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The Fugitive

130 minutes

The Rewatchables episode

aired February 6, 2024

Roger Ebert's review

Roger Ebert’s review is discussed: 4 stars

In the discussion (2)
  • The hosts report Ebert awarded four stars
  • They discuss his praise of the film as accomplished entertainment

Most Rewatchable Scene

Dam chase versus the opening 24 minutes

In the discussion (13)
  • Opening interrogation
  • Bus fight and bus/train crash
  • Marshals taking over the investigation
  • Dam pursuit and jump
  • Copeland’s capture
  • St. Patrick’s Day chase
  • Kimble calling Gerard from Sykes’s apartment
  • Subway fight
  • Cardiology-conference confrontation
  • Final Kimble/Gerard exchange
  • Mallory favors the dam chase
  • Chris favors the opening 24 minutes and 20 seconds
  • Bill favors the opening crash material; the definition of a single scene is debated

What’s Aged the Best?

Chicago, Ford, Jones and the ensemble

In the discussion (12)
  • Chicago as a filming location
  • Seven-month shoot-to-release turnaround
  • Helen’s affection for Richard
  • Corporate-pharmaceutical villainy
  • Tommy Lee Jones’s improvised lines
  • Supporting cast, including Joe Pantoliano, Jane Lynch and Julianne Moore
  • Bearded versus clean-shaven Harrison Ford is debated
  • Nichols’s early villain cues
  • James Newton Howard’s score
  • Keeping Cosmo alive
  • Sela Ward
  • Kimble’s acts of kindness

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Charles Nichols; Sykes and the defense attorney also considered

In the discussion (6)
  • Nichols’s failure to neutralize Kimble
  • Nichols’s denial of knowing a colleague
  • Pathology approvals dated after Lentz’s death
  • The implausible no-side-effects claim
  • Sykes killing the wrong person and failing again
  • The defense attorney is nominated; his shortcomings are deferred

What’s Aged the Worst?

Defense failures, disguise logic and sequels

In the discussion (11)
  • Kimble’s legal defense
  • Forensic/DNA handling is criticized as dated
  • Failure to show Kimble testifying
  • Slow parallel prosthetics investigations
  • Oversized opening credits
  • Joe Pantoliano’s wig
  • Pre-CGI concealment of the actor’s arm
  • U.S. Marshals and later adaptations
  • Removal of Julianne Moore’s romantic subplot is debated and defended
  • People failing to recognize Ford’s distinctive face
  • The final Nichols/Kimble fight

Casting What-Ifs

Nolte, Baldwin, Hackman, Voight and Richard Jordan

In the discussion (5)
  • Walter Hill’s proposed Nick Nolte version
  • Alec Baldwin described as an early choice
  • Gene Hackman and Jon Voight considered for Gerard
  • Richard Jordan’s illness and replacement
  • Reshooting the party scene and Ford’s beard differences

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Harrison Ford’s interrogation performance — disputed

In the discussion (4)
  • Chris nominates Ford in the interrogation
  • Bill supports the choice
  • Mallory objects
  • The group clarifies that overacting is an admired quality on this podcast

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Ron Dean; honorable mentions for the ensemble

In the discussion (3)
  • Ron Dean is selected
  • Daniel Roebuck is an honorable mention
  • Joseph Kosala is identified as the other interrogating officer

Recasting Couch

Ewan McGregor, Jake Gyllenhaal and others

In the discussion (7)
  • Ewan McGregor in a London version
  • Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Reynolds proposed, with objections
  • Scarlett Johansson proposed
  • Timothée Chalamet as a young prodigy is joked about
  • Jake Gyllenhaal receives support
  • Chris Rock as a 1993 marshal sidekick
  • Pre-Taken Liam Neeson as Nichols

Half-Assed Internet Research

Ford’s injury, the real train crash and Chicago filming

In the discussion (6)
  • Ford’s injured knee and incorporated limp
  • Six screenwriters and 25 drafts reported
  • A real train crash with a single practical attempt
  • North Carolina railroad location
  • Chicago locations and the actual 1993 parade
  • Cold conditions during parade filming

Apex Mountain

Tommy Lee Jones and Andrew Davis: yes

In the discussion (12)
  • Harrison Ford: no
  • Ford playing Desmondo: yes as a joke
  • Ford’s doctor roles compared with Frantic
  • Tommy Lee Jones: yes
  • Joe Pantoliano: disagreement; The Sopranos favored instead
  • Pantoliano’s bad wigs: no
  • One-armed killers: yes
  • Andrew Davis: yes
  • Dutch men named Chuck: raised without a clear verdict
  • Chicago movies: disputed, with Ferris Bueller, Blues Brothers, Thief and The Dark Knight mentioned
  • Fugitives: O.J. Simpson offered instead
  • Characters named Cosmo: a strong year

Producer review

Craig Horlbeck calls it the number-one dad movie

In the discussion (2)
  • Craig says he loves the movie and calls it the number-one dad movie Craig Horlbeck
  • He imagines appreciating it even more as a father Craig Horlbeck

Picking Nits

Disguise, defense attorney and conspiracy logic

In the discussion (18)
  • Craig questions Sykes’s security role and corporate fishing trips
  • Chris questions Kimble’s minimal disguise
  • Stolen clothes fitting Kimble is debated
  • Mallory questions the fundraiser’s swimsuit show
  • Kimble fails to request counsel promptly
  • Craig questions water falling on the gun
  • Nichols’s conference patter is missing
  • Mallory challenges the defense’s handling of Helen’s call and circumstantial evidence
  • Shaving a large beard with a disposable razor
  • Craig questions Kimble’s janitor performance
  • Gerard’s shooting choices in the courthouse
  • Nichols’s incriminating photos
  • A rollerblading nurse
  • Instant train-audio identification
  • Mallory corrects the earlier podcast’s too-handsome Jon Hamm objection
  • Craig asks why Kimble does not take the evidence straight to Gerard
  • Kimble helping patients is defended
  • Cosmo’s implausibly minor head wound

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Untouchable versus Nichols or prison-doctor series

In the discussion (3)
  • Craig favors leaving the movie alone
  • A Breaking Bad-style Nichols origin series
  • A prison-doctor alternate path for Kimble

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Kill Sykes; rethink the one-arm story; defend the marriage

In the discussion (5)
  • The category is initially almost skipped but is then completed
  • Mallory argues Nichols should have Sykes killed
  • Chris argues Kimble’s one-armed-man account sounds incriminating
  • Craig has no prepared take
  • Bill proposes an attraction-based defense argument

Is This Movie Better With…?

Byron Mayo, Wayne Jenkins and Harling Mays

In the discussion (3)
  • Byron Mayo inserted into the hospital encounter
  • Wayne Jenkins as a marshal
  • Harling Mays treating Kimble after the dam

Just One Oscar

Skipped: Tommy Lee Jones already won

In the discussion (1)
  • The category is passed over because Jones already received an Oscar for the film

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Escape plan, Kimble’s fame, the cat and alternate futures

In the discussion (12)
  • Effectiveness of the fake seizure escape
  • Craig asks how famous Kimble would become
  • How much cash Nichols gives Kimble
  • Mallory asks what happened to the Kimble family cat
  • Gerard as an NFL coach
  • Craig asks why the river cannot be dyed blue
  • A shared Chicago movie universe
  • Whether faster emergency dispatch could have saved Helen
  • The logic of the incriminating call
  • Kimble and the woman who offers him a ride
  • A twist making Kimble guilty after all
  • How quickly Sykes would be caught through social media

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Celebrity, medicine or private investigation

In the discussion (6)
  • Kimble becomes a celebrity bachelor
  • Kimble reconnects with Dr. Eastman
  • Loss of faith leads Kimble to private investigation
  • Courtside recognition
  • A new home with the surviving cat
  • Devlin McGregor’s liability and the drug’s future are debated

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Jacket, tissue slide, cash, prosthetic arm and clothing

In the discussion (7)
  • Green jacket
  • Liver tissue sample / pathology slide
  • Nichols’s cash
  • Prosthetic arm
  • Cook County ID
  • Nichols’s tennis pullover and Fila tracksuit
  • Newman’s ponytail is jokingly declined

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

Get a capable lawyer; kindness while on the run

In the discussion (3)
  • Get a lawyer immediately and avoid Walter
  • Hiding in plain sight
  • Keep helping others even while on the run

Who Won the Movie?

Tommy Lee Jones / Harrison Ford

In the discussion (4)
  • Bill and Chris choose Tommy Lee Jones
  • Craig and Mallory choose Harrison Ford
  • The hosts explicitly call it a stalemate
  • Audience shouts are mixed and are not a measurable fan vote
Podcast choices
Bill Simmons
Tommy Lee Jones
Chris Ryan
Tommy Lee Jones
Craig Horlbeck
Harrison Ford
Mallory Rubin
Harrison Ford

More from the conversation

Live in Chicago, part of the Cold Weather Tour, revisiting an earlier Fugitive episode.
The redirect-twist discussion recalls the earlier episode; it is retained as a discussion topic rather than invented as a new named category.
Craig is introduced on stage explicitly as the producer before contributing to Picking Nits.