Jack Mulanax
James LeGros Detective George Bawart
Donal Logue Captain Ken Narlow
John Carroll Lynch Arthur Leigh Allen
Dermot Mulroney Captain Marty Lee
Chloë Sevigny Melanie Graysmith
John Terry Charles Thieriot
June Diane Raphael Carol Toschi
Ciara Moriarty Darlene Ferrin
Adam Goldberg Duffy Jennings
Tom Verica Jim Dunbar
Lee Norris Mike Mageau
Jimmi Simpson Older Mike Mageau
Joel Bissonnette Inspector Kracke
John Getz Templeton Peck
John Mahon Captain Gillette
Matt Winston John Allen
Jules Bruff Catherine Allen
John Ennis Terry Pascoe
Patrick Scott Lewis Bryan Hartnell
Pell James Cecelia Shepard
Clea DuVall Linda del Buono
Zachary Sauers Aaron Graysmith
Micah Sauers David Graysmith
Candy Clark Carol Fisher
Paul Schulze Sandy Panzarella
John Hemphill Donald Cheney
Ed Setrakian Al Hyman
Bob Stephenson Zodiac 3
John Lacy Zodiac 4

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

1:51:35

Is There a Porn Parody of This Movie?

The Zodiac Killer starring John Holmes

The Zodiac Killer starring John Holmes

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 01:51:35Read transcript
  • The category asks whether the movie has a porn parody. — Craig Horlbeck
  • The title The Zodiac Killer and John Holmes are identified.
  • The premise casts Holmes as a cop hunting a killer.
  • Its 63-minute runtime is compared with the Century Club benchmark.
1:52:32

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

The Zodiac is judged surprisingly bad at his job because victims survive and he leaves conspicuous clues.

The Zodiac is judged surprisingly bad at his job because victims survive and he leaves conspicuous clues.

Flex pick · Craig Horlbeck

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:52:32Read transcript
2:01:21

The Rick Dalton Award for the Greatest Fucking Acting I’ve Ever Seen

Robert Downey Jr.’s houseboat performance

Robert Downey Jr.’s houseboat performance

Flex pick · Bill Simmons

In the discussion (3)
Approx. transcript time · 02:01:21Read transcript
  • Downey’s delivery of “somebody should write a book” is singled out.
  • His physical acting on the houseboat is praised.
  • The scene’s exposed, disheveled presentation strengthens the performance.
2:14:43

The Action Is the Juice Award for Best Milking of the Moment

John Carroll Lynch going toe to toe with Mark Ruffalo

John Carroll Lynch going toe to toe with Mark Ruffalo

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 02:14:43Read transcript
2:14:57

The Dan Campbell Scale for “Holy Shit, Are They Really Going for It Right Now?”

The basement scene

The basement scene

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 02:14:57Read transcript

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