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Casting What-Ifs
Chase; Shandling; Allen; Stone; Aykroyd; Candy; Busey; Connery; Caine
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:13:42Read transcript
- Chevy Chase and Garry Shandling are discussed as earlier possibilities, with Chase considered a good fit; Woody Allen is considered too old.
- Stone reportedly wanted both Harriet and Rose and left when refused; the dual-role idea is admired.
- Myers reportedly wanted Dan Aykroyd as his friend, but Coneheads conflicted.
- John Candy reportedly could not play the captain, and Gary Busey left Vicky for Rookie of the Year.
- Reported approaches to Sean Connery and Michael Caine for Stuart are treated uncertainly, with relief that Myers played him.
J.A. Adande Award for Looking the Same Age
J.A. Adande; Dean Norris; Morgan Freeman; Michael Caine
The panel proposes a new category here.
In the discussion (1)
Approx. transcript time · 01:01:17Read transcript
- Dean Norris’s seemingly unchanged age prompts a proposed J.A. Adande award for someone who has looked the same throughout the observer’s life, with Freeman and Caine added.
In the discussion (5)
Approx. transcript time · 01:26:55Read transcript
- Sly Stallone is ruled out; the film was not ultimately a win for him.
- Pele: he nails the bicycle kick, made soccer seem cool, and the film became his legacy for 40 years.
- Michael Caine, for showing he could act under any circumstances, with the film shooting around his soccer limits.
- Pele is the second vote, for two Peles and one Michael Caine. — Chris Ryan
- Soccer is floated as the sleeper pick and affirmed as a good one, since the film may have gotten people to play soccer like Breaking Away did for cycling.
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Apex Mountain
Ipswich Town; two-man sit-ups; Michael Caine saying "bloody"
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:03:55Read transcript
- Stallone, Pele and Michael Caine are all ruled out.
- Ipswich Town is a yes, repping well in the film amid their trophy run.
- Werner Roth is probably not; John Houston, soccer and the Dobermans are no, and Ardiles's peak remains the 1978 World Cup.
- Two-man sit-ups are Apex Mountain for old-school calisthenics, with no question.
- Good Nazis: Von Sido is great but this is not his Apex Mountain.
- Apex Mountain for the word bloody, used in this movie the way fucking is used in Wolf of Wall Street.
What’s Aged the Worst?
Pelé's bald patch; retitling to Victory; Ipswich Town's decline; Michael Caine's soccer; Stallone's goalkeeping; no scrimmage scene; Pelé celebrating with broken ribs; Hatch's Paris subplot; Russell Osman's unsold kit
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Approx. transcript time · 00:45:13Read transcript
- Pele's bald patch looked almost like a toupee; the other host had not noticed it.
- Changing the title from Escape to Victory to just Victory.
- Everyone being impressed by Pele's juggling is raised, but countered that in the 1940s it would have been mind-blowing.
- Ipswich Town kind of peaked here and has fallen on hard times.
- Michael Caine the soccer player: per the internet, leg issues meant a stunt player, Kevin Beattie, did his running scenes, and Ardiles reportedly called him awful and unable to run 20 yards.
- Stallone's goalkeeping is tough and his team role fluid; the counter is that the film never claims he is good, though holding off the Germans and saving a penalty from a top player is highly unlikely.
- There is no good scrimmage or practice scene, while 13 minutes go to Sly and the French woman; the film gets to know only Caine, Stallone and the colonel, unlike The Dirty Dozen or The Great Escape.
- John Wark reportedly said Stallone wanted to score the winning goal; a corner-kick version was tried, and the penalty save took six rehearsal takes.
- Pele jumping in to celebrate with seven broken ribs.
- The German goalie tried to save the bicycle kick for realism, and no wide shot of the actual kick could be filmed.
- Hatch's escape and Paris sojourn could be cut entirely; it seems added to introduce a female character, and his capture is never shown, though his shower escape from camp is liked.
- Russell Osmond reportedly kept his whole kit, a signed ball and a director's chair; they should go up for internet auction.
Casting What-Ifs
Gene Wilder and Michael Caine were considered for Royal before Gene Hackman accepted the role.
This discussion recalls a choice from an earlier episode.
In the discussion (6)
Approx. transcript time · 01:04:50Read transcript
- Gene Wilder is reported as a candidate for Royal Tenenbaum.
- Michael Caine is described as the second choice after Hackman resisted the part.
- Hackman objected to a role written for him, a three-month commitment, and scale pay.
- Hackman accepted after learning that the production had turned toward Caine.
- The participants think Caine could have been good but that his casting would create a completely different movie.
- Anderson's early family drawings included other unidentified actor ideas that cannot be recovered from the transcript.
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