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Creed

2015 film

Bill Simmons · Chris Ryan · Sean Fennessey · Van Lathan

Aired February 19, 2024

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  • Stormare is considered too recognizable and better suited to Dion Waiters; Patrick Kilpatrick and Steve Harris are candidates, with Harris’s television recognition qualified.
  • Arye Gross is considered recognizable in his own right; The Experts prompts an enthusiastic recommendation.
  • Steve Harris receives an explicit choice; his relationship to Wood Harris inspires an imagined role in The Wire.
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What’s Aged the Best?

Rocky homages; reluctant mentor; Bianca; boxing; media realism; Wood Harris

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  • Aged best: subtle Rocky homages, including chicken chasing and Kellerman contrasting Balboa’s body shots with Creed’s head shots.
  • Aged best: Rocky’s reluctant acceptance of training Donnie, especially the restaurant-food unloading and eventual gym arrival.
  • A provocative aged-best nomination praises emotional manipulation: Donnie reveals Rocky’s illness to get Bianca to open her door. The exchange is joking rather than an endorsement of real-world conduct.
  • Aged best: realistic YouTube and 24/7 media touches, the large Mickey gym poster, and Coogler’s intimate camerawork in the upside-down kiss and cheesesteak booths.
  • Andre Ward’s career peak is debated against his earlier run and Kovalev fights; this period is only probably when he was most prominent, not a firm film-Apex award.
  • Aged best: Wood Harris as Duke’s son, with the irony of The Wire’s Avon refusing to train the actor who played Wallace; more Harris is a reason for sequels.
  • Aged best: Stallone was reportedly 69 at release, the same age as Burgess Meredith in Rocky. Donnie calling Rocky Unc is also introduced.
  • Burgess Meredith’s aged appearance prompts jokes about earlier roles and smoking.
  • Aged best: Conlan’s trainer and his demand that Adonis use Creed’s name; the Kobe-number 24 jacket is admired. Donnie’s fictional Los Angeles upbringing is offered as the reason he would idolize Kobe, whose Philadelphia connection is also noted.
  • Jordan reportedly told Bill he took a real punch for the eleventh-round knockdown at Stallone’s insistence, continuing a franchise tradition; the Leo fight is reiterated as aged best.
  • Aged best: producers taking a chance on young Coogler, and Bianca having an independent, written character rather than the obstructive sports-movie-girlfriend role. Rocky IV’s Adrian prompts a long mocking contrast.
  • Tony Bellew’s acting as Conlan is praised and Everton promotion noted.
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