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Jake should stay in adult films

Despite De Palma’s provocative promises, the movie seems tamer than its potential and more interested in the absurd workaday sex business than arousal; Crimes of Passion is an extreme comparison.

Chris Ryan: Jake should remain in adult filmmaking after immediately landing featured work, with the Chemosphere an ideal set and comic qualifications about technique.

Distrust too-good house-sitting offers

Bill Simmons: Distrust an extraordinary house-sitting offer from someone barely known, and avoid following strangers for long periods.

The film

Body Double (1984)

Directed by Brian De Palma · Thriller

114 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Craig Wasson Jake Scully
Gregg Henry Sam Bouchard / Alexander Revelle
Melanie Griffith Holly Body
Deborah Shelton Gloria Revelle
Guy Boyd Jim McLean
David Haskell Drama teacher
Dennis Franz Rubin
Rebecca Stanley Kimberly
Larry Flash Jenkins Assistant director
Monte Landis Sid Goldberg
Linda Shaw Linda Shaw

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

6:43

Half-Assed Internet Research

Body-double premise; casting and dubbing; box office; locations; audition rumors

Body-double premise; casting and dubbing; box office; locations; audition rumors

In the discussion (12)
Approx. transcript time · 00:06:43Read transcript
  • De Palma’s combative interview style and post-Scarface three-picture deal are connected with doubling down on sex and violence; the body-double idea reportedly grew from Dressed to Kill.
  • Robert Avrech reportedly worked from De Palma’s reinterpretations of Hitchcock, and the studio rejected the original plan for unsimulated sex. — Bill Simmons
  • Shelton’s performance was reportedly redubbed by Helen Shaver, an unusual American-production choice; an interview suggests Shelton’s own voice is normal, while Shaver’s sultry tone is praised.
  • Griffith’s casting and nomination revived her career; De Palma reportedly knew her through Trivial Pursuit with Stephen Bauer and recovering actors. — Bill Simmons
  • A $10 million budget and $8.8 million gross are reported; De Palma’s continued sense of failure contrasts with later affection for the movie. — Bill Simmons
  • Kael’s disappointment is contrasted with Ebert’s praise and her earlier De Palma advocacy; her Hollywood experience and critical judgments are debated.
  • The discussion identifies several real adult performers and Bauer’s cameo, while naming Michael Kearns as the stunt-cock performer; these are podcast casting claims rather than newly verified metadata. — Bill Simmons
  • Locations are listed with explicit uncertainty about the Beverly Center and whether the video store is Tower; the Chemosphere is preferred as the defining Los Angeles place. — Bill Simmons
  • The Relax set was reportedly reused for Fright Night’s nightclub sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake’s car is identified as a 1967 Chevrolet Camaro RS convertible, prompting jokes about jumping into cars. — Bill Simmons
  • De Palma denies a persistent rumor of many women performing private auditions at his home, saying only Haven and Griffith worked there on the routine; the response is teased but not established as false. — Bill Simmons
  • Griffith’s routine audition tape was reportedly destroyed at her request. — Bill Simmons
13:57

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Jake should stay in adult films; permit real sex; best adult-industry integration

Jake should stay in adult films; permit real sex; best adult-industry integration

In the discussion (4)
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  • Despite De Palma’s provocative promises, the movie seems tamer than its potential and more interested in the absurd workaday sex business than arousal; Crimes of Passion is an extreme comparison.
  • Jake should remain in adult filmmaking after immediately landing featured work, with the Chemosphere an ideal set and comic qualifications about technique. — Chris Ryan
  • Consensual unsimulated sex in mainstream films is advocated as a remaining boundary, contrasted with screen violence; The Brown Bunny’s backlash and explicitly unconfirmed rumors about other films are discussed.
  • This is called the best limited integration of the adult-film world into a mainstream movie; Boogie Nights, Hardcore, Wonderland, 8MM, Orgazmo and others supply comparisons. — Bill Simmons
16:16

Recasting Couch

Retain ordinary-man lead; Hanks; Russell; Dreyfuss; Caruso; Turner as Gloria

Retain ordinary-man lead; Hanks; Russell; Dreyfuss; Caruso; Turner as Gloria

In the discussion (6)
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  • Wasson’s odd, unstarry presence is questioned, but a major star such as Travolta or Pacino might not work as this humiliated protagonist.
  • Kurt Russell might give a better performance but make a worse film; Hanks is considered ideal for the ordinary-man part. — Sean Fennessey
  • The casting is defended as a modern Jimmy Stewart ordinary man and struggling low-tier actor; Dreyfuss is considered but his career circumstances complicate it.
  • Wasson works best in the first act but may lack force for the later thriller. Caruso is floated, then doubted as someone a partner would cheat on. — Chris Ryan
  • Wasson’s mundane early behavior emphasizes his lack of star aura; Giamatti is imagined as a later-era alternative. — Chris Ryan
  • Kathleen Turner as Gloria could supply both the appearance and voice, though the character’s limited function would probably remain. — Bill Simmons
23:23

Casting What-Ifs

Curtis, Haven, Hamilton, Fisher; Kristel as Gloria

Curtis, Haven, Hamilton, Fisher; Kristel as Gloria

In the discussion (5)
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  • Jamie Lee Curtis is a rumored alternative, but Griffith is considered a better fit.
  • Annette Haven was considered and tested, contributed dialogue and advice, but Griffith’s test was stronger; Haven’s intelligence is contrasted with the role’s need for comic energy. — Bill Simmons
  • Linda Hamilton reportedly declined Holly for The Terminator, prompting speculation about swapping the careers and whether Griffith could have played Sarah Connor.
  • Curtis reportedly declined after Griffith introduced her; Fisher and Tatum O’Neal are less certain possibilities. Fisher’s cynical intelligence might fit Holly and break her Star Wars image.
  • Sylvia Kristel was reportedly wanted for Gloria but unavailable; discussion of her drinking problems raises doubt about the fit. — Bill Simmons
25:41

Most Rewatchable Scene

Relax; following Gloria; adult-industry stretch; first dance

Relax; following Gloria; adult-industry stretch; first dance

In the discussion (21)
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  • Jake and Holly encountering another actress after drinks is identified as a scene where the two film-industry worlds look similar. — Bill Simmons
  • Sid Goldberg’s adult-industry interview and correction from expressionist to exhibitionist are singled out as comic highlights.
  • Jake discovering his girlfriend with another man is nominated: his cheerful obliviousness and humiliating retreat establish his weakness, with the staging compared to Boogie Nights. — Bill Simmons
  • The acting-class sardine exercise is judged important but not especially successful because Sam recognizes Jake’s vulnerability there. — Bill Simmons
  • The house-sitting offer provides an appealing leap into luxury, prompting an anecdote about temporary loft living after moving to Los Angeles.
  • Sam introducing the precise nightly striptease is absurd but persuasive to the entranced Jake, who accepts the house and spectacle without the obvious questions.
  • Jake follows Gloria to the Rodeo collection, behaving conspicuously at a payphone and retrieving discarded underwear; security intervention is deserved. — Bill Simmons
  • The mall’s moving camera, escalators, payphone staging and Donaggio score make apparently uneventful following mesmerizing, recalling Dressed to Kill’s museum sequence.
  • The crowded elevator triggers claustrophobia, while the underwear-shop viewpoint and later police rebuke emphasize Jake’s creepiness. — Bill Simmons
  • The purse-snatch chase offers tiring, realistic running and striking Long Beach terraces, though easy access to Gloria’s phone call and her calm reaction are questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • The tunnel repeats claustrophobia before an extravagant spinning kiss, whose dreamlike unreality and sweeping camera are connected with Hitchcock and Blow Out.
  • The drill murder is admired for not showing penetration, comic plugging-in interruptions and blood dripping through the floor, despite its contested phallic imagery.
  • Sid Goldberg’s program, Linda Shaw’s adult-film titles and his smooth transition to a trailer make the television sequence especially funny. — Bill Simmons
  • Holly Does Hollywood’s five-minutes joke and lurid review blurbs are praised as meticulously observed adult-film parody. — Bill Simmons
  • The move into the adult industry is considered a high point across video store, trailer, sets and casting, with strong influence on Boogie Nights; Goldberg is distinguished as a fictional role from real performer Linda Shaw.
  • The Relax adult-film/music-video sequence is praised as an early successful translation of MTV aesthetics into narrative film, with De Palma studying visual form and choosing Frankie Goes to Hollywood at the right moment.
  • Holly’s businesslike contract and boundary speech on the date is praised for effortless delivery; Jake’s producer impersonation is compared unfavorably with George C. Scott in Hardcore.
  • The encounter with Kimberly Hess and her career/body advice is admired as industry satire; the claim that her actor Rebecca Stanley was an adult performer is stated uncertainly rather than verified.
  • Jake confessing he is not a producer sends Holly away and leads to the visually striking but confusing reservoir confrontation.
  • Relax is the most-rewatched choice; the following sequence is another favorite, while the stretch from video discovery through Holly’s first date is called elite. — Bill Simmons
  • The first nightly dance is a late most-rewatchable-scene nomination, emphasizing the uncertainty between Shelton and Griffith. — Sean Fennessey
27:38

What’s Aged the Best?

Griffith; Los Angeles; music; Peter Meter; enduring influence

Griffith; Los Angeles; music; Peter Meter; enduring influence

In the discussion (10)
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  • Recognizable Los Angeles locations make repeat viewing richer; the city’s filming history prompts frustration about current production incentives. — Bill Simmons
  • Long Beach doubles for the coast nearer Los Angeles, while backlots, auditions and deliberately artificial locations reinforce the film’s interest in constructed appearances.
  • Young Griffith and the enduring Barney’s Beanery are praised; Wasson’s Maher/Meyer resemblance is a running joke.
  • Linda Shaw receives overdue praise through joking basketball-star comparisons. — Bill Simmons
  • A relapse at the bar and the horrified bartender’s questions are enjoyed, leading to a tangent about knowing regular bartenders.
  • The neighbor’s stripping music and Holly’s Peter Meter dance routine hold up; the score’s later use in Air is noted.
  • Sam claiming creative differences with the Seattle repertory company is enjoyed as an obviously convenient excuse.
  • The fake Vampire’s Kiss title reportedly inspired the later film; American Psycho’s Bateman obsessively rents Body Double, and an adult performer takes Holly Body as her name.
  • The Griffith–Dakota Johnson–Tippi Hedren lineage and the film’s influence after its flop are praised. — Sean Fennessey
  • Sam applying elaborate disguise makeup himself is briefly admired, though the stereotyped identity is immediately challenged as having aged badly. — Sean Fennessey
33:18

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (1)
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  • Ebert’s score is three and a half stars; his praise emphasizes pure filmmaking, Hitchcockian danger and identification with the flawed hero. No denominator is stated. — Bill Simmons
41:13

Picking Nits

Sam’s elaborate plan; Gloria’s whereabouts; drill; makeup; implausible coordination

Sam’s elaborate plan; Gloria’s whereabouts; drill; makeup; implausible coordination

In the discussion (16)
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  • The house’s parking/access and emphasized plant-watering duty raise questions; the plants may exist to keep Jake returning home but receive no clear payoff. — Chris Ryan
  • The blocking tree, Jake’s departure and the disguised watcher’s conspicuous positioning depend on unexplained coordination. — Bill Simmons
  • Starting with strangulation makes the drill plan unclear; the proposed safe-break-in explanation is challenged because the auger is for wood rather than metal. — Sean Fennessey
  • Gloria not running away and instead calling 911 with her back to the attacker is questioned.
  • The highly elaborate sequence seems implausibly good for a 1984 adult film; its missing-climax complaint is compared with Boogie Nights.
  • Sam’s enormous grave at a reservoir crest seems an especially implausible plan vulnerable to erosion. — Chris Ryan
  • Jake misses obvious relationship and work warning signs yet rapidly solves an elaborate murder, creating inconsistent competence. — Chris Ryan
  • Sam’s plan requires disguises, cars, properties and a witness who fails to recognize him; a simpler staged staircase fall is proposed instead.
  • The urgent house-sitting handoff and plants depend on Sam finding a suitable replacement, although he has overheard Jake seeking housing. — Bill Simmons
  • Gloria’s whereabouts during Holly’s nightly bedroom performance are unexplained, with beach-house or social-life guesses. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake carrying Gloria’s underwear for roughly ten hours despite going home is noted, alongside his nearly unchanged outfit. — Bill Simmons
  • News coverage of Gloria’s murder should expose her husband’s face to Jake or fellow acting students, undermining Sam’s disguise-based scheme. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake immediately becoming a leading adult performer is questioned, but prolific production and his audition experience are offered as reasons it could happen.
  • Sam apparently applies a disguise alone that reportedly took the real production three and a half hours daily. — Bill Simmons
  • Hiring a famous adult star for the deception seems riskier than an unknown dancer, though Holly’s physical resemblance to Gloria is the explanation. — Bill Simmons
  • Sam bringing the dog everywhere causes his demise and seems avoidable.
46:42

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Split-diopter payphone; reservoir coffin imagery

Split-diopter payphone; reservoir coffin imagery

In the discussion (2)
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  • The split-diopter payphone view from the valet is nominated. — Chris Ryan
  • The reservoir confrontation’s coffin imagery is another possible Great Shot Gordo choice. — Bill Simmons
49:06

Brandy Booth Award for Best Performance by a Pet

White dog

White dog

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  • The white dog’s work is praised as borderline Brandy Booth material and pivotal both in Gloria’s death and near the ending. — Bill Simmons
53:20

Dracula the Musical Award for Best Imitation of Real Art

Relax sequence

Relax sequence

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  • The Relax sequence receives the Dracula the Musical Award for Best Imitation of Real Art. — Bill Simmons
53:20

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Relax

Relax

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  • Relax is the unquestioned needle-drop choice over the score. — Bill Simmons
53:56

Producer review

Entertaining visual excess; well-cast Wasson except claustrophobic face

Entertaining visual excess; well-cast Wasson except claustrophobic face

In the discussion (3)
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  • The invited first-time reaction initially mistakes Relax for a dream, then finds the unexpected on-set sequence compelling and entertaining.
  • The final invited response loves the film’s excessive ambition, personal cynicism, beauty and A-list craft applied to a B-movie genre, while doubting that it has a deep message. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Wasson is defended as well cast and effective except for the claustrophobic face; possible later roles are discussed without a convincing match.
58:37

The most 1984 thing

Music video inside a film; adult-video stores and tape formats

Music video inside a film; adult-video stores and tape formats

In the discussion (1)
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  • Putting a music video inside a movie and a large adult-video section with multiple tape formats define 1984.
1:04:08

The most GIFable moment

Claustrophobic face; Peter Meter

Claustrophobic face; Peter Meter

In the discussion (1)
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  • The claustrophobic face and Peter Meter routine are the GIF candidates. — Bill Simmons
1:04:25

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

Chemosphere

Chemosphere

In the discussion (1)
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  • The Chemosphere house is the clear scene-stealing location; its 1960 Lautner design and former asking price are recalled. — Bill Simmons
1:05:22

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Reservoir ending

Reservoir ending

In the discussion (1)
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  • The reservoir ending sacrifices understandable plotting for a location De Palma liked, with a dream transition and seemingly bottomless grave, though the dog’s attack is well staged.
1:06:41

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Dog’s survival; phone confidant; whole-film dream; hypothetical casting consequences

Dog’s survival; phone confidant; whole-film dream; hypothetical casting consequences

In the discussion (8)
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  • The dog is tentatively linked with White Dog, and its survival is imagined rather than established; Sam’s failure to swim also raises a question. — Sean Fennessey
  • Whether Sam was also the man with Jake’s girlfriend is briefly wondered and considered unlikely.
  • Gloria’s payphone confidant is unidentified; an affair is presumed as a possible motive but remains speculative.
  • Jake’s physical suitability for adult performance is wondered about because his initial characterization seems inconsistent with his comfort there. — Chris Ryan
  • A hypothetical accidental casting of underage Traci Lords raises questions about removing footage or withdrawing tapes; the discussion distinguishes ordinary acting from explicit scenes and remains speculative.
  • The most humiliating sexual position to discover a partner in becomes a crude hypothetical, with doggy style proposed and a Longlegs joke added. — Bill Simmons
  • The whole story might be Jake’s claustrophobic fantasy: the spinning kiss, reservoir unreality and restored job suggest either an opening-set episode or acting-class trauma as a starting point.
  • An imagined De Palma interview confirming the dream theory is explicitly not a real statement he made. — Bill Simmons
1:07:02

What’s Aged the Worst?

Disguise stereotype; acting teacher; chaste adult-film world; Jake; Sam’s plan

Disguise stereotype; acting teacher; chaste adult-film world; Jake; Sam’s plan

In the discussion (5)
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  • The acting teacher and calling the disguised killer the Indian are criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • The conspicuous absence of drug use in the adult-film setting feels implausibly chaste. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake revealing the truth before sex with Holly is questioned, though his loser characterization offers an explanation. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake’s coffee-drinking manner and Wasson’s difficult screen presence may limit the film’s appeal, alongside its challenging surreal satire. — Chris Ryan
  • Sam’s needlessly complex murder plot and releasing the film against The Terminator are criticized. — Sean Fennessey
1:09:19

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Interrogating police detective

Interrogating police detective

In the discussion (1)
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  • The interrogating detective is selected for his aggressive panty-sniffer accusations and old-Hitchcock-cop manner; Leslie Nielsen is imagined as a funnier alternative. — Bill Simmons
1:10:23

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No

No

In the discussion (1)
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1:17:43

Clint Howard Award for the Director Loves This Guy

Dennis Franz; Gregg Henry

Dennis Franz; Gregg Henry

In the discussion (1)
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1:18:22

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Larry Flash Jenkins; Gregg Henry disputed

Larry Flash Jenkins; Gregg Henry disputed

In the discussion (2)
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  • Gregg Henry is debated as too familiar to De Palma fans but recognizable-without-a-name to others, suited to slippery untrustworthy roles.
  • Larry Flash Jenkins is the explicit vote, recognized from The White Shadow and Fletch and playing a crew member here. — Bill Simmons
1:19:30

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Sid Goldberg; Barbara Crampton

Sid Goldberg; Barbara Crampton

In the discussion (2)
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  • Barbara Crampton is a choice for her devastating look at Jake; Franz, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Linda Shaw and the end-credit double are additional candidates. — Bill Simmons
  • Sid Goldberg is another explicit winner choice for the adult-video interview, with requests for more or deleted footage. — Bill Simmons
1:21:49

What Would Tony Romo’s Director’s Commentary for This Movie Sound Like?

Doris Burke; Ryan Ruocco

Doris Burke; Ryan Ruocco

In the discussion (2)
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  • Doris Burke-style commentary recounts Jake’s humiliations and arrival at the adult-film set as a comeback story. — Chris Ryan
  • Ruocco’s You Bet call is applied to the forty-inch drill destroying Gloria’s torso; a text says he is fired up about the imitation. — Bill Simmons
1:26:30

Apex Mountain

Craig Wasson; Gregg Henry; Frankie Goes to Hollywood; 1980s adult films; telescopes; explicit body-double scenes

Craig Wasson; Gregg Henry; Frankie Goes to Hollywood; 1980s adult films; telescopes; explicit body-double scenes

In the discussion (5)
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  • Wasson is emphatically accepted, with later audiobook work noted. — Bill Simmons
  • Griffith loses to Working Girl; De Palma is debated among Scarface, Blow Out, The Untouchables and Carrie, with Scarface’s resulting deal favored.
  • 1980s adult films in mainstream movies, Gregg Henry and Frankie Goes to Hollywood are accepted; the band’s 1984 momentum and later soundtrack use are recalled. — Bill Simmons
  • Telescopes and explicit demonstrations of body doubling are accepted; rotating beds are considered but Austin Powers is an alternative, and Barry challenges acting-class scenes.
  • Characterful Los Angeles houses are considered but Heat and Greenberg become competing examples, leaving the category unsettled.
1:30:45

Cruise or Hanks?

Hanks as Jake; Cruise as Sam alternative

Hanks as Jake; Cruise as Sam alternative

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  • Hanks is the final lead-role choice. A both version assigns Cruise the slick Sam/disguised villain and Hanks Jake, correcting an initial reversed assignment.
1:31:25

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Holly Does Hollywood; Water Sports

Holly Does Hollywood; Water Sports

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  • Holly Does Hollywood is suggested uncertainly as a racehorse name, with Water Sports another name floated under the combined naming prompt. — Bill Simmons
1:39:20

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

OnlyFans-era prestige series; Holly and Jake’s production company

OnlyFans-era prestige series; Holly and Jake’s production company

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  • An OnlyFans-era prestige series is favored; a sequel could follow Holly and Jake’s production company, with an imagined hiring scandal involving Traci Lords. — Bill Simmons
1:40:16

Is This Movie Better With…?

Byron Mayo as Sid; Nell as Holly; Longlegs as assistant director

Byron Mayo as Sid; Nell as Holly; Longlegs as assistant director

In the discussion (2)
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  • Byron Mayo as Sid Goldberg in the hot tub is the main suggestion, with Nell performing Holly’s dance another joke.
  • Longlegs as the adult-film set’s AD complaining that there are no cum shots is proposed.
1:40:53

Just One Oscar

Melanie Griffith; Stephen H. Burum

Melanie Griffith; Stephen H. Burum

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  • Griffith for supporting actress and Stephen H. Burum for cinematography are choices; De Palma is also floated amid an uncertain discussion of the year’s competition.
1:45:24

Best Double Feature

Vertigo; Dressed to Kill; Working Girl
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  • Dressed to Kill and Working Girl are alternatives, but Vertigo receives explicit agreement as the strongest parallel. — Bill Simmons
1:45:50

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Holly burns brightly then fades; Jake enters adult production

Holly burns brightly then fades; Jake enters adult production

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  • Holly might burn brightly then fade while struggling to bridge into a more commercial adult-film era; the chronology of the Jameson comparison is questioned.
  • Jake is expected to move into adult production rather than mainstream stardom; a company with Holly is plausible, though why she would stay with him is questioned and access to legitimate acting is a possible motive.
1:47:02

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Telescope; drill; disguise; Holly video; underwear

Telescope; drill; disguise; Holly video; underwear

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  • The telescope is favored as usable memorabilia; drill, prosthetic disguise, fictional Holly Does Hollywood tape and Gloria’s underwear are alternatives. — Bill Simmons
1:47:37

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Distrust too-good house-sitting offers; do not follow strangers

Distrust too-good house-sitting offers; do not follow strangers

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  • Distrust an extraordinary house-sitting offer from someone barely known, and avoid following strangers for long periods. — Bill Simmons
1:47:55

Who Won the Movie?

Melanie Griffith

Melanie Griffith

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  • Griffith receives two explicit winner utterances because the film leads into major stardom; De Palma is rejected as still unhappy with its commercial failure. — Bill Simmons
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More from the conversation

Scary month is explicitly over; horny November is floated as a joke, and the film’s fortieth anniversary motivates the selection. Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey are introduced.
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De Palma’s blend of Dressed to Kill, Rear Window and Vertigo is characterized as hornier Hitchcock with exceptional craft. A reported rehabilitation-era Trivial Pursuit circle links him with Griffith.
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The film’s twisted humor and background details invite rewinding and freeze-framing, with a comparison to Lynch.
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A spouse’s rejection prompts debate about gendered appeal, while De Palma’s provocative comments about watching women and endangered female characters are discussed as his stated views.
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The excess is defended as deliberate comic satire of human appetites, while Jake is described as an unusually compromised protagonist.
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De Palma’s criticism of dialogue-led digital storytelling frames a discussion of visual structure taking precedence over dialogue and even coherent plotting.
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Teenage home viewing places the film among early-1980s erotic noir, before the more commercial late-decade thriller wave; it is seen between Body Heat and Basic Instinct.
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Griffith’s early roles, difficulties and career revival are recalled, with Something Wild, Fear City, The Milagro Beanfield War and Working Girl marking her subsequent run.
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Her look fits the era’s music, adult-film and wrestling imagery; Pacific Heights inspires a future from-hell programming joke.
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The film’s easy Los Angeles driving contrasts with a much longer present-day commute.
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Death Game is offered as another full-performance dubbing example, reportedly caused by Cassell refusing to return for ADR.
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Griffith is placed in a smart-underestimated-blonde tradition with Holliday, Monroe, Diaz and Faris, but her naughty streetwise quality makes her especially convincing as Holly.
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De Palma’s pessimism about erotic thrillers and tech-company control is qualified by the fact that Coca-Cola already owned Columbia when this film was made.
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Anora’s treatment of sex-work consequences is contrasted with Body Double’s interest in parallels between adult filmmaking and ordinary Hollywood career-selling.
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The final body-double setup exposes the machinery behind erotic imagery, echoes Dressed to Kill and prompts memories of public fascination with doubles versus stars doing their own nudity.
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The Chemosphere’s actual hillside location and impractical access are discussed, including an imagined purchase ruled out by living with a young child; other houses on stilts are compared.
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De Palma’s difficult personality, intermittent hits and changing tastes are discussed as possible reasons for fewer later opportunities, despite his action skill and influence on younger directors.
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Ebert liking the film despite disliking slashers becomes a joke about erotic appeal winning out, followed by an imagined costumed review show.
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Jake’s brief alcoholism reference is followed by casual heavy drinking while he waits to watch the neighbor.
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The voyeurism is read either as ordinary looking taken further or as an accusation that the viewer shares Jake’s desire to keep watching.
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Films where someone discovers a partner having sex prompt Old School and Sideways comparisons and an unresolved request for another remembered example.
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Other film homes for sale prompt a remembered, abandoned idea of filming Ringer videos at the Boogie Nights house; its location is corrected to Covina/West Covina.
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Real cable and public-access adult-industry talk shows are recalled as possible models, including an uncertain Gloria Leonard identification and later Night Calls.
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A critical reading links voyeurism with Jake trying to recover imagined control after humiliation.
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A future Scarface episode becomes a joke about a marathon recording and drug-fueled method podcasting.
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An abandoned take comparing Frankie Goes to Hollywood with Queen is explicitly withdrawn after discussion; Relax is defended without retaining the broader ranking.
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The film’s lasting idiosyncrasy is defended within De Palma’s pattern of alternating hits with indulgent work; Raising Cain and Carlito’s Way prompt disagreement.
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Pacino’s memoir and a possible discussion video are floated, including reported unusual anecdotes and a claim about never trying cocaine.
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A path through De Palma’s earlier films is suggested, with future episodes and a possible themed month floated rather than announced as current.
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Craig’s producer credit is spoken with a surname transcribed Horleback; Chris and Sean are thanked, and the video version is promoted.
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