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Zodiac

Apex Mountain

David Fincher (creative apex disputed); Mark Ruffalo as a movie detective; John Carroll Lynch; Zodiac within Fincher’s filmography

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  • The category is introduced as “Cruise or Hanks.”
  • One audible choice favors Hanks.
  • Another audible choice favors Cruise, followed by agreement that Cruise is fun in the movie.
  • Cruise and Hanks are each tested as Graysmith and Toschi, with concern that either recasting loses Ruffalo. — Bill Simmons
  • The panel explicitly says it does not really have to choose.
Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Split: Scorsese; Spielberg (Bill favors Scorsese)

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  • The panel runs Scorsese or Spielberg as a named category. — Bill Simmons
  • A Spielberg version is argued for through procedural clarity. — Bill Simmons
  • A Scorsese version is argued for through obsession and moral decay. — Sean Fennessey
  • No unanimous choice is reached. — Bill Simmons
Zodiac The Rewatchables
Zodiac

Picking Nits

Meetings, the roadside sequence, a clue, detective conduct, food history, and Herb Caen produce distinct nitpicks.

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  • The number and arrangement of cartoonist meetings are questioned. — Bill Simmons
  • Ione Skye pulling over for the stranger is questioned.
  • The Narlow clue is questioned.
  • Detectives interacting so freely with a prime suspect is questioned. — Sean Fennessey
  • Penne alla vodka is flagged as a possible historical error. — Sean Fennessey
  • The handling of Herb Caen is questioned.
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Zodiac

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Who the Zodiac was, why police did not begin with people known to victims, what non-work obsession could consume a life, whether Graysmith saw money in the project, and how a 1970s handwriting expert established authority

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  • Who was the Zodiac killer? — Bill Simmons
  • Why do police in serial-killer stories fail to begin with people the victims knew? — Bill Simmons
  • What non-work subject could someone pursue so obsessively that they would throw their life away?
  • Did Graysmith eventually see that his obsession could make money? — Bill Simmons
  • What qualified a 1970s handwriting expert, and what made one better than another?
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Zodiac

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

“It’s not finished until you type it up”; keep investigating even at the cost of family and sanity if Fincher may adapt it (sarcastic)

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  • “It’s not finished until you type it up” is offered as a life lesson and compared with the idea that movies are abandoned rather than finished. — Bill Simmons
  • A sarcastic second lesson says never stop a murder investigation, even if it costs family and sanity, because it might lead to a David Fincher movie. — Bill Simmons
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