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Candy receives insufficient historical respect

Bill Simmons: Candy under-respected and skipped between Belushi/Farley despite most enduring body of work.

Bill Simmons: Belushi most talented,Farley funniest,Candy best blend and stronger acting discussed.

The film

Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987)

Directed by John Hughes · Comedy

92 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Steve Martin Neal Page
John Candy Del Griffith
Laila Robins Susan Page
Michael McKean State trooper
Dylan Baker Owen Mooney
Olivia Burnette Marti Page

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

16:40

Half-Assed Internet Research

Deleted wife, pizza, beer and reimbursement scenes; production logistics, improvisation and generosity anecdotes.

Deleted wife, pizza, beer and reimbursement scenes; production logistics, improvisation and generosity anecdotes.

In the discussion (8)
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  • Deleted subplot had Neil wife disbelieve Del existence; Wichita suspicion survives. — Bill Simmons
  • Editor reportedly restored Del offer to reimburse Neil, changing screening audiences from seeing exploitation; host skeptical of impact. — Bill Simmons
  • Deleted pizza scene explains low tip and later returning thief. — Bill Simmons
  • Deleted beer explosion better omitted but pizza-tip/theft explanation preferred restored; robbery otherwise seems random. — Bill Simmons
  • Exterior plane reportedly same as Airplane; Blue Room cover because Paul Young approval unavailable. — Bill Simmons
  • Transport companies avoided inept depiction, fictional companies used; Neil house reportedly built seven months100000dollars angering Paramount. — Bill Simmons
  • Candy brought exercise equipment never used according to Martin; Baker spit-hand adlib at Hughes direction around take11 elicited real disgust. — Bill Simmons
  • Candy reportedly generous, invited film workers for1000dollars pizza during Oscars. — Bill Simmons
23:13

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Del’s home may be emotional rather than literal; whether a bus qualifies as an automobile remains unsettled.

Del’s home may be emotional rather than literal; whether a bus qualifies as an automobile remains unsettled.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Del may have a physical home but avoid it because of his dead wife; literal homelessness considered less likely, destination Chicago raises ambiguity. — Bill Simmons
  • Why title omits Buses? Bus qualifies as automobile asserted then uncertainty/search leads semantics, unresolved. — Bill Simmons
38:54

Casting What-Ifs

Reported Hanks and Travolta alternatives prompt disagreement about age and role suitability.

Reported Hanks and Travolta alternatives prompt disagreement about age and role suitability.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Tom Hanks considered plausible later but too youthful then; hard-ass performance not familiar until League of Their Own aside from Turner and Hooch. — Bill Simmons
  • Hughes reportedly wanted Hanks as Neil,Travolta as Del; Hanks filming Big, could work with younger children; different suggestion Travolta could nail Neil. — Bill Simmons
  • Paramount reportedly vetoed Travolta as box-office poison after Perfect/Staying Alive; later Look Who’s Talking rebound noted. — Bill Simmons
45:40

Most Rewatchable Scene

Wrong-way driving; hotel check-in through the pillows; the emotional return (best essential scene)

Wrong-way driving; hotel check-in through the pillows; the emotional return (best essential scene)

In the discussion (13)
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  • Opening boardroom delay,Bacon cameo and cab theft get film moving without dead time. — Bill Simmons
  • Room/one-bed discovery,disgusting shower and sleep noises; forty-five minutes footage reported, cuts arguably better. — Bill Simmons
  • Tirade and hurt reply elite; reading vomit bag singled out.
  • Those arent pillows iconic line and defensive Bears talk funny; sexual insecurity in shower invitation/bed scene noted. — Van Lathan
  • Ring sales and dinner when Del emphasizes missed Thanksgiving pageant precious moments praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Rental-agreement disposal and dangerous airport walk create justified fury; counter clerk response devastatingly funny,19 swear words and Nichols advice recalled. — Van Lathan
  • Car ball-handling argument; extra balls/fingers reply favorite line. — Bill Simmons
  • Wrong-way sequence with skeletons/devil should not work but masterful silly comedy. — Van Lathan
  • Drunk hotel bonding needed, compared with Midnight Run train chicken exchange. — Bill Simmons
  • Final truth confession/return and walk home praised; The longer monologue was reportedly cut, not in released deleted footage. — Bill Simmons
  • One preference wrong-way driving as most rewatchable, distinguishes emotional return as best essential scene. — Van Lathan
  • Other preference hotel check-in through Those arent pillows, would keep watching from channel surfing. — Bill Simmons
  • Bus singalong explicitly recalled for most rewatchable: Neil Three Coins in a Fountain vs Del universally known Flintstones shows difference. — Van Lathan
56:39

What’s Aged the Best?

Candy’s quirks, ordinary antagonists, callback details and unpredictable travel.

Candy’s quirks, ordinary antagonists, callback details and unpredictable travel.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Canadian Mounted airport reading and Griswold-mobile callback. — Bill Simmons
  • Hughes ordinary service-worker villains indifferent to protagonists; Vacation dead aunt/sandwich grotesque humor comparison. — Van Lathan
  • Candy shower-ring occupation,shoe relief,constant smoking and corny work/wife motto praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Whopper/hot seat quips and singular physical performance compared with Tommy Boy. — Bill Simmons
  • Travel remains a dice game despite careful plans. — Bill Simmons
1:01:20

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Mess Around.

Mess Around.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Mess Around definite choice and agreement. — Bill Simmons
1:01:57

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Deleted hot-dog-and-cigarette scene versus Doritos with tequila in the hotel.

Deleted hot-dog-and-cigarette scene versus Doritos with tequila in the hotel.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Deleted hot-dog/cigarette scene selected despite exclusion from film. — Bill Simmons
  • Alternative Doritos with tequila while raiding hotel minibar. — Van Lathan
1:02:12

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

None

None

In the discussion (1)
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  • No scene-stealing location identified; everyday places suit film. — Bill Simmons
1:02:33

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Braidwood Inn wide shot and Del alone in the car under falling snow.

Braidwood Inn wide shot and Del alone in the car under falling snow.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Wide exterior of Braidwood Inn sign suggested. — Van Lathan
  • Del alone in car with falling snow moving alternative, agreement. — Bill Simmons
1:03:06

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The wife and family lack development after subplot cuts.

The wife and family lack development after subplot cuts.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Wife/family underwritten after cuts; a daughter recital phone call could establish affection. — Bill Simmons
  • Lawrence child uncertain; wife actress reportedly expected Roxanne lead before this and lost major subplot, cut arguably helps. — Van Lathan
1:04:27

What’s Aged the Worst?

Traveling sales, the cover song and pre-digital travel habits.

Traveling sales, the cover song and pre-digital travel habits.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Traveling shower-ring salesman obsolete with Amazon. — Bill Simmons
  • Cover of Every Time You Go Away instead of the Paul Young version regretted; rights reportedly unavailable. — Bill Simmons
  • Smoking,no phones/apps/Uber/Lyft/Airbnb,travel suits,arriving two minutes before flight and no text/email contact exchange dated. — Bill Simmons
  • Remake must address modern communication; finding separated friends used to require investigation/phonebooks. — Van Lathan
1:06:56

The Ron Burgundy Flute Award for the Best Time for a Pee Break

About 90 seconds after the car fire and hotel check-in, before Del outside in snow.

About 90 seconds after the car fire and hotel check-in, before Del outside in snow.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Tight film allows90seconds after car fire/new hotel check-in before Del outside in snow. — Bill Simmons
1:07:13

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No better title.

No better title.

In the discussion (1)
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1:07:13

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

Those aren’t pillows; ball-lifting and sideways-baby lines are runner-up suggestions.

Those aren’t pillows; ball-lifting and sideways-baby lines are runner-up suggestions.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Those arent pillows must win; picked up by balls runner-up. — Bill Simmons
  • Short skinny strong wife and sideways baby monologue alternate runner-up. — Bill Simmons
1:09:20

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Candy receives insufficient historical respect; Belushi, Farley and Candy are compared on talent, humor and acting.

Candy receives insufficient historical respect; Belushi, Farley and Candy are compared on talent, humor and acting.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Candy under-respected and skipped between Belushi/Farley despite most enduring body of work. — Bill Simmons
  • Belushi most talented,Farley funniest,Candy best blend and stronger acting discussed. — Bill Simmons
  • No additional hot take offered. — Bill Simmons
1:12:12

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

None

None

In the discussion (1)
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  • No overacting identified; category scrapped. — Bill Simmons
1:12:12

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Unidentified actor playing Ferris Bueller’s father preferred over several recognizable supporting faces.

Unidentified actor playing Ferris Bueller’s father preferred over several recognizable supporting faces.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ben Stein,Edie McClurg,Ferris father,Friends cab driver,Longest Yard Unger hotel clerk candidates; unidentified Ferris father preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Ferris father instant recognition in tiny youll never make six role explains choice. — Bill Simmons
1:13:00

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Dylan Baker as Gus’s son.

Dylan Baker as Gus’s son.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Dylan Baker is the definite choice; his disgusting and off-putting two minutes are hilarious. — Van Lathan
1:13:26

Recasting Couch

Clooney, Affleck and several all-Black pairings considered; remaking the film is opposed despite hypothetical casting.

Clooney, Affleck and several all-Black pairings considered; remaking the film is opposed despite hypothetical casting.

In the discussion (6)
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  • Clooney2000s ideal Neil,Affleck proposed but perhaps too old now. — Bill Simmons
  • British casting joke leads Daniel Kaluuya as Neil; Kevin Hart suggested then Tracy Morgan as Del preferred. — Bill Simmons
  • Reported Will Smith/Kevin Hart remake opposed; ask for new material. — Bill Simmons
  • Uptown Saturday Night remake had appealed, but this remains rewatchable so no remake; Total Recall remake anger comparison. — Van Lathan
  • Chappelle as weird Del proposed; Half Baked praised and Ben Simmons dislike reported. — Bill Simmons
  • Idris Elba too attractive to face obstacles rejected; Sterling K Brown with Chappelle preferred conditional on Chappelle commitment. — Van Lathan
1:17:16

Apex Mountain

Martin no; Candy’s Uncle Buck; road-movie split between this and Midnight Run; Thanksgiving movie and train stop yes.

Martin no; Candy’s Uncle Buck; road-movie split between this and Midnight Run; Thanksgiving movie and train stop yes.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Martin no; late70s standup/The Jerk likely peak, second film career acknowledged. — Bill Simmons
  • Candy Uncle Buck agreed because carries film despite this film remembered more fondly; Stripes important alternative and Culkin/Home Alone follow-on. — Bill Simmons
  • Mid80s Chicago Ferris Bueller; road movies disagreement this vs Midnight Run, best decade broadly praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Due Date and Tommy Boy derivative; Road Trip favorite,Overnight Delivery and The Chase recalled, kidnapped Silverstone film unresolved until276. — Bill Simmons
  • LaSalle Van Buren train stop yes; Thanksgiving movies unequivocal yes. — Bill Simmons
1:20:06

Best Race Horse Name from This Movie

Bradwood / Braywood, with transcript spelling unresolved.

Bradwood / Braywood, with transcript spelling unresolved.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Bradwood/Braywood suggested, observed spelling unstable. — Van Lathan
1:20:06

Picking Nits

Money and shared room, bathroom timing, driving duration, burnt-car safety, black eye and short overall ordeal.

Money and shared room, bathroom timing, driving duration, burnt-car safety, black eye and short overall ordeal.

In the discussion (7)
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  • Why spend75dollars on cab not own hotel room? Only-one-room and Neil pays correction debated; Craig correction acknowledged.
  • Neil money unresolved,extra50dollars room argued despite no vacancies; one traveler should sleep on floor. — Van Lathan
  • Dirty bathroom timing explained by deleted Del havoc after Neil enters shower. — Bill Simmons
  • StLouis–Chicago drive only4–4.5hours questioned against apparent12hours. — Van Lathan
  • Burnt car drivability/hot upholstery and freezing open vehicle/truck exposure implausible. — Bill Simmons
  • Burglar explained earlier; black eye reportedly Neil punches Del in unshown deleted scene, removal appropriate to character. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Craig invited nitpick:Tuesday–Thursday ordeal exaggerated,underwear since Tuesday is only day/36hours; leaving Monday would help. — Craig Horlbeck
1:24:49

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Untouchable, with conditional interest in a different all-Black cast and curiosity about the aftermath.

Untouchable, with conditional interest in a different all-Black cast and curiosity about the aftermath.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Untouchable agreed; all-black cast tempting but not announced Will Smith/Hart version, sequel aftermath curiosity. — Bill Simmons
1:25:18

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Illness and a limited stay before marital conflict, or Del becoming an Uncle Buck figure.

Illness and a limited stay before marital conflict, or Del becoming an Uncle Buck figure.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Both bronchitis/sick; Del stays5–6days until wife threatens divorce. — Bill Simmons
  • Alternative Del becomes uncle/childminder, joking shadow Uncle Buck connection. — Bill Simmons
1:27:30

Is This Movie Better With…?

Buscemi belongs somewhere in the film.

Buscemi belongs somewhere in the film.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Buscemi definitely belongs somewhere; no specific role chosen. — Bill Simmons
1:27:44

Just One Oscar

Candy

Candy

In the discussion (1)
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  • Candy agreed, then screenplay alternative noted. — Bill Simmons
1:28:34

Best Double Feature

Christmas Vacation, after initial Vacation and Uncle Buck suggestions
In the discussion (2)
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  • Vacation first then this, or this leading into Uncle Buck offered. — Bill Simmons
  • Christmas Vacation after this preferred holiday sequence, acknowledged better; Christmas Vacation best Vacation film asserted and Home Alone not-Christmas-movie stance mentioned. — Bill Simmons
1:29:29

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Del’s shower curtain rings or trunk.

Del’s shower curtain rings or trunk.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Del shower curtain rings selected. — Bill Simmons
  • Del trunk alternative,almost character/display piece despite weight. — Bill Simmons
1:30:07

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Keep the wallet out of the glove compartment; ask people about their trauma.

Keep the wallet out of the glove compartment; ask people about their trauma.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Never wallet in glove compartment,fire risk. — Bill Simmons
  • Ask about trauma and whether someone is okay; earlier connection could uncover Del pain. — Van Lathan
1:30:46

Who Won the Movie?

John Candy named and repeated; unique speaker count unverified.

John Candy named and repeated; unique speaker count unverified.

In the discussion (1)
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Opening travel anxiety relatable; nominally noble family-bound Martin becomes less relatable antagonist.
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Early Candy memories SCTV,1941,Blues Brothers and Stripes; Blues Brothers considered partly road movie/musical.
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Martin quoted on Candy sweetness/broken heart and deleted final monologue; lean finale invites relitigating earlier clues.
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Other speaker Ferris Bueller favorite Hughes movie, Christmas Vacation favorite Christmas movie; temptation acknowledged but no revised overall favorite.
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Minor characters such as Dylan Baker trucker and Cousin Eddie exceptional; flawed Griswold remains relatable despite attempted infidelity.
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Hughes mostly white Midwestern settings still relatable across race/geography through familiar cousins,rich uncles and tricksters; Louisiana family anecdote.
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Del immediate authenticity admired.
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Martin everyman phase1986–92; The Jerk/Airplane/Animal House cultural fading and offensive material discussed.
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