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Lecter is a superb therapist

Lecter is called an incredible therapist for rapidly identifying and resolving Clarice’s childhood trauma.

Catherine is said to deserve death because she endangered Precious; the take is tied to the participant’s animal-first stance.

The film

The Silence of the Lambs (1991)

Directed by Jonathan Demme · Horror

118 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Jodie Foster Clarice Starling
Anthony Hopkins Dr. Hannibal Lecter
Scott Glenn Jack Crawford
Ted Levine Jame "Buffalo Bill" Gumb
Anthony Heald Dr. Frederick Chilton
Brooke Smith Catherine Martin
Diane Baker U.S. Senator Ruth Martin
Kasi Lemmons Ardelia Mapp
Charles Napier Lt. Bill Boyle

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

31:20

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Buffalo Bill’s multi-room dungeon

Buffalo Bill’s multi-room dungeon

In the discussion (1)
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  • The dungeon is selected after the earlier room-by-room discussion of its frightening layout. — Bill Simmons
35:35

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ebert is reported as giving three and a half stars, praising the palpable evil of Hopkins’s first appearance and the film’s suspense and restraint despite flaws. — Bill Simmons
  • Siskel is reported as disliking the film and preferring to see Clarice on another case. — Chris Ryan
38:05

Most Rewatchable Scene

Split: Lecter killing the guards (two choices); Clarice recounting the lambs; the first Clarice–Lecter meeting

Split: Lecter killing the guards (two choices); Clarice recounting the lambs; the first Clarice–Lecter meeting

In the discussion (9)
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  • Clarice’s first descent to Lecter, his instant psychological reading, the fava-beans line, and Miggs’s assault are nominated; one participant selects it.
  • Catherine Martin singing “American Girl,” helping Gumb with the sofa, and being abducted are nominated.
  • Gumb ordering Catherine to use the lotion, combined with the revelation of the bloody fingernail, is nominated for its simultaneous terror and dark comedy. — Mallory Rubin
  • Lecter meeting Senator Martin while restrained and masked is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Clarice’s final quid-pro-quo meeting with Lecter, including her lamb story and his lesson about coveting, is nominated; one participant selects the lamb confession.
  • Lecter’s attack on the guards, staging of the bodies, face disguise, and ambulance escape are nominated; two participants select the sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Gumb’s dance intercut with Catherine capturing Precious is nominated. — Mallory Rubin
  • The cross-cut raid and Clarice’s realization that she is inside Gumb’s actual house are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Clarice’s night-vision basement pursuit and killing of Gumb are nominated for suspense, foreshadowing, and payoff.
1:04:28

The most 1991 thing

Chris Isaak’s conspicuous SWAT cameo

Chris Isaak’s conspicuous SWAT cameo

In the discussion (5)
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  • Dr. Chilton immediately hitting on Clarice is presented as conduct that would not survive modern workplace norms. — Bill Simmons
  • Senator Martin’s hairstyle is identified with early-1990s public-figure styling. — Bill Simmons
  • The profiling-led investigation’s minimal reliance on DNA is period-specific. — Bill Simmons
  • A young woman helping a strange man load furniture into a van is judged implausible today. — Bill Simmons
  • Chris Isaak’s close-up cameo immediately after the “Wicked Game” video is selected as the most 1991 element. — Bill Simmons
1:05:50

What’s Aged the Best?

Jonathan Demme’s framing and editing, the poster and score, Easter eggs, antagonist construction, and compact runtime

Jonathan Demme’s framing and editing, the poster and score, Easter eggs, antagonist construction, and compact runtime

In the discussion (8)
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  • Dr. Chilton works as a human institutional antagonist alongside the overt killers, like the obstructive authority figures in Jaws and Poltergeist.
  • Direct-to-camera framing, glass reflections, Howard Shore’s score, needle drops, and the poster remain formally distinctive. — Mallory Rubin
  • Whiteboards, notebooks, microfiche articles, bulletin boards, and dungeon details reward pausing and close viewing. — Mallory Rubin
  • Structural changes, especially removing the disciplinary-hearing sequence and repositioning the training drill, made the movie tighter. — Bill Simmons
  • Cannibal fascination is said to remain culturally potent.
  • The movie’s apparent ending followed by Lecter’s coda is praised. — Bill Simmons
  • The point-of-view close-ups, Lecter’s mask and stretcher, “quid pro quo,” clear-glass cell, and night-vision imagery remain iconic. — Bill Simmons
  • The film’s coveting clue and its disciplined sub-two-hour length are praised. — Bill Simmons
1:12:19

The most GIFable moment

Gumb’s tuck dance

Gumb’s tuck dance

In the discussion (3)
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  • Charles Napier’s scream after Lecter attacks is nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Lecter’s smelling gesture is nominated.
  • The tuck dance is selected with emphatic audience support. — Chris Ryan
1:13:04

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Lecter’s angel-like staging of Lieutenant Boyle’s body

Lecter’s angel-like staging of Lieutenant Boyle’s body

In the discussion (2)
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  • The guard’s body spread like an angel or butterfly above the cell is the selected cinematic image. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel questions how Lecter raised, tied, and arranged the body while also staging the second guard on the elevator. — Chris Ryan
1:15:17

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

“Goodbye Horses”

“Goodbye Horses”

In the discussion (3)
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  • “American Girl” is praised as an essential setup for Catherine Martin.
  • “Goodbye Horses” is selected as the iconic musical moment.
  • The Fall’s “Hip Priest” during the basement sequence is added as a third candidate.
1:15:59

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Lecter’s extra-rare lamb chops

Lecter’s extra-rare lamb chops

In the discussion (1)
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  • The second dinner’s ultra-rare lamb chops are the only proposed answer. — Bill Simmons
1:15:59

Brandy Booth Award for Best Performance by a Pet

Darla

Darla

In the discussion (1)
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  • Precious is identified as performed by Darla, whose credits also include Pee-wee’s Big Adventure, The ’Burbs, and Batman Returns. — Bill Simmons
1:16:36

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Jack Crawford

Jack Crawford

In the discussion (2)
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  • The anagram puzzle chain is criticized as either too prominent or insufficiently developed, though another participant enjoys the layered clues. — Mallory Rubin
  • Jack Crawford is selected for sending an inexperienced trainee to Lecter, offering a transparent fake deal, missing the first-victim relationship, raiding the wrong house, and leaving Clarice poorly supported. — Bill Simmons
1:18:54

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Jack Crawford

Jack Crawford

In the discussion (1)
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  • The same Crawford case is explicitly said to double as this job-competence award. — Bill Simmons
1:21:38

What’s Aged the Worst?

The mishandled sequel/prequel franchise, opening typography, profiling pseudoscience, political appropriation of Lect...

The mishandled sequel/prequel franchise, opening typography, profiling pseudoscience, political appropriation of Lecter, Foster’s accent, and trans implications

In the discussion (7)
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  • The Hannibal novel’s Clarice–Lecter relationship repelled Jodie Foster; the later film rewrite and aging Hopkins prequel are treated as franchise mistakes. — Bill Simmons
  • The large opening-credit typography blocking faces is criticized as an early-1990s aesthetic problem. — Bill Simmons
  • Criminal profiling is described as much less reliable than the film assumes. — Chris Ryan
  • Donald Trump’s 2024 references to Hannibal Lecter are identified as a degrading later association. — Bill Simmons
  • Jodie Foster’s accent remains an explicit weakness. — Chris Ryan
  • Serial killers communicating through neat anagrams is judged dated, though the panel misses the puzzle theatricality.
  • The film’s failure to make Demme’s intended distinction between Gumb and trans identity clear enough is preserved as a serious contemporary criticism. — Bill Simmons
1:26:04

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

No single winner: Charles Napier, Anthony Heald, and Brooke Smith

No single winner: Charles Napier, Anthony Heald, and Brooke Smith

In the discussion (3)
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1:26:38

Mallory Rubin Award: Did This Movie Need a Better Sex Scene?

No conventional two-person sex scene; a solo Miggs webisode (jokingly)

No conventional two-person sex scene; a solo Miggs webisode (jokingly)

In the discussion (1)
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  • A mock bonus episode centered on Miggs’s self-gratification is proposed as the only sexual extension.
1:28:11

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No replacement title

No replacement title

In the discussion (1)
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  • A joking Miggs-related title is floated only after the unanimous refusal and is not adopted.
1:28:26

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Lecter is a superb therapist; Catherine deserved punishment for endangering Precious; Hopkins’s Oscar category was fr...

Lecter is a superb therapist; Catherine deserved punishment for endangering Precious; Hopkins’s Oscar category was fraudulent; The Father is his better performance

In the discussion (4)
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  • Lecter is called an incredible therapist for rapidly identifying and resolving Clarice’s childhood trauma.
  • Catherine is said to deserve death because she endangered Precious; the take is tied to the participant’s animal-first stance.
  • Hopkins’s Best Actor Oscar is called fraudulent because he should have competed in supporting. — Chris Ryan
  • The Father is proposed as Hopkins’s greatest performance, drawing strong disagreement.
1:30:20

Casting What-Ifs

Hackman and Connery for Lecter or Crawford; Pfeiffer and others for Clarice; Ed Harris for Crawford; several alleged ...

Hackman and Connery for Lecter or Crawford; Pfeiffer and others for Clarice; Ed Harris for Crawford; several alleged Lecter auditions (some uncertain)

In the discussion (7)
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1:34:05

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Brooke Smith

Brooke Smith

In the discussion (5)
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1:35:37

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Buffalo Bill

Buffalo Bill

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel lists a deep field of memorable limited appearances but calls Buffalo Bill the obvious winner. — Bill Simmons
1:36:13

Recasting Couch

No performance recast; Baltimore rather than Pittsburgh as the filming location

No performance recast; Baltimore rather than Pittsburgh as the filming location

In the discussion (1)
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  • The category is explicitly framed as “director or city,” and the sole change discussed is restoring Baltimore as the principal filming location. — Bill Simmons
1:36:49

What Would Tony Romo’s Director’s Commentary for This Movie Sound Like?

Doris Burke

Doris Burke

In the discussion (4)
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  • A Chris Collinsworth call is performed using Patrick Mahomes-style praise for Gumb’s preparation. — Chris Ryan
  • A Tony Romo call is performed around the tuck and “Goodbye Horses.”
  • Doris Burke is explicitly selected for an analytical call of Gumb’s long preparation. — Bill Simmons
  • Joe Buck is proposed for five-word scene descriptions. — Bill Simmons
1:38:59

Half-Assed Internet Research

Lecter’s hockey-mask maker, Gumb’s house sale, serial-killer inspirations, Brooke Smith’s preparation, Francis Bacon ...

Lecter’s hockey-mask maker, Gumb’s house sale, serial-killer inspirations, Brooke Smith’s preparation, Francis Bacon imagery, and the Bahamas finale

In the discussion (6)
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  • Lecter’s mask was reportedly made by New Jersey hockey-goalie mask maker Ed Cubberly. — Bill Simmons
  • The Gumb house in Perryopolis, Pennsylvania reportedly listed for $300,000 in 2015 and sold for $195,000 in 2016. — Bill Simmons
  • Gumb’s skin suit is linked to Ed Gein and the basement pit to Gary Heidnik. — Bill Simmons
  • Brooke Smith reportedly gained 25 pounds and became friendly with Ted Levine during production; a prop worker later sent her the lotion bottle with a Gumb note. — Bill Simmons
  • Boyle’s staged body was reportedly inspired by Francis Bacon. — Bill Simmons
  • Lecter’s final scene was filmed on North Bimini Island in the Bahamas. — Bill Simmons
1:41:14

Apex Mountain

Jonathan Demme, Anthony Hopkins, Q Lazzarus, face-wearing, and Chris Isaak

Jonathan Demme, Anthony Hopkins, Q Lazzarus, face-wearing, and Chris Isaak

In the discussion (8)
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  • Jonathan Demme is accepted because he won Best Director for a superior film to Philadelphia.
  • Anthony Hopkins is accepted, with jokes about later cat TikToks and The Father.
  • Serial-killer movies are debated against Seven and Zodiac without a final resolution.
  • Q Lazzarus is accepted for “Goodbye Horses.”
  • Wearing another person’s face is accepted, while The Texas Chain Saw Massacre and Face/Off are discussed as rivals. — Chris Ryan
  • Chris Isaak is accepted as plausibly at his commercial/cultural peak around “Wicked Game” and this cameo. — Bill Simmons
  • Francis Bacon homages, ordering lamb chops rare, Ted Levine, night vision, the tuck dance, and the 1979 Dodge Tradesman Maxi Van are all proposed or accepted. — Bill Simmons
  • Poodles are proposed, then rejected in favor of Best in Show. — Chris Ryan
1:45:10

Cruise or Hanks?

Tom Cruise

Tom Cruise

In the discussion (3)
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  • Cruise is argued to have the unsettling intensity for Lecter and the range to play every male role. — Bill Simmons
  • Hanks is proposed as an excellent Crawford who might improve that part.
  • The panel explicitly settles on Cruise.
1:47:44

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

“Tuck Dance”

“Tuck Dance”

In the discussion (4)
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  • “Lotion in the Basket” is initially proposed and briefly called the pick. — Bill Simmons
  • “Tuck Dance” is then selected as the best possible racehorse name.
  • “Hester Mofet” is nominated as another racehorse name. — Bill Simmons
  • “Louis Friend” is diverted into a proposed hotel check-in alias rather than the racehorse result. — Chris Ryan
1:48:30

Picking Nits

Chilton’s pen, Catherine’s food, missed moth evidence, Lecter’s elaborate escape, profiling by personal acquaintance,...

Chilton’s pen, Catherine’s food, missed moth evidence, Lecter’s elaborate escape, profiling by personal acquaintance, Precious’s capture, Miggs’s death, Lecter’s wine pairing and moral code, and Gumb’s target selection

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  • Chilton imposes exhaustive safety rules and then leaves a sharp pen with Lecter. — Chris Ryan
  • Gumb is supposedly starving Catherine to loosen her skin, yet she has enough food and bone to lure Precious. — Mallory Rubin
  • Investigators miss cocoons in multiple throats and fail to infer a skin suit from systematically removed body areas. — Mallory Rubin
  • The most dangerous prisoner receives only two guards and no visible camera surveillance. — Bill Simmons
  • Lecter fits perfectly into a guard’s clothes, removes his face cleanly, raises and stages the second body, and fools medical professionals while healthy.
  • Lecter’s apparent profiling insight is weakened because he already knew Gumb as a patient. — Chris Ryan
  • Catherine’s off-screen bucket capture of a small, skittish dog is treated as mechanically improbable. — Bill Simmons
  • Miggs cannot physically swallow his own tongue without first severing it. — Bill Simmons
  • Chianti is criticized as the wrong wine for liver and fava beans. — Bill Simmons
  • Lecter’s disgust at Miggs’s sexual assault seems inconsistent with his own cannibalism, though the panel frames it as a strict code against rudeness. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel asks whether Gumb knowingly chose a senator’s daughter for notoriety or failed to recognize her. — Chris Ryan
1:55:27

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

The property already has a sequel, prequel, and two television series; the panel notes the absence of a Miggs or Buff...

The property already has a sequel, prequel, and two television series; the panel notes the absence of a Miggs or Buffalo Bill prequel.

This discussion recalls a choice from an earlier episode.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hannibal, Red Dragon/Hannibal Rising, Hannibal, and Clarice are treated as filling the standard franchise options. — Bill Simmons
  • A Miggs or Buffalo Bill origin story is jokingly identified as the remaining gap. — Bill Simmons
1:55:57

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wayne Jenkins (closing choice); Byron Mayo (another preference)

Wayne Jenkins (closing choice); Byron Mayo (another preference)

In the discussion (2)
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1:56:58

Just One Oscar

Split: Jodie Foster; Anthony Hopkins; Best Picture

Split: Jodie Foster; Anthony Hopkins; Best Picture

In the discussion (3)
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1:57:38

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Miggs’s name, Lecter’s cannibalism, Gumb’s music, victim pets, Chilton’s fate, personnel consequences, Precious’s cus...

Miggs’s name, Lecter’s cannibalism, Gumb’s music, victim pets, Chilton’s fate, personnel consequences, Precious’s custody, and whether Gumb invented Pinterest

In the discussion (10)
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  • Is Miggs a first name, surname, nickname, shortening of Miguel, or a single mononym? — Bill Simmons
  • If Lecter is a genius, why does he eat people, and are we sure cannibalism is bad? — Bill Simmons
  • How did Gumb develop discerning taste in Q Lazzarus and the Fall while living his isolated life?
  • Did all of Gumb’s victims own cats? — Mallory Rubin
  • How would Lecter season and serve Dr. Chilton? — Mallory Rubin
  • How quickly were the moth experts fired for workplace misconduct? — Bill Simmons
  • What could Lecter have said to make Miggs kill himself? — Bill Simmons
  • Did Senator Martin win reelection after rescuing her daughter? — Bill Simmons
  • Did Catherine keep Precious, or did animal services place the dog elsewhere?
  • Did Gumb’s wall of design inspirations effectively invent Pinterest?
2:02:23

Best Double Feature

Manhunter (two preferences); Zodiac (another pick)
In the discussion (2)
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  • Manhunter is proposed and immediately seconded. — Bill Simmons
  • Zodiac is proposed as the alternative, acknowledged as an exceptionally dark combined viewing.
2:02:39

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Imagined futures: Precious is rehomed; Lecter eats Chilton and visits Epstein Island; Clarice and Crawford start a fa...

Imagined futures: Precious is rehomed; Lecter eats Chilton and visits Epstein Island; Clarice and Crawford start a family, or Clarice dates a moth expert

In the discussion (4)
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  • Precious is removed from Catherine and placed in a loving home. — Chris Ryan
  • Lecter eats Dr. Chilton and heads toward Epstein Island. — Chris Ryan
  • Clarice and Crawford start a family. — Chris Ryan
  • Clarice dates one of the moth specialists instead, a proposal another participant dislikes.
2:03:23

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The lotion and basket

The lotion and basket

In the discussion (6)
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  • Both Lecter masks, including the less comfortable nose-compressing version, are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The night-vision goggles are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The lotion bottle and Lecter’s drawing of Clarice holding the lamb are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The nightstick used to kill Lieutenant Boyle is nominated.
  • An entire FBI practice town and a moth cocoon are added.
  • The lotion paired with its basket is selected as the final package.
2:05:19

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Never help a creepy stranger move furniture into a van.

Never help a creepy stranger move furniture into a van.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The panel explicitly frames Catherine’s abduction as a lesson against helping an isolated stranger load furniture. — Bill Simmons
2:05:34

Who Won the Movie?

Anthony Hopkins

Anthony Hopkins

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More from the conversation

The live panel debates horror versus thriller classification, argues that the film mainstreamed true-crime profiling and serial-killer fascination, and identifies Hannibal Lecter as an unusually rootable villain.
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Anthony Hopkins’s Lecter construction, 24-minute screen presence, leading-versus-supporting Oscar placement, and transformation into a bankable star receive extended discussion.
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Jodie Foster’s performance is praised for making Clarice a determined, interior protagonist navigating powerful men; the accent and the film’s psychological-horror method remain points of debate.
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Ted Levine’s James Gumb performance, the dungeon design, “Goodbye Horses” dance, serial-killer inspirations, and omission from Oscar nominations are discussed at length.
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The film is interpreted as an end-of-Reagan-era story about repressed American demons returning through failed institutions and American iconography.
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The panel records contemporary criticism of the film’s trans implications and Jonathan Demme’s regret that his intended distinction was not clear, connecting the response to his later choice to make Philadelphia.
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Producer Craig Horlbeck’s closing review praises the film as a prestige thriller whose restraint around gore keeps its suspense effective and durable.
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