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The Rewatchables · October 20, 2026

It Follows

host Bill Simmons host Chris Ryan host Joanna Robinson

What aged best: The It Follows sports-trade jokes
Casting what-if: Mike Lanier as the very tall It
Weakest link: The swimming pool plan

All 38 categories

Who won the movie Maika Monroe
Just one Oscar Disasterpeace for score
“That Guy” Award Jake Weary

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award · 59:50

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it

Rolling the dice for a one-nighter with the It Follows girl: at every point from age 18 to 27 the answer would have been fuck it, worth the demon STD.

It goes straight into the doctrine of bet on yourself, counting on scoring again in the next couple of nights; there is no time limit to pass it along.

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson · 1:35:56

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh, though his name could secretly be Jeff, a stealth Jeff, and you can't take all Jeffs off the table.

The film

It Follows (2014)

Directed by David Robert Mitchell · Horror

100 minutes

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In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

28:18

Most Rewatchable Scene

The lake house; the movie date gone wrong; Annie's death; Jay in the backseat of the car; Jay waking up after being d...

The lake house; the movie date gone wrong; Annie's death; Jay in the backseat of the car; Jay waking up after being drugged; Greg's death

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The first pick is the movie date gone wrong with Hugh Jeff (as transcribed), with praise for the great old-school movie theater.
Skipping the first scene, Annie's death, draws an objection: she runs out in a nightgown and high heels, changes into more sensible shoes while her dad asks if she is okay, and every parent in this movie is an F minus.
One list goes chronologically: the first movie date, then Jay waking up handcuffed to a chair, with the chloroform scene called really creepy; the scares are structured so the first kill leaves you waiting a long time, as in Halloween, before the wheelchair bit jumps it up a level.
A favorite is Jay in the backseat of the car talking about her hopes and dreams, shot so dreamily before he tenderly kisses her on the shoulder and the chloroform comes out.
Annie's leg facing completely backwards prompts a question for Craig about an NFL injury like it, with Tyquan Thornton named.
In the handcuffed-to-a-chair scene all the rules are laid out at the start in a remedial way, like an urban legend or a creepypasta, and it is shot from Jay's perspective as an ingenious bit of POV filmmaking.
The naked lady on the railroad tracks slowly walking over to Jay turns out, per the research, to be Jeff's mom, who shows up again later; the demon is said to get a little lazy later, going from Greg to Greg's mom to grandpa and dad.
The list continues with the classroom scene where Barbara Bush comes after her, the topless no-teeth peeing lady at the sleepover, and the giant black-eyed tall guy, called a favorite character in the movie.
The crunchy glasses white t-shirt lady who gets shot in the neck and just gets up, the tall guy coming back and creepy Michael Cera guy, the neighbor, are listed, and the lake house is called one participant's most rewatchable scene.
Greg dying while his half-naked mom grinds on him is called the worst way to go, followed by the naked guy in the house and the pool trap, a 10 out of 10 idea for a movie set piece though a terrible idea for killing the entity.
The kids should have a dumb idea, throwing electronics into the pool; Jay's dad as bearded t-shirt guy, the headshot, bullets going through water and missing, and Jay protecting her sister, who can't see it, are enjoyed.
Another pick is Jay waking up after Jeff has drugged her; the lake is liked and called the Dan Campbell moment, and Greg getting fuck-killed by his mom is also offered.

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32:23

“OK, Motherfucker” Award for When the Movie Goes Up a Notch

The naked lady on the railroad tracks

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The naked lady on the railroad tracks is where it becomes okay, motherfucker, now we're going, as she slowly walks over to Jay.

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34:15

Dorfler’s Door Award for How Much Did That Hurt?

Greg's death

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Greg getting killed by his mom is called that participant's doorflur's door (as transcribed): there is no worse way to go.

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36:02

Ranked the Ensemble

Crazy tall guy; Fentanyl Michael Cera; Barbara Bush; Greg's half-naked mom; Yara; Jay's dad; the naked railroad track...

Crazy tall guy; Fentanyl Michael Cera; Barbara Bush; Greg's half-naked mom; Yara; Jay's dad; the naked railroad tracks lady; the topless no-tooth peeing lady

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At number eight is the topless no-tooth peeing lady, with one sock on and an unclear story; the naked railroad tracks lady is seven, Jay's dad as bearded t-shirt guy six, and the crunchy white t-shirt glasses lady, her friend Yara, is liked for her Terminator demeanor.
The It always wearing white is helpful; Greg's half-naked mom is four, Barbara Bush three, Fentanyl Michael Cera, the neighbor kid who bursts through the door, two, and crazy tall guy number one.
Another participant puts dad as number one because your dad trying to drown you hits home, and he was the most resilient, still going after two headshots.

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37:15

Todd Parker Award for Best Character Entrance

The crazy tall guy

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The crazy tall guy gets the Todd Parker award for best character entrance and is called so scary; Mike Lanier is a 7'7 basketball player in real life with a twin, given a black eye and white pancake makeup.
There is something freaky about somebody super tall, as in Backrooms, Barbarian and Patrick Ewing in Exorcist 3; the way he comes in behind her is singled out.

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40:30

The most 2014 thing

The post-2008 housing crisis; post-Occupy; disappointed millennials; the Funny or Die spoof; side bangs

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The answer is being post 2008 housing crisis. — Chris Ryan
Post-occupy, abandoned houses and economically disappointed millennials still living at home are added.
A 2015 Funny or Die spoof, What Follows After Watching It Follows, came at the tail end of Funny or Die; nobody thinks or remembers that the spoof was funny.
Her side bangs, with a lot of flat ironing involved, are very 2014.

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41:19

Floyd Gondolli Enjoyment Award

Annie's leg broken backwards; the Scooby-Doo gang trope; the Halloween homages

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One pick is Annie's leg broken all the way backwards, likened to the Tyree Kale (as transcribed) injury.
Another is the Scooby-Doo gang trope of kids trying to figure out what's coming after them.
A third is the director doing multiple Halloween homages: the opening street shot, Jay walking with her friends toward a camera going backwards like Jamie Lee and her two friends, and Jay in the classroom looking out the window, called homage rather than ripoff.
Breaking into Greg's house while she calls him on the phone, and being afraid to fall asleep, are called Nightmare on Elm Street.

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43:10

What’s Aged the Best?

The It Follows sports-trade jokes; the Disasterpeace score; the pick-someone game; Paul as the supportive friend; the...

The It Follows sports-trade jokes; the Disasterpeace score; the pick-someone game; Paul as the supportive friend; the simple premise; the unobserved followers; the supportive group of kids; the repeated water imagery

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Early, one participant had it for this category (transcribed 'one stage the best'): a legacy of the movie coming out in 2014 is that it became a joke, for a player traded to a team that goes downhill and then traded again, so it follows sports trades, with Corey Brewer and Jeff Green offered as the 2014 hoops examples; in the category itself the nomination returns, with the jokes about It Follows named again as that participant's pick.
The phenomenal score was done by Disaster Peace, picked because the director was a huge fan of the video game Fez, and it pounds in a loud theater; a track maybe called Detroit has about 8 million streams, and it and Drive are the synth-y soundtracks that went.
Detroit again, and the pick-someone-in-the-room-you'd-want-to-be game, which adds to not knowing when the movie takes place, since people now would be on their phones on the date.
A tangent recalls a name game played to pass the time, and an actor, movie, actor version.
Paul, the supportive friend of the final girl who is secretly in love with her, is a favorite horror trope, a real Justin Long type played by Keir Gilchrist, angling for sex early.
The simplicity of premise: the director never said it out loud when pitching because it was too embarrassing, yet it is a perfect elevator pitch, three words, sexually transmitted demon, unlike Barbarian.
The unobserved followers: the guy outside the restaurant on the date, the lady in white at Jeff's high school and the guy following Jay and Paul in the last shot leave it ambiguous whether they are free; the soccer girl coming home flips it, recalling the background ghosts of Haunting of Hill House.
The group of kids gets along and everyone believes her, a nice hangout vibe set up when the girl farts in the first 40 seconds; she graduated and stayed at the JC, hanging out with her younger sister's friends while everyone else left.
The consistency and repetitive imagery: all the water, the pool, the woman peeing, the lake, the swimming pool at the end.

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48:24

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Jay fondling the flower in the concrete; Jay in the car talking about her dreams; the backseat of the car; the POV 36...

Jay fondling the flower in the concrete; Jay in the car talking about her dreams; the backseat of the car; the POV 360s; the pool filling with blood

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The backseat of the car shot is named, and the pick always gone back to is Jay fondling the flower coming out of the concrete before she gets drugged, her last moment of innocence, along with Jay in the car talking about her dreams.
The handcuffed-to-the-chair 360s are earned because they are always from a POV, though drone shots are out.
Shots in the pool and the pool filling with blood look cool for a movie that was not expensive.

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49:10

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The Redford Theater; the lake house

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The category is someone's flex and the lake house comes up; the movie theater is named, a real theater called the Redford Theater outside Detroit that plays the Wurlitzer organ before the show.
The Castro Theater in San Francisco also plays a Wurlitzer; it is not the True Romance theater, which they filmed at the Vista in LA.

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49:10

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

The hand-dipped ice cream; Yara eating in the hospital; kids drinking soda

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A great shot of hand-dipped ice cream with sprinkles comes from Clark's Ice Cream in Berkeley (as transcribed) at the corner of 12 Mile and Tyler.
She eats it as she tells her friends about her crazy life; Yara eating in the hospital at the end and kids drinking soda all day are also named.

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50:57

Chest Rockwell / Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name

Jeff Hugh; Jay Height

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It's got to be Hugh, or Jeff, or Jeff Hugh; Jay Height is called a great name, while another participant didn't love Jay as short for Jamie.

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51:13

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

No songs in the movie

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There are no songs in this movie.
The shout-out instead is the car backfire when Jeff Hugh drops her off, the sound going seamlessly into the reverb of the eerie synth score.

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51:13

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

STD: It Follows

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No way at first, since the director mentioned sexually transmitted demon; the earlier pitches are ST demon, STD and Itch Follows, with STD colon Itch Follows also offered.
Later the winner title the hosts came up with is called STD colon It Follows, distinct from the earlier STD colon Itch Follows proposal.

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52:08

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The swimming pool plan; Greg; Paul

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If Paul were a little older, would his rivalry with Greg feel more tense; Daniel Zavato (as transcribed) is called Riggins-lite when full Riggins was wanted, and Paul is a number two choice.
The number one choice is the swimming pool plan, loved as a scene but so stupid; Mitchell has said it's a kid movie plan Scooby-Doo might think of, and they bring one TV and hairdryer at a time, giving it rockets to throw.
Greg needed something more, Tim Riggins in 2008, since he treated her badly in high school and worms his way back into the inner circle; Craig Grobeck should have played him.

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54:50

What’s Aged the Worst?

The peeping Tom kids; bad reads as an STD allegory; audiences judging the characters' intelligence

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The peeping Tom kids are never understood: she is the leftover prom queen the neighborhood boys still stare at, and in 2014 climbing up to look through her window is criminal activity, though that's how George McFly met his wife.
Bad reads of the movie: the number of people who think this is just an allegory for STDs or the perils of AIDS, which it's not.
Contemporary audiences focus way too much on the intelligence of the characters and whether they make the right call; if it came out today people would call these kids idiots over the hair dryer plan.

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58:33

Pete Berg Award for Underacting, a.k.a. the Ambien Award for the Sleepiest Actor

Paul

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Instead of the overacting award, the Stallone and Rambo 2 Wonder Acting (as transcribed) award goes to Paul, who needed to ramp it up with a little more energy.

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58:48

Van Lathan Award for Did This Movie Need More Black People?

Yes

Flex pick · Joanna Robinson

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The flex category honors Van Lathan: did this movie need more black people? — Joanna Robinson
It's set in Detroit and it did: the community college teacher, maybe one of the sex workers and the two cops are about it, and Naomi Aki (as transcribed) is second billed in the sequel.
The category ran with Van for Friday the 13th, where he did his movies that didn't need black people; this one at least had a couple.

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59:50

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it; better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons; it would make $180 mil...

One night with the It Follows girl is worth it; better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons; it would make $180 million today; Maika Monroe holds the Scream Queen belt; the sequel should be a comedy

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Rolling the dice for a one-nighter with the It Follows girl: at every point from age 18 to 27 the answer would have been fuck it, worth the demon STD.
It goes straight into the doctrine of bet on yourself, counting on scoring again in the next couple of nights; there is no time limit to pass it along.
Changing the Catherine Trammell would you throw your life away award to the would you have sex with the It Follows girl award, or the Bill Simmons I would award, is floated.
Another take: this movie is better than Obsession, Hereditary and Weapons, the elevated horror of the last 15 years, because it has a lot on its mind and peels back more every time, down to her broken hand holding Paul's at the end.
Piggybacking, if it came out right now with a big studio it would make $180 million, at least 100, and it is very similar to Obsession.
Part of what people respond to with horror is newness and surprise, so for the sequel no trailer is wanted, just the title and one second.
The sequel's title is argued as They Follow or They Follows, and Paul is not in it.
Micah Monroe (as transcribed) still has the Scream Queen belt, with competition from Jessica Roth (as transcribed) and Samara Weaving, after Jamie Lee in the 80s, Neve Campbell in the 90s and Naomi Watts in the aughts for Ring, Ring 2, the Funny Games remake and Mulholland Drive.
Funny Games is not a rewatchable because it's not a fun hang, and the dad, Tim Roth, is a zero out of ten on the protect my family scale.
The last take is that the sequel should change genres into a straight comedy, just Paul trying to get laid as people come towards him, made by the This Is the End crew.

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1:09:40

Casting What-Ifs

Mike Lanier as the very tall It

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Mike Lanier plays the very tall It: a 7 foot 7 Detroit resident who designed engines for General Motors and was one half of the world's tallest twins.

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1:10:49

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Jake Weary

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The pick is the guy who plays Hugh, Jake Weary, one of those guys seen in other stuff, a bad guy in something; Keir Gilchrist (transcribed Gilchriston) is placed in Task.

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1:11:03

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The tall It guy; Daniel Zovatto

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Greg's mom or the tall It guy are offered, and it goes to the tall It guy (transcribed 'all it guy'), with a shout-out to Naked Grandpa.
Naming Daniel Zavato (as transcribed) pushes the limits of the award, but he is really liked in this and great in Station Eleven.

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1:11:33

Recasting Couch

Jennifer Lawrence; a Boston version with Robin Williams; Justin Long as Paul; Taylor Kitsch; Neve Campbell as the lead

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Going bigger than Micah Monroe (as transcribed), this is the kind of movie Jennifer Lawrence should have made in the 2010s instead of the David O. Russell area; Winter's Bone made people want this, a contract thing transcribed as The Last House on the Left came early in her career, and she would have been good in one elevated horror.
The actual answer moves it to Boston: she is at Bunker Hill Community College with Robin Williams, running around Charlestown, reciting the love song of J. Alfred Prufrock in a Boston accent.
Justin Long as Paul is raised but he was too old; a time machine would put Taylor Kitsch and Justin Long in this movie, and then Neve Campbell could have been the lead.

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1:13:02

Half-Assed Internet Research

Wide-angle lenses; Carpenter, Romero and Hitchcock as influences; The Idiot; teenage problems as props

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The film used wide-angle lenses for an expansive look; Carpenter, George Romero and Hitchcock were big influences, as was The Idiot, and Atlanta in 2022 is asked about as having a parody of it near the end.
Some people read teenage problems as props: the grass on her thigh as self-harm cutting, uneaten food as an eating disorder and the pill on the napkin as drug dependency; only the grass is bought.
A line read from The Idiot: your soul will leave your body and you will no longer be a person, tied to wanting to give up like Annie at the beach.
Mitchell has said that when Jay wakes up on the roof of the car she is close to where Annie was, before she sees the guys in the boat and maybe buys herself some time; a joke imagines those guys coming home.

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1:15:24

Apex Mountain

Everyone in the cast except Michael Monroe (as transcribed); David Robert Mitchell; backward leg murders; the Playpen...

Everyone in the cast except Michael Monroe (as transcribed); David Robert Mitchell; backward leg murders; the Playpen magazine

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Everyone in this cast is first called a no, then immediately corrected to a yes, except for Michael Monroe (as transcribed).
Monroe hasn't hit her apex yet; probably Long Legs, which vaulted her to another level, and she stars in these movies, like Watcher.
No above-ground pool scenes come to mind, though the pool becomes a symbol in the movie.
David Robert Mitchell is a yes for sure, with a lot of stock bought after this movie, after a joke about David Robert Marshall pitching for the Brewers.
High school horror movies are a no, that's Scream and Halloween; backward leg murders get a yeah, though this one is not as good as the first death in the Ring.
Charade with Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn is a no; the Playpen magazine gets a yeah for the tissues on top and the photo of his high school girlfriend.

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1:17:06

The Proof of Life / David Caruso Award for a Character Who Should Have Been Spun Off into Their Own Sequel

The crazy tall guy

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The crazy tall guy could have been spun off, seen on a long scary poster terrorizing gross Detroit, the original long legs.

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1:17:21

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise as Hugh or as the naked guy on the roof

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It's obviously Cruz (as transcribed): Risky Business Cruz of 1983 as Hugh, or Cruz right now as the scary naked guy on the roof, Digger Cruz.
A Digger tangent: it wasn't hated as much as people did and was liked, and the official zag on Digger is expected when it hits streaming.

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1:18:14

The Dennis Peck Relationship Test

Dennis Peck ending the curse himself

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Could Dennis Peck have broken up the relationship: in a tucked-in polo he rolls around Detroit trying to end the curse, a job for one man, and that should be the sequel.

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1:18:46

Picking Nits

A movie date while being followed; romancing her instead of a random woman or sex worker; the naked guy on the roof; ...

A movie date while being followed; romancing her instead of a random woman or sex worker; the naked guy on the roof; whether gunshots stop it and why it bleeds; no further police involvement after she reported the kidnapping; the shell phone's video function

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Would you go on a movie date if you were being followed, and why is Jeff Hugh romancing her when he could find a random woman in a bar or a sex worker.
Jeff Hugh is called the biggest scumbag in the movie, taking her to a diner like an Applebee's after the date.
Why was the naked guy standing on the roof without going to the house; asked in a Reddit AMA how he got on the roof, the director answered very carefully.
Do gunshots kill them or slow them down: it disappears and comes back in some other form, as Yara got back up, and why it bleeds that much in the pool has the answer that it looks really cool.
At some point they should let law enforcement know more, though she is nervous nobody will believe her; the hosts correct themselves that she did tell the police at first that Paul (as transcribed) kidnapped her, and the police said they could not find him; the nitpick is why there is no further police involvement once guns are involved and Greg is killed across the street.
Does the shell phone have a video function to record the entity, given good video cameras on phones by 2014.

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1:22:30

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

They Follow; no prestige TV version; a prequel with the tall guy as the original It

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They Follow, or They Follows, is coming, but this conversation shows why there should not be a prestige TV version: they'd have to answer too many questions.
A Carrie tangent: all eight episodes watched over a weekend in Boston, called really good though the framing lore and coven aspect weren't needed, with a lot of Lillard as the principal.
They Follow has Justine Lupe from Succession, Jackie Earl Haley (as transcribed), Melora Walters and Michael Gandolfini.
An It prequel would reveal Tall Guy as the original It, who played basketball in Romania and pissed off a witch on an away game in Transylvania.

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1:24:25

Is This Movie Better With…?

Longlegs; Stephen A. Smith apologizing as Hugh

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The answer is Long Legs, who invented this.
Stephen A. apologizes as Hugh for the movie theater date, having a sexual entity demon following him and still taking her out, correcting himself midway like the Lane Johnson apology: he took Jade (as transcribed) to see Charade and it was a ruse, then it wasn't a ruse.
Jeff Hugh lives and doesn't really apologize: he gave her the wrong name, Kevin, faked a house he was renting with prescription pills, and when they find him through yearbooks he sits on the lawn and leaves, with nobody calling the cops.

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1:26:15

Just One Oscar

Disasterpeace for score

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Cinematography and Mitchell for direction come up, and Disaster Piece (as transcribed) for score is a good call and the answer.

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1:26:31

Clarence Worley Should Have Died

A clearer final follower; Jay and Paul as evil spirits; a what-have-we-done news report ending

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Should Jay have died, or should it have been more clear they were being followed at the end, since the last person wasn't wearing weight (as transcribed).
It's conceivable that Jay and Paul are both evil spirits walking around.
Instead of a Graduate ending, the two of them walking down the street, a news report of sex workers across Detroit dying mysteriously would leave them on the couch thinking about what they've done.
That ending would answer the lack of accountability for Paul's move, maybe Jay's with the boat guys, and Jeff Hugh's; Stephen A. apologizes to the three men on the boat.

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1:27:53

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Where does Jay's date rank among the worst movie dates? Was naked guy on the roof an It? Does it work for all kinds o...

Where does Jay's date rank among the worst movie dates? Was naked guy on the roof an It? Does it work for all kinds of sex? Did Paul wear a condom? How does the entity choose its form? What if everyone had sex at once? Could you isolate the person? Does its touch kill, and could having sex with it reverse the curse?

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Where does Jay's date with Hugh rank among the worst movie dates in movies: Ellen Barkin and Mickey Rourke in Diner, and Jada Pinkett and Omar Epps at the premiere of Stab, where she gets stabbed to death.
Matt Damon and Jack Nicholson at the theater in The Departed, and the family outing in Cape Fear with a cigar in the theater, are added.
What if Naked Guy on the Roof wasn't an It but a neighborhood creep, grandpa out again; the movie is called a bellwether for old people being scary.
Does it work for all kinds of sex: David Robert Mitchell has answered in interviews that it works for queer sex and condoms don't work, and the hosts debate non-penetrative sex between two women.
Does digital penetration count, the kids could have tested the limits, and the demon is on its own clock, since Greg is sure he beat the system before his own mom gets him.
In a threesome all three people get it, which raises whether she had sex with all three boat guys.
Did Paul wear a condom with the sex workers: probably not, since he would want it spread, so Paul probably got a real STD.
Is Jay off sex for a while; she does not enjoy sex with either Paul or Greg.
Does the entity choose a person to get to who it wants to kill: the answer is it shows up as what will unsettle you, a loved one or a seven foot Romanian basketball player, with naked Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy and Ben Roethlisberger imagined.
What if everyone in Detroit had sex at the exact same time; it's just one entity with a clear path, so whoever you have sex with is next.
One human sacrifice in government solitary confinement, a block of ice, burial 500 feet underground or outer space like the Martian, but it can get on a plane or a space shuttle, and when that person dies it comes back to Jeff Hugh.
Earlier, flagged as an unanswerable, the hosts argue whether Jay had sex with the boat guys at the lake to buy herself time before the pool and Paul.
One more idea after the double feature: when the It touches you, do you just die, and could you reverse Uno it by having sex with the It; since it grabbed Jay by the hair and her ankle without killing her, the touch is not enough, and it has to have sex with you, grinding against you, as seen once with the mom.

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What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The shell phone

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Nothing was written down, then the shell phone; another wouldn't want anything because the demon might get mad, and the shell phone not existing is a letdown since it would be bought right now.

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1:35:56

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh

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Don't have sex with a guy named Hugh, though his name could secretly be Jeff, a stealth Jeff, and you can't take all Jeffs off the table.
Should she have known, having never gone inside his house out in the city, where he ran in, popped a pill and read a porno mag?

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1:36:25

Best Double Feature

The Guest; Longlegs; Barbarian; 8 Mile

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The options are The Guest, Long Legs, or Barbarian for the double Detroit, and 8 Mile, starting with 8 Mile and ending with It Follows.

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Who Won the Movie?

Maika Monroe

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Micah Monroe (as transcribed) is named three times in a row with no other candidate.

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The premise is a sex Ponzi scheme, an STD entity you pass to the next person, called one of the best horror movie ideas ever and a what would you do movie with moral complications, since passing it might be killing someone.

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They Follow has been announced, and it is hard to believe there hasn't been a sequel, since the premise could have been five movies in different countries or a prestige show, more legible than Insidious.

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What would you do: keep moving to buy time, or engage a sex worker as Paul seems to at the end; the director said it can get on a plane, and the hosts think he was a little too chatty about the premise of a dream logic movie.

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Bangkok Craig is asked what he would do, and an orgy to confuse it brings up Bonnie Blue; the entity works backwards like a depth chart, so if it wipes out the people you passed it to, it comes back to you, as with Jeff Hugh.

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It is called a third-generation meta horror movie, after Halloween as ground zero in 1978 and the late 90s Scream and H2O, and Wesley Morris is quoted on its synth score's debt to John Carpenter, its Nightmare on Elm Street adolescents and daylight made uncanny like Catherine Bigelow's Near Dark (as transcribed).

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You never really know what year you're in, 1995 or early 1980s, in a beaten-down post-housing-crisis Detroit that makes a cheap and creepy horror setting like Don't Breathe and Barbarian; Yara's shell phone, a Kindle reader, is anachronistic next to corded phones.

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In 2014 nobody knew whether horror would still make money or go to VOD; horror was an on-ramp for directors from George Romero and Toby Hooper to the Duplass brothers, a Trojan horse leading to Get Out and Hereditary, after the Saw and Rob Zombie era lost its way.

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A moneyball approach: nobody knew Michael Monroe (as transcribed), Detroit was dirt cheap and there are no songs; the $1.3 million budget made $23.3 million and it made the best horror of the century lists.

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Micah Monroe is Gen Z's Scream Queen from It Follows, The Guest, Greta, Villains, Long Legs and Watcher, playing the classic final girl who is insecure but strangely resourceful, and able to be the cop, the person with baggage or the wide-eyed one.

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Written and directed by David Robert Mitchell, who waited four years to make Under the Silver Lake, a weird postmodern conspiracy thriller with Garfield liked better on a rewatch; his End of Oak Street is called fine, with Ewan McGregor deeply miscast.

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Wesley Morris, writing for Grantland in 2015, called it a better than decent, less than great genre film whose most original quality is a sick joke inversion of the Friday the 13th premise that teenagers who have sex get slaughtered, while it deserves its theatrical run.

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The director has said the entity takes whatever form will most mess with you, like her naked grandpa on the roof, and that the movie is about abuse, prompting theories about dad in the pool and the urinating lady.

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The director always had nightmares of being followed and merged that with sex, which is why the movie feels primal; recurring anxiety dreams of an unprepared test and a nightmare about a Jalen Brown trade for Paul George come up.

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Paul rolling up on the sex workers at the end gives plausible deniability but it will roll back, bad teenage logic like the hairdryer next to the pool; once you get it nothing works, perhaps the STD allegory, an app is proposed, and the only person who ever gave them the rules is Jeff, which raises where Jeff got that information.

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Craig, horror curious, gets advice to care about the vibe: the camera work, 360 panning, gray color palette and pink before something happens are great, but the pool ending was flimsy and the last half hour loses a bit once it has to confront the entity.

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