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“Don’t underestimate the cook”

Bill Simmons: A military cook may have a formidable background and should not be dismissed.

The film

Under Siege (1992)

Directed by Andrew Davis · Action

103 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Steven Seagal Chief Petty Officer Casey Ryback
Tommy Lee Jones William Strannix
Gary Busey Commander Peter Krill
Erika Eleniak Jordan Tate
Colm Meaney Ernest Daumer
Patrick O'Neal Captain J.T. Adams
Michael Welden Lieutenant Ballard
Andy Romano Admiral Bates
Dale Dye Captain Nick Garza
Nick Mancuso Tom Breaker

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

29:47

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (2)
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  • Ebert called the formula obvious but said the movie started working for him. — Bill Simmons
  • Siskel called it one of the best moviegoing times of the year. — Bill Simmons
33:02

Most Rewatchable Scene

The missile-launch hug; final kiss; Ryback and Tommy Lee Jones action passages

The missile-launch hug; final kiss; Ryback and Tommy Lee Jones action passages

In the discussion (16)
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  • Ryback moving through the ship while the crew hangs on his every word was an opening candidate. — Bill Simmons
  • The galley confrontation and Seagal’s improvised Cajun affect were nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Busey spitting into the bouillabaisse was nominated as a ruthlessly effective villain beat. — Bill Simmons
  • The hijackers’ first shootout, with Busey in drag and Strannix killing the ranking officer, was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Ryback escaping through the ceiling and immediately dispatching guards was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Ryback covering the captain’s body and attempting a quiet acting beat was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Strannix’s “welcome to the revolution” speech and the war-room reaction were nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The microwave bomb and its invented five-second countdown were nominated. — Kyle Brandt
  • The reveal of Ryback’s elite SEAL history was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Ryback organizing an instant counterattack with the makeshift crew was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • Ryback building a bomb from a grenade, condom, wire, oil, recorder, and knapsack was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The missile strike and awkward full-body celebratory hug were nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The final Ryback–Strannix knife fight and their mutual-recognition exchange were nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The joking deck finale, especially the infirmary and breakfast lines, was nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The final forced-looking kiss was dissected as bizarrely rewatchable. — Kyle Brandt
  • One final choice was the missile-launch hug; another was the last-five-seconds kiss. — Bill Simmons
59:27

What’s Aged the Best?

Entrances, Seagal’s accidental comedy and hand technique, the supporting character design, war-room celebrations, rut...

Entrances, Seagal’s accidental comedy and hand technique, the supporting character design, war-room celebrations, ruthless villains, and the Navy look

In the discussion (15)
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  • Ryback received a strong character entrance. — Bill Simmons
  • Strannix received a strong helicopter entrance. — Kyle Brandt
  • Jordan’s arrival established her failed-actress backstory efficiently. — Bill Simmons
  • Seagal’s non-jokes remain funny. — Bill Simmons
  • Seagal’s waving-hand fight technique remains visually distinctive. — Bill Simmons
  • The cheering war-room convention still works. — Bill Simmons
  • The villains’ decision to drown the trapped crew made them genuinely cruel. — Bill Simmons
  • The USS Missouri, Pearl Harbor, and Desert Storm details gave the action plot military-history texture. — Bill Simmons
  • “Wake up the president” was praised as enduring action-movie dialogue. — Bill Simmons
  • Busey’s “psychological evaluation” exchange was praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Bernie Casey’s presence and verbal exchanges with Strannix were praised. — Bill Simmons
  • Ryback’s improvised blowtorch outfit and DIY problem-solving were praised. — Bill Simmons
  • The hijackers’ food, booze, music, and visible enjoyment distinguished them from dour action villains. — Kyle Brandt
  • The Navy dress whites were praised as unusually flattering costuming. — Kyle Brandt
  • Wikipedia’s dry description of Under Siege II as “not as well received” amused the panel. — Bill Simmons
1:07:31

The Slow Ride / Kid Cudi – Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop

Jimi Hendrix’s “Voodoo Child (Slight Return)”

Jimi Hendrix’s “Voodoo Child (Slight Return)”

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  • The song’s unexpected use as the hijackers begin the revolution was praised. — Bill Simmons
1:08:50

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

The Ryback menu

The Ryback menu

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  • The cake was explicitly rejected because it was not real cake. — Bill Simmons
  • The menu of Ryback-named dishes was preferred over the loogie. — Bill Simmons
1:09:28

The Den of Thieves Benihana Award for Scene-Stealing Location

The ocean

The ocean

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1:11:00

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The emotional final salute

The emotional final salute

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  • The closing salute was selected, with Jordan’s Popeye-like outfit questioned. — Bill Simmons
1:11:44

The Vincent Chase Award: Are We Sure This Character Is Actually Good at Their Job?

Lieutenant Krill, for failing to neutralize Ryback

Lieutenant Krill, for failing to neutralize Ryback

In the discussion (2)
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  • Krill should have arranged to kill or secure Ryback before the takeover. — Bill Simmons
  • The movie never demonstrates whether Ryback can cook. — Bill Simmons
1:12:51

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Split: Jordan’s rapid competence; Seagal disappearing into the refrigerator

Split: Jordan’s rapid competence; Seagal disappearing into the refrigerator

In the discussion (2)
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  • Jordan’s transition from sedated cake performer to effective counter-coup participant strains plausibility. — Kyle Brandt
  • Seagal’s long absence from the action was argued as the larger rewatchability weakness. — Kyle Brandt
1:14:13

The Danny McBride Award for Playing Yourself

George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush (playfully)

George H. W. Bush and Barbara Bush (playfully)

In the discussion (1)
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1:14:48

What’s Aged the Worst?

Seagal’s conduct and final kiss, gratuitous nudity, Casey Ryback’s name, a visibly living dead captain, indoor smokin...

Seagal’s conduct and final kiss, gratuitous nudity, Casey Ryback’s name, a visibly living dead captain, indoor smoking, body doubles, and Busey’s later public image

In the discussion (7)
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  • Seagal’s real-world conduct and the forced-feeling final kiss have aged poorly. — Bill Simmons
  • The era’s gratuitous action-movie nudity has aged poorly. — Bill Simmons
  • Casey Ryback sounds more like a sideline reporter than a Navy SEAL chef. — Bill Simmons
  • The captain visibly breathing and blinking as a corpse was criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • High-ranking officials smoking indoors during crisis meetings looked dated. — Bill Simmons
  • The obvious Tommy Lee Jones body double in the final fight was cited. — Kyle Brandt
  • Busey’s later public image was contrasted with his charismatic Lethal Weapon and Point Break era. — Kyle Brandt
1:17:15

Is There a Better Title for This Movie?

Under Siege

Under Siege

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1:18:22

The Neil McCauley “A Book about Metals” Award for Best Line from the Movie

“I do have 50 gallons of bouillabaisse that I could prepare for tomorrow”

“I do have 50 gallons of bouillabaisse that I could prepare for tomorrow”

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  • The quantity and use of gallons made the line memorably absurd. — Bill Simmons
1:18:53

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

Two takes were preserved: Seagal would improve The Fugitive as Richard Kimble, and Tommy Lee Jones gives essentially ...

Two takes were preserved: Seagal would improve The Fugitive as Richard Kimble, and Tommy Lee Jones gives essentially the same performance in both movies.

In the discussion (2)
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1:21:21

Casting What-Ifs

No casting what-ifs; Seagal almost did not star

No casting what-ifs; Seagal almost did not star

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  • No substantive casting alternative was located.
1:21:43

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

Gary Busey

Gary Busey

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  • Busey’s confrontation and betrayal lines were offered as the peak examples.
1:21:59

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

Dwayne Davis, remembered as Alvin Mack from The Program

Dwayne Davis, remembered as Alvin Mack from The Program

In the discussion (7)
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1:24:02

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The war-room officer describing Honolulu reaching 10,000 degrees

The war-room officer describing Honolulu reaching 10,000 degrees

In the discussion (1)
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  • A single apocalyptic line reading supplied the winning case. — Bill Simmons
1:25:23

Recasting Couch

Samuel L. Jackson replacing Gary Busey

Samuel L. Jackson replacing Gary Busey

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1:26:35

Half-Assed Internet Research

Erika Eleniak’s E.T. appearance, Alabama shooting locations, budget-saving rewrites, Seagal’s Pearl Harbor idea, and ...

Erika Eleniak’s E.T. appearance, Alabama shooting locations, budget-saving rewrites, Seagal’s Pearl Harbor idea, and the film persuading Harrison Ford to make The Fugitive

In the discussion (7)
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  • Eleniak’s first feature role was the girl Elliott kissed in E.T. — Bill Simmons
  • USS Alabama stood in for USS Missouri. — Bill Simmons
  • Mobile-area locations and framing made the limited water appear to be open ocean. — Bill Simmons
  • The script was reduced from an estimated $100 million version to a roughly $30 million production. — Bill Simmons
  • Seagal proposed incorporating the Pearl Harbor memorial and gathered ships. — Bill Simmons
  • Harrison Ford reportedly joined The Fugitive after seeing an Under Siege rough cut. — Bill Simmons
  • The production used a blackout barge and visual blocking to conceal the Alabama’s surroundings. — Bill Simmons
1:28:37

Apex Mountain

Seagal, Erika Eleniak, and the June 1989 Playboy issue: yes

Seagal, Erika Eleniak, and the June 1989 Playboy issue: yes

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  • Seagal’s commercial and industry standing clearly declined after this film. — Bill Simmons
  • Busey’s apex was placed around Point Break, Under Siege, and The Firm, with The Buddy Holly Story as an earlier prestige high. — Kyle Brandt
  • Erika Eleniak was treated as an apex case. — Bill Simmons
  • The June 1989 Playboy issue was treated as an apex case because Under Siege and Home Alone preserved its fame. — Bill Simmons
  • “Voodoo Child” in Under Siege lost its apex case to its later NWO use. — Kyle Brandt
  • Casey Ryback was nominated as the apex movie cook who could also fight. — Kyle Brandt
  • Goodfellas’ prison cooking and Clemenza’s meatballs were competing movie-cook cases. — Kyle Brandt
  • Chef and Burnt were rejected because their cooks could not fight. — Bill Simmons
1:32:50

Picking Nits

The takeover plan, surprise-party cover, one-woman entertainment plan, haircuts, accents, cake logic, pills, injury c...

The takeover plan, surprise-party cover, one-woman entertainment plan, haircuts, accents, cake logic, pills, injury continuity, ovens, and payment

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  • The ease with which armed terrorists boarded a nuclear battleship was the central nit. — Bill Simmons
  • A surprise party was judged too flimsy a cover for activity on a nuclear battleship. — Bill Simmons
  • Flying in only one entertainer for the party seemed implausible. — Bill Simmons
  • Several sailors lacked expected military haircuts. — Bill Simmons
  • Colm Meaney’s American accent disappears in later scenes. — Bill Simmons
  • Jordan apparently slept inside the cake without hearing the gunfire. — Kyle Brandt
  • It was unclear whether Busey drugged Jordan or she simply took too many seasickness pills.
  • Ryback’s water injury disappears in the next scene. — Bill Simmons
  • The galley uses a gas-style oven even though the Navy reportedly uses electric appliances around shipboard weapons. — Bill Simmons
  • Jordan’s exact job in the attack plan remained unclear. — Kyle Brandt
  • The amount Jordan was promised for the cake appearance was debated. — Bill Simmons
  • Whether Jordan was ever paid remained unanswered. — Bill Simmons
1:37:00

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

No prestige-series remake

No prestige-series remake

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  • The hosts did not want to see the premise expanded into prestige television. — Bill Simmons
1:37:12

Is This Movie Better With…?

Philip Baker Hall as the captain

Philip Baker Hall as the captain

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1:37:49

Just One Oscar

Tommy Lee Jones

Tommy Lee Jones

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1:37:49

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Could Ryback or Seagal cook? Did Seagal need a ponytail? How did his action-hero physique work?

Could Ryback or Seagal cook? Did Seagal need a ponytail? How did his action-hero physique work?

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1:39:29

Best Double Feature

The Fugitive
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1:40:08

The Andy and Red – Zihuatanejo Award for What Happens the Next Day?

Two dark speculative futures for Casey and Jordan were offered; neither was treated as fact.

Two dark speculative futures for Casey and Jordan were offered; neither was treated as fact.

The panel is imagining how this might look in the future.

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  • One speculation had the pair go to Hawaii before the relationship turned abusive. — Bill Simmons
  • Another had Jordan return to Los Angeles, struggle in acting, and later circle back to Casey. — Bill Simmons
1:41:58

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The Ryback menu; Tommy Lee Jones’s aviators and leather jacket

The Ryback menu; Tommy Lee Jones’s aviators and leather jacket

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  • The Ryback menu was desired as wall art. — Kyle Brandt
  • The competing choice was Strannix’s aviators and jacket. — Bill Simmons
1:43:45

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

“Don’t underestimate the cook”

“Don’t underestimate the cook”

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  • A military cook may have a formidable background and should not be dismissed. — Bill Simmons
1:44:30

Who Won the Movie?

Tommy Lee Jones won for carrying the film into The Fugitive and an enduring career.

Tommy Lee Jones won for carrying the film into The Fugitive and an enduring career.

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More from the conversation

The hosts framed Under Siege as Seagal’s best, most legitimate film and the peak of his 1990–92 action run, while acknowledging his later reputation and alleged conduct.
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The discussion treated the film as a Tommy Lee Jones vehicle and as an origin point for Andrew Davis’s The Fugitive.
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Erika Eleniak’s Playboy and Baywatch context led to a broader discussion of 1980s/90s media and gratuitous nudity.
Approx. transcript time · 00:24:17Read transcript
Strannix’s plot, motives, and villain ranking were unpacked, with Tommy Lee Jones placed near the top of the show’s Die Hard-villain scale.
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Craig’s first-view response prompted discussion of lost oddball action stars and how streaming weakened passive cable rewatchability.
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