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The Color of Money

1986 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Sean Fennessey

Aired October 19, 2021

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Body Double

Half-Assed Internet Research

Body-double premise; casting and dubbing; box office; locations; audition rumors

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Approx. transcript time · 00:06:43Read transcript
  • De Palma’s combative interview style and post-Scarface three-picture deal are connected with doubling down on sex and violence; the body-double idea reportedly grew from Dressed to Kill.
  • Robert Avrech reportedly worked from De Palma’s reinterpretations of Hitchcock, and the studio rejected the original plan for unsimulated sex. — Bill Simmons
  • Shelton’s performance was reportedly redubbed by Helen Shaver, an unusual American-production choice; an interview suggests Shelton’s own voice is normal, while Shaver’s sultry tone is praised.
  • Griffith’s casting and nomination revived her career; De Palma reportedly knew her through Trivial Pursuit with Stephen Bauer and recovering actors. — Bill Simmons
  • A $10 million budget and $8.8 million gross are reported; De Palma’s continued sense of failure contrasts with later affection for the movie. — Bill Simmons
  • Kael’s disappointment is contrasted with Ebert’s praise and her earlier De Palma advocacy; her Hollywood experience and critical judgments are debated.
  • The discussion identifies several real adult performers and Bauer’s cameo, while naming Michael Kearns as the stunt-cock performer; these are podcast casting claims rather than newly verified metadata. — Bill Simmons
  • Locations are listed with explicit uncertainty about the Beverly Center and whether the video store is Tower; the Chemosphere is preferred as the defining Los Angeles place. — Bill Simmons
  • The Relax set was reportedly reused for Fright Night’s nightclub sequence. — Bill Simmons
  • Jake’s car is identified as a 1967 Chevrolet Camaro RS convertible, prompting jokes about jumping into cars. — Bill Simmons
  • De Palma denies a persistent rumor of many women performing private auditions at his home, saying only Haven and Griffith worked there on the routine; the response is teased but not established as false. — Bill Simmons
  • Griffith’s routine audition tape was reportedly destroyed at her request. — Bill Simmons
The Color of Money

Picking Nits

Eddie’s work and unexplained moral shift

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Approx. transcript time · 01:09:51Read transcript
  • Eddie’s liquor-wholesaling and possible bootlegging business are clarified — Bill Simmons
  • Eddie’s tournament forfeit and sudden rejection of hustling are criticized as insufficiently dramatized — Chris Ryan
  • The Amos hustle is defended as a crisis that makes Eddie value excellence and honest victory; his private celebration after beating Vincent demonstrates that change — Sean Fennessey
  • Eddie is interpreted as believing he is in a sports movie while Vincent reveals they remain in a con-man movie
  • The defense is rebutted because Eddie invented and taught the con before abruptly disavowing it — Bill Simmons
  • Vincent’s claim that Eddie used the young pair is interpreted as Eddie using their journey to rediscover his passion
  • A late-night bar conversation with Helen Shaver is proposed as the missing explanatory scene — Chris Ryan
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