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I'm more afraid of being nothing than being hurt is selected as a life lesson.

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Days of Thunder (1990)

Directed by Tony Scott · Sports

107 minutes

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45:31

Chest Rockwell / Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name

Rowdy Burns

Rowdy Burns

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  • Cole Trickle, Rowdy Burns, Harry Hogge, and Buddy Bretherton are nominated for best character name. — Bill Simmons
  • Rowdy Burns wins because the name immediately conveys a fiery, unruly personality.
47:01

Dr. Claire Lewicki Award for Worst Character Name

Dr. Claire Lewicki

Dr. Claire Lewicki

In the discussion (5)
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  • Dr. Claire Lewicki is selected as the worst character name, which the participants find ill-matched to the Australian character. — Bill Simmons
  • Dr. Claire Sanders is offered as an alternative after casting Nicole Kidman.
  • A phone-book name choice is jokingly suggested as an explanation. — Kyle Brandt
  • Cole Trickle and Russ Wheeler are praised as stronger names by comparison. — Kyle Brandt
  • A hypothetical wedding announcement and Lewicki-Trickle surname extend the joke.
48:24

Most Rewatchable Scene

Wheelchair race; Give Me Some Lovin montage; Rowdy meets Cole

Wheelchair race; Give Me Some Lovin montage; Rowdy meets Cole

In the discussion (12)
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  • Cole's motorcycle entrance, test-drive challenge, and status contest with Rowdy are proposed.
  • Cole's disastrous first races and the Give Me Some Lovin montage are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Cole's first win, Harry's tire deception, and the low-side pass are proposed.
  • The staged police stop and its sexual joke are proposed, alongside questions about what happens after the scene.
  • Cole mistaking Dr. Lewicki for another stripper and the hospital wheelchair race are proposed.
  • The beach rental-car race and valet exchange are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Cole ruining Russ Wheeler's victory lap is proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Cole and Harry's confrontation over driving Rowdy's car is praised as the principal acting scene, with objections to the abruptly revived backstory.
  • Cole's Daytona comeback through the smoke and the final high-versus-low pass are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • The wheelchair race is a final selection for one participant. — Kyle Brandt
  • The Give Me Some Lovin montage is a separate final selection.
  • Rowdy's first encounter with Cole is a separate final selection. — Bill Simmons
1:01:17

The most 1990 thing

David Coverdale sings the theme at Tom Cruise’s request

David Coverdale sings the theme at Tom Cruise’s request

In the discussion (4)
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  • Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman falling in love during the production is proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • The Tide, Snickers, Skoal, Exxon, and Mello Yello sponsorships are proposed. — Bill Simmons
  • Russ Wheeler's girlfriend, her hair, and her boxy blazer are proposed as distinctly 1990.
  • The winning choice is Tom Cruise requesting Whitesnake singer David Coverdale for the film's theme song. — Bill Simmons
1:03:42

What’s Aged the Best?

Robert Duvall, craft, cast, and racing lessons

Robert Duvall, craft, cast, and racing lessons

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1:12:19

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Two Sweet’N Low packets

Two Sweet’N Low packets

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  • Mello Yello sponsorship and the dinner crudités are proposed.
  • The two Sweet’N Low packets placed on Claire’s thigh win.
1:13:14

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

Daytona cars beneath rising balloons

Daytona cars beneath rising balloons

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  • A low-angle Daytona shot of the cars passing as balloons rise is selected for its color and scale. — Chris Ryan
  • The physical-exam two-shot revealing the height difference between Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise is an alternate comic choice.
1:14:24

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Rowdy's wife as house designer

Rowdy's wife as house designer

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  • Rowdy's plan to let his wife design an expensive house despite no stated architecture or project-management experience is the selection. — Chris Ryan
1:14:48

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

The post-crash middle section

The post-crash middle section

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  • Rowdy never receiving a full-intensity Michael Rooker scene is identified as a small weakness. — Kyle Brandt
  • Too much talking and too little racing in the second half is the principal weakness. — Kyle Brandt
  • The crash is argued to occur too early, leaving too little of Cole racing at his peak.
  • Rowdy's injury subplot and Cole and Claire's conflict are criticized; killing Rowdy or giving Harry an illness subplot are proposed alternatives. — Bill Simmons
1:17:16

The Teddy KGB Award for the Actor in a Completely Different Movie

Nicole Kidman as an elite neurosurgeon

Nicole Kidman as an elite neurosurgeon

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  • A visibly young Nicole Kidman playing an elite neurosurgeon is selected as implausible casting.
1:18:37

What’s Aged the Worst?

Video game, overloaded subplots, rushed win, courtship, and sex scenes

Video game, overloaded subplots, rushed win, courtship, and sex scenes

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  • The Days of Thunder video game is criticized as unusually poor for a film suited to an arcade adaptation. — Bill Simmons
  • The film is criticized for carrying too many underdeveloped backstories, including Bucky's father. — Chris Ryan
  • Cole's muted reaction to winning Daytona is criticized as rushed and insufficiently celebratory. — Bill Simmons
  • Cole's pursuit of Claire is criticized as intrusive from the exam-room contact through the parking-lot wait and apartment flowers. — Kyle Brandt
  • Harry's rapid car-building montage is criticized for skipping potentially interesting craft detail. — Bill Simmons
  • Tim Daland's generic name and the unclear financing of the two-car team are questioned.
  • Cole's bedroom scene with Claire is criticized as another awkward, ambiguous Tom Cruise love scene. — Bill Simmons
1:26:54

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Tom Cruise in the car; Robert Duvall laughing

Tom Cruise in the car; Robert Duvall laughing

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1:27:45

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Old Tom Cruise teeth; Cocktail 2

Old Tom Cruise teeth; Cocktail 2

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1:32:26

Casting What-Ifs

Kurt Russell, Robin Wright, Tom Sizemore, Dale Earnhardt, Paul Newman

Kurt Russell, Robin Wright, Tom Sizemore, Dale Earnhardt, Paul Newman

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1:34:50

The Danny McBride Award for Playing Yourself

NASCAR figures and Dr. Jerry Punch

NASCAR figures and Dr. Jerry Punch

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1:35:06

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

J. C. Quinn

J. C. Quinn

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  • J. C. Quinn is selected for his recognizable roles in Maximum Overdrive, Vision Quest, and The Program.
  • Nick Searcy is an alternate for his law-enforcement roles in The Fugitive and Justified and his appearance in Cast Away. — Kyle Brandt
  • Margo Martindale is noted as having graduated beyond That Guy status. — Bill Simmons
1:36:17

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Leilani Sarelle

Leilani Sarelle

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1:37:53

Recasting Couch

Val Kilmer as Russ Wheeler

Val Kilmer as Russ Wheeler

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  • Val Kilmer is proposed as Russ Wheeler, potentially carrying his Jim Morrison styling into the role. — Bill Simmons
1:38:21

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

No replacement beats Days of Thunder

No replacement beats Days of Thunder

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  • Daytona, Trickle, Dropping the Hammer, and Checkered Flag are considered as alternatives. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel remains dissatisfied with the title but does not find a clearly better replacement. — Bill Simmons
1:39:13

Half-Assed Internet Research

Cars, birds, relationships, speeding, and role preparation

Cars, birds, relationships, speeding, and role preparation

In the discussion (5)
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  • Hendrick Motorsports supplied the main cars, which were entered in real races for footage. — Bill Simmons
  • Birdseed used for the rental-car beach scene reportedly led to birds being struck during filming. — Bill Simmons
  • Donna Scott appeared in the police-stop scene, later dated Tony Scott, and married him. — Bill Simmons
  • Tom Cruise reportedly received a speeding ticket in North Carolina during production. — Bill Simmons
  • Nicole Kidman reportedly wanted to study neurosurgery, but producers discouraged it.
1:40:23

Apex Mountain

Mello Yello and car-racing movies; several near-apex cases

Mello Yello and car-racing movies; several near-apex cases

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1:42:25

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Martin Scorsese

Martin Scorsese

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  • Martin Scorsese is selected for the imagined version because of the panel’s affection for The Color of Money and the prospect of a darker production story. — Bill Simmons
1:42:51

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play?

Russ Wheeler, Harry Hogge, Bucky, or Big John

Russ Wheeler, Harry Hogge, Bucky, or Big John

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  • Philip Seymour Hoffman is proposed as an older Harry Hogge or younger Bucky.
  • Russ Wheeler is favored as a cocky antagonist, with Big John as another scene-stealing possibility.
1:43:49

Best Movie-Related Fantasy Football Team Name From This Movie

Cole Tricklers; Japanese Inspection

Cole Tricklers; Japanese Inspection

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  • Cole Trickle and Cole Tricklers are proposed as team names. — Bill Simmons
  • Japanese Inspection is proposed as a punk-band name. — Bill Simmons
1:44:02

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

I'm more afraid of being nothing than I am of being hurt

I'm more afraid of being nothing than I am of being hurt

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  • I'm more afraid of being nothing than I am of being hurt is proposed. — Chris Ryan
  • You can't hide from your bad luck is proposed. — Chris Ryan
  • Rowdy's reflection that he hated farming until racing made him want a farm is proposed. — Chris Ryan
1:45:00

Picking Nits

Origins, romance, safety, car knowledge, and repetitive passing

Origins, romance, safety, car knowledge, and repetitive passing

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  • Cole's background as an Eagle Rock NASCAR driver is questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Claire falling for Cole almost immediately despite his conduct is questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Claire having no boyfriend and claiming to work around the clock are questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Claire's condemnation of racing danger is contrasted with riding a motorcycle without a helmet. — Kyle Brandt
  • The trope of a passenger threatening to jump from a moving car is questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Cole's open-wheel experience is inconsistent with his claimed ignorance of cars. — Chris Ryan
  • His rapid shift to technical car expertise is questioned. — Chris Ryan
  • The racing action relies too heavily on high-side passes. — Chris Ryan
  • Cole being a fast learner is offered as a counterexplanation for his rapid acquisition of car expertise. — Chris Ryan
1:47:23

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A sequel with Tom Cruise

A sequel with Tom Cruise

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  • A Days of Thunder sequel is discussed, with skepticism that Tom Cruise would yield the central driving role to a younger character.
  • Cole's minor eye injury is criticized as inadequate for the severity of the crash. — Chris Ryan
1:48:45

Is This Movie Better With…?

Wilford Brimley in The Firm

Wilford Brimley in The Firm

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1:50:34

Just One Oscar

Hans Zimmer

Hans Zimmer

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1:50:51

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Daytona odds, pace car, Cruise–Kidman timing, and alternate Harry

Daytona odds, pace car, Cruise–Kidman timing, and alternate Harry

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  • Cole's Daytona odds after his crash and in another driver's car are estimated at 100-to-1 or longer. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel doubts it would be good at driving a pace car because of the banking and attention. — Kyle Brandt
  • The timing of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman beginning their relationship is debated as either casting or after the hallway kiss. — Kyle Brandt
  • Jack Nicholson is proposed as Harry if Robert Duvall had made The Godfather Part III instead. — Bill Simmons
  • That substitution is recognized as potentially changing A Few Good Men. — Bill Simmons
1:53:06

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Mello Yello racing suit

Mello Yello racing suit

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  • A Superflo hat is proposed.
  • Cole Trickle's embroidered Mello Yello racing suit wins as a possible child Halloween costume. — Bill Simmons
1:53:31

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Cole and Claire break up

Cole and Claire break up

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  • The panel agrees Cole and Claire are unlikely to remain together.
  • Claire's racing objections and improbable availability to attend races are cited as sources of incompatibility.
1:54:29

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Rubbing is racing

Rubbing is racing

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  • I'm more afraid of being nothing than being hurt is selected as a life lesson.
  • Rubbing is racing is selected as an alternate lesson applicable beyond the track. — Kyle Brandt
1:54:44

Best Double Feature

Days of Thunder, Far and Away, and Eyes Wide Shut

Days of Thunder, Far and Away, and Eyes Wide Shut

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1:55:05

Who Won the Movie?

No consensus: Roxy (Leilani Sarelle), Tom Cruise, Tony Scott, or Robert Duvall

No consensus: Roxy (Leilani Sarelle), Tom Cruise, Tony Scott, or Robert Duvall

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1:56:23

Producer review

Positive

Positive

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  • The producer praises the film’s American spectacle, music, and presentation after watching it for the first time. — Chris Ryan
  • The producer argues the movie should be longer because character setup and crash aftermath feel abruptly cut. — Chris Ryan
  • The final freeze-frame race between Harry and Cole is praised.
  • Cole's unpunished post-race collision with Russ is flagged as an extreme rules violation. — Chris Ryan
  • The absence of contemporary ESPN or SportsCenter coverage is identified as a missed opportunity. — Bill Simmons
  • The film is praised as an ideal movie to have playing in a bar. — Bill Simmons
  • The producer says younger viewers may have missed Cruise's early work and prefers the young Cruise persona. — Chris Ryan

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Top Gun

The Rewatchables · aired July 23, 2019

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