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The chase: Mitch summoned to the partners after taking Avery's files, Tarrance's 'get out of there' call, and the escape through Memphis

The chase is the one pick: Mitch takes files from Avery's office, is stopped for a word, Brimley comes down, and the Ed Harris 'get out of there' call starts a fifteen-minute stretch the host watches every time, with Cruise running, jumping onto a truck that happens to carry pillows, riding the tram and hanging on while the two hitmen chase him; it carries the movie and is Sidney Pollack doing Three Days of the Condor twenty years later.

The scene where Mitch guesses his salary is a minor but good dramatic scene, one of the few that shows his intellect at work, and the hosts play the clip; the final maneuver that turns the ending into a court proceeding with Lambert as judge and Lamar as defense lawyer is also loved.

"It's amazing how much you miss the sky"

Nominated lines: Ray's 'it's amazing how much you miss the sky', DeVasher's 'what do you think I am, the fucking night watchman', Mitch's line about Harvard and jail both ending up surrounded by crooks, and every Ed Harris line, including the 'chicken shit little Harvard cocksucker' speech played as a clip; one host's favorite is 'we'll take those steak sandwiches to go', and Harris is called a candidate for the overacting award too.

The film

The Firm (1993)

Directed by Sydney Pollack · Thriller / Drama

154 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Tom Cruise Mitch McDeere , a promising recent Harvard Law graduate
Jeanne Tripplehorn Abby McDeere, Mitch's wife
Gene Hackman Avery Tolar, Mitch's mentor at the Firm
Holly Hunter Tammy Hemphill, Eddie's secretary and lover who aids Mitch in copying and stealing the files in Memphis and the Cayman Islands
Ed Harris FBI Agent Wayne Tarrance, the agent in charge of the investigation into the Firm; Mitch's primary contact with the FBI
Hal Holbrook Oliver Lambert, senior partner at the Firm
Jerry Hardin Royce McKnight, managing partner at the Firm
David Strathairn Ray McDeere, Mitch's brother who was in jail for a manslaughter conviction
Terry Kinney Lamar Quinn, Mitch's friend who works at the Firm
Wilford Brimley Bill DeVasher, officially the head of security at the Firm—unofficially the Firm's main hitman
Sullivan Walker Thomas Abanks, the owner of a scuba diving business
Gary Busey Eddie Lomax, a private investigator and former cell-mate of Ray McDeere
Barbara Garrick Kay Quinn, Lamar Quinn's wife who befriends both Abby and Mitch
Steven Hill FBI Director F. Denton Voyles
Margo Martindale Nina Huff, Mitch's secretary
Paul Sorvino Tony Morolto
Joe Viterelli Joey Morolto
Jerry Weintraub Sonny Capps
Tobin Bell The Nordic Man, Morolto Hitman
Dean Norris The Squat Man, Morolto Hitman
Karina Lombard the prostitute on the beach who seduces Mitch
John Beal Nathan Locke
Paul Calderon FBI Agent Thomas Richie

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

19:27

Most Rewatchable Scene

The chase: Mitch summoned to the partners after taking Avery's files, Tarrance's 'get out of there' call, and the esc...

The chase: Mitch summoned to the partners after taking Avery's files, Tarrance's 'get out of there' call, and the escape through Memphis

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 00:19:27Read transcript
  • The chase is the one pick: Mitch takes files from Avery's office, is stopped for a word, Brimley comes down, and the Ed Harris 'get out of there' call starts a fifteen-minute stretch the host watches every time, with Cruise running, jumping onto a truck that happens to carry pillows, riding the tram and hanging on while the two hitmen chase him; it carries the movie and is Sidney Pollack doing Three Days of the Condor twenty years later.
  • The scene where Mitch guesses his salary is a minor but good dramatic scene, one of the few that shows his intellect at work, and the hosts play the clip; the final maneuver that turns the ending into a court proceeding with Lambert as judge and Lamar as defense lawyer is also loved.
  • The Grand Cayman meeting where Mitch and Avery talk Sonny Capps into a tax loophole shows why Mitch is a great lawyer, though Cruise's profane 'fucked with a dick big enough for an elephant to feel it' line sounds like a robot wrote it; Jerry Weintraub playing a dirtbag years before Ocean's Eleven is enjoyed.
  • The chase, Cruise on the run, is called one of the best fifteen-minute sequences of the nineties; the wined-and-dined montage of Mitch learning the firm while Abby grows suspicious through Lamar's wife is also entertaining, the first hour is strong, the middle sags and the ending picks up, including the demolished house and Abby's return.
  • The boat scene between Strathairn and Holly Hunter, with the crooked-smile exchange, is a couple the host would have taken ten more minutes of instead of the beach scene.
29:02

What’s Aged the Best?

Dave Grusin's piano score; the name Mitch McDeere; the Cayman Islands as a locale; nineties Cruise; the cast as a who...

Dave Grusin's piano score; the name Mitch McDeere; the Cayman Islands as a locale; nineties Cruise; the cast as a whole; the Memphis setting; the foresight in casting future character actors

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:29:02Read transcript
  • The soundtrack, controversial at the time, has aged the best: Dave Grusin's piano is a character in itself, adding humor, melancholy, romance and suspense, recurring in themes such as the guitar on Beale Street and the drive by the river, and it puts Grusin on the Who Won the Movie list; it is called one of the best scores of the last twenty-five years and was Oscar-nominated, though polarizing when released.
  • Mitch McDeere is a great name; the Cayman Islands have always aged well as a mysterious locale; nineties Cruise is a peak era, and the hosts miss having an actor you buy season tickets for, floating Emma Stone, Miles Teller, Damon and Leo.
  • The totality of the cast and the Memphis setting, an emptied, fading southern metropolis, have aged well; on rewatch Mitch and Abby are themselves idiosyncratic, a self-made striver and a more moneyed wife, which reads as a Clinton-era, sell-out-or-not story that David Rabe and Robert Towne were obsessed with.
  • The character-actor foresight has aged well: Dean Norris and Tobin Bell as the two assassins before Breaking Bad and Saw, Terry Kinney before Oz and Billions, and Margo Martindale as the secretary, classic Pollack casting where the eighteenth most important person is a great actor.
37:36

What’s Aged the Worst?

The 155-minute runtime; the beach scene and Cruise's pirate shirt; the sweaty basketball scene; the backflips on Beal...

The 155-minute runtime; the beach scene and Cruise's pirate shirt; the sweaty basketball scene; the backflips on Beale Street; Cruise eating ribs; the instant steak sandwiches; Abby's Cayman plan; DeVasher as muscle; the late FBI plot maintenance

In the discussion (7)
Approx. transcript time · 00:37:36Read transcript
  • The 155-minute length has aged badly; the beach scene could be ten seconds, though one host argues it is needed to show the infidelity and the repair, and the film should be about two hours, with Pollack seemingly refusing to cut anything.
  • Cruise's pirate shirt in the Caymans and the sweaty basketball scene, where he never actually plays, have not aged well; his athletic ability is a favorite topic, with softball in A Few Good Men and cornerback in All the Right Moves the most believable, and Vision Quest imagined as his ideal sports film.
  • Cruise's backflips with a street tumbler on Beale Street, set up so he can be sad walking past the kid later, immediately date the film; nobody in real life does that, Abby's 'there he goes' makes no sense, and Kaya, asked whether she would date a man who did it, answers absolutely and then absolutely not.
  • Cruise eats a rib on the rooftop like a popsicle, as if he had never eaten ribs, prompting the joke that he learned human behavior through acting.
  • Tarrance and another agent order steak sandwiches at a late-night diner and get them within thirty-five seconds; Abby's plan to fly to Grand Cayman makes no sense, since she could not know the hotel or get a direct flight from Memphis.
  • Wilford Brimley as head of security and muscle has aged oddly; the last forty-five minutes are heavy on plot maintenance, such as the FBI holding the mob family's itinerary, Mitch getting the overbilling idea from the overbilled client, and Avery rolling over for Abby after she drugs him.
  • The film has a ton of flaws but is still great; the show does not require Citizen Kane.
52:05

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Wilford Brimley

Wilford Brimley

In the discussion (4)
Approx. transcript time · 00:52:05Read transcript
  • Wilford Brimley qualifies and therefore wins; David Strathairn, Holly Hunter, Paul Sorvino playing a mob boss again after Goodfellas, the actor beside Sorvino and Gary Busey make up the rest of the top five.
  • Brimley is his own planet in the film: the hosts quote his 'oral and whatnot' speech, note that Hackman was five years older yet Brimley seemed born at fifty, recall him as the Quaker Oats man and the manager in The Natural, and perform his catalog monologue, which the Ringer's president Jeff Chow does best.
  • Brimley had never played a bad guy before, brings an unexpected edge, and the blockbuster hinges on him checking whether the fax machine has paper; it is traumatic to watch Cruise fall on him and kick him, and whether he died is left for unanswerable questions.
  • Brimley carried himself like a hated stepfather and makes the office scene before the chase feel like Mitch is about to be killed; the 'oral and whatnot' line is recited again and he is declared the winner.
58:40

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

The unnamed actor beside Paul Sorvino's mob boss, with Jerry Hardin (Royce McKnight) as runner-up

The unnamed actor beside Paul Sorvino's mob boss, with Jerry Hardin (Royce McKnight) as runner-up

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 00:58:40Read transcript
  • The award is explained as Joe Pantoliano, 'that guy' through the eighties before becoming Joey Pants; the question is whether the winner should be someone who was that guy then and became known, or someone never known, with Terry Kinney, David Strathairn and Paul Sorvino ruled out as people we know.
  • The personal choice is the man beside Paul Sorvino, with Hal Holbrook's consigliere Jerry Hardin, who plays Royce McKnight, as runner-up; Hardin was in everything for twenty years, from Big Trouble in Little China and Reds to Deep Throat on the X Files and Melrose Place.
1:03:35

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Jeanne Tripplehorn is better than Holly Hunter in this movie

Jeanne Tripplehorn is better than Holly Hunter in this movie

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:03:35Read transcript
  • The take is that Tripplehorn was better than Holly Hunter in this film; the others agree she is very good in a part that is not easy and gives a real sense of who Abby is.
1:07:32

Apex Mountain

Jeanne Tripplehorn; Holly Hunter; John Grisham

Jeanne Tripplehorn; Holly Hunter; John Grisham

In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:07:32Read transcript
  • Tom Cruise is not at Apex Mountain here.
  • Wilford Brimley is argued for, but the others put his peak in the Cocoon and The Natural era, since this is against-type Brimley rather than the quintessence.
  • Jeanne Tripplehorn is a yes: Basic Instinct, then Tom Cruise's wife in a huge hit, then Waterworld; Big Love is considered but rejected.
  • Holly Hunter is a yes for most, with this and The Piano out the same year, though one host prefers Broadcast News, which prompts a tangent on that film and William Hurt.
  • John Grisham is a yes: three of the top six bestseller spots, a Tom Cruise movie and seven more coming, although he has published a book every year since 1991; The Pelican Brief is called rough.
1:11:04

Is This Movie Better With…?

Danny Trejo or Steve Buscemi

Danny Trejo or Steve Buscemi

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:11:04Read transcript
1:11:18

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Gary Busey

Gary Busey

In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:11:18Read transcript
  • Busey, doing the 'Elvis Aaron Hemphill' speech (as transcribed), is the easy pick: a heat-check era after Point Break when he tried to reinvent himself as a crazy character actor, and he is one of the worst parts of the film.
1:21:53

Who Won the Movie?

Dave Grusin

Dave Grusin

In the discussion (2)
Approx. transcript time · 01:21:53Read transcript
  • Candidates are Dave Grusin, Cruise, Brimley, Hackman, Grisham and Pollack, for whom this was the first good film in a long time, since Out of Africa, with Havana a dud; the score is declared the winner as the best part of the film and what makes it stand out twenty-five years later, and the others agree.
  • A Brimley aside asks how the briefcase survives being swung thirty times and jokes that the gymnastics exist so Mitch can hang from the ceiling.
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