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The Notebook

Picking Nits

The home-restoration and engagement timeline; the health of young Noah and Allie's relationship; building and stocking a house for someone unseen in seven years; Allie going off the grid on Lon; the hand-cut arrows and Xerox paper; Lon's convoluted proposal; the $50,000 asking price for the plantation; the abrupt ending; how Noah pays the bills

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  • Invited to go first, the number one nit, written in caps, is a request to explain the timeline of the home restoration and how long Ali and Lon were engaged. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The timeline is laid out: they meet June 6, 1940, Allie at 17 starts Sarah Lawrence that fall and graduates in spring 1944, and she returns to Noah in 1947, since she says she waited seven years, so she has been with Lon about three years.
  • Asked what questions remain, meeting at the end of the war in 1944 or 1945 makes sense, and the concern is that we are shown the engagement and then Noah starting work on the house. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Perhaps she took a year off to nurse; in the 40s there were about six weeks between engagement and marriage and this woman would have married faster, yet the movie shows the entire restoration, Sam Shepard dying in between, Noah pulling off the facade floorboard by floorboard alone, and his newspaper feature alongside her wedding announcement; even allowing six months for a society wedding, one person cannot renovate a house like that, so the timeline makes no sense.
  • Asked for a major nit, there are concerns about early Noah and Allie's relationship and its health. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • The relationship runs on adrenaline and hating Allie's mom; they get into physical fights, hitting each other rather than bickering, which may be meant to communicate passion, though rewatching Big Little Lies prompts a rethink of the link between physical aggression and passion; Noah also gets a personality transplant, barely talking in the second half before transforming back into James Garner.
  • Also a nitpick: is it healthy to build an entire house for someone you have not spoken to in seven years and stock it with sketch notebooks, pencils and canvases? Romantic in the movie, weird and stalkery in real life; a beautiful house is one host's love language but the third sketch notebook is intense, a flip-side Mrs. Havisham who was called a madwoman, a double standard, and a Lloyd Dobler problem of movie romance ignoring boundaries; Gosling gets credit for channeling the break with reality it would take.
  • Allie going off the grid for two or three days is really rude to lovely Lon and not good behavior, even if you are uncontactable on Seabrook Island in 1947 and Noah's remote house probably has no phone; why Noah never got another friend after Kevin Connolly died is answered with 'once you have E' there are no replacements.
  • Two smaller nits: Noah could not have had time to cut so many differently shaped arrows for the painting scene, a two-hour project at most, and the paper looked like straight-up Xerox paper, not 1947-approved; Marsden's proposal is extremely convoluted, the bit about her parents does not land, 'I've asked your parents already' is always hated, and it needed a rewrite.
  • Asked for other nits, Noah is only asking $50,000 for the plantation, which in the 1940s is like $500,000 and not enough money; he needs a better understanding of the real estate market and his land. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • Coastal property goes for far more; classic Noah not consulting an expert.
  • The movie ends abruptly, panning up from the bed to credits; one host would end on Allie returning to the house and the all-time McAdams shrug, up there with the Jordan shrug, and stops watching there because the extra fifteen minutes of old people are unnecessary, while another starts weeping then because it shows love is real and the hospital plot cannot be left unresolved.
  • Netflix quietly used an alternate ending in which the old couple simply go to bed and no nurse finds them dead, which the hosts agree is better; the fifteen-minute epilogue is unneeded even by someone who usually loves an epilogue.
  • One host, perhaps cold at heart, has never been moved to tears by this movie despite loving sad things, and thinks the old people ruin it, while the weeping host stands with Craig in the corner valuing love that lasts a lifetime; the abrupt-ending complaint is really a wish for one more young Noah and Allie moment, since her return is no guarantee it works out, although the old-people premise is that it does and their kids come; some are interested in the old-people story and some are not.
  • Earlier, during the research, whether Noah's furniture is how he pays the bills was flagged as unknown and parked for picking nits.
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  • It has got to be Joan Allen, though she was also placed under what aged worst and argued as a heat check.
  • Asked to make the case, a Dion Waiters heat check is not necessarily a good thing, but it is 'wow, she's really going for it'. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • Given the floor for critical things about Joan Allen: in the wedding-dress scene with fifteen anonymous women with terrible Southern accents, she leans into the scheming Southern mom, 'society event of the year', with her thickest accent and a shoulder shimmy, and it does not work; she brings home the emotional stuff at the end, but the shallow Southern mom of the first half is a bit much. — Amanda Dobbins
  • At the dance with the offensively stereotypical, largely black brass band she must have a dance double, since she does full leg kicks.
  • Asked whether the dance scene seemed odd, all of it works for this viewer, who is on board with evil Joan Allen. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • The band leader is Oba Babatunde (as transcribed), the ousted principal in season three of Dawson's Creek, filmed around the same time, another Carolina connection and a WB that-guy who does not count for normal people.
  • Kevin Connolly is also totally doing too much, but Joan Allen is the third or fourth biggest lead and it is hard to make a case for anyone else; she is a wonderful actress, excellent recently on Broadway in The Waverly Gallery, but not channeling that energy here.
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  • Nobody remembers what the Joey Pants Award is until Craig reminds them it is for the that-guy in the movie; it has to go to Kevin Connolly, though he was not a that-guy at the time, only a 2019 that-guy.
  • In some ways the that-guy is Gina Rollins (as transcribed), around so long yet vaguely familiar rather than well known to this generation; one host's notes just called Connolly 'E' throughout, and he will always be E, so it is surprising he is not married to Emmanuel Shrieky (as transcribed) in real life; he once dated Nikki Hilton.
  • Paul Johansson is another candidate: so random a cameo that he must have had lines cut, and he probably filmed it conveniently just before One Tree Hill started shooting in Carolina.
The Notebook

Casting What-Ifs

Jessica Biel, Britney Spears, Reese Witherspoon and Ashley Judd were in the mix for Allie; Justin Timberlake was rumored as Noah; Steven Spielberg wanted to direct with Tom Cruise

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  • Quite a few actresses wished they had gotten Allie; Jessica Biel is the most vocal, having called it in an interview the film that got away, though one host no longer acknowledges Jessica Biel.
  • Britney Spears would have been terrible, and with Justin Timberlake rumored as Noah a Justin-and-Britney Notebook was probably considered; she is a really bad actress who has never had chemistry with anyone, said with respect; Reese Witherspoon may not be a true rumor, and Ashley Judd would have been too old.
  • Timberlake is not a good actor but fun in The Social Network; he later worked with Nick Cassavetes in Alpha Dog with Emile Hirsch, a time capsule of 2006 that nobody saw.
  • Steven Spielberg apparently wanted to direct this with Tom Cruise starring, which prompts a wish to ask Spielberg what attracted him, with the war part the guess, and a joke that Kevin Connolly would have fared better; the timing is first placed right after Jerry Maguire, then corrected to around 2002, after Eyes Wide Shut and the Nicole divorce, coming off Minority Report and Vanilla Sky.
  • Cruise's Noah would be a different take that would not make the movie work, though possibly accurate to the script, and not the romantic movie we know; the what-ifs are fun because where they landed is so perfect, Gosling was famously cast first, and a DVD extra shows McAdams coming in for her read looking even younger.
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  • The way race is portrayed is horrific; the wartime scenes could have been cut, since showing Kevin Connolly dying in battle was unnecessary; the portrayal of Sarah Lawrence College is a weird, unnecessary transition.
  • The portrayal of dementia is on the list: there is something to periods of lucidity in Alzheimer's, as in the medical-drama arc where Meredith's mother briefly becomes lucid, but the movie does not accurately represent how long it lasts or whether it can be induced.
  • Willing yourselves into death together is another weird one, with shades of Titanic's couple going down together in bed; other light Titanic influences are Jack telling Rose she will die an old lady warm in her bed, and 'you jump, I jump' echoing 'if you're a bird, I'm a bird'; all the medical stuff fails against the winds of time.
  • Joan Allen's mother portrayal is held for another category, but one host finds it accurate to the time, since in the 40s you did not get to marry who you wanted.
  • Asked for more things that aged badly, Allie's dad is nominated. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • Allie's dad: the mustache, extremely Southern, basically Colonel Sanders, a throwaway, unrealized character who is supposed to be intimidating and unnecessarily harsh yet isn't; the all-white party dinner is very Titanic, and he is inferior to the other dad, the great Sam Shepard.
  • Addressed by name for anything else, the nomination is Kevin Connolly in this movie. — Amanda Dobbins
  • Kevin Connolly's lowest moment is his death, dead and still bad at acting; Entourage was a thing and he may have been the most famous person in the cast at the time, but the choice has aged poorly as Entourage and his role in it downgraded; Martha Shaw is also raised as rough.
  • Agreeing that Martha Shaw is rough, the feeling is simply of being really bad for her. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • Martha Shaw is nevertheless a realistic portrayal of an emotionally unavailable man; she takes it too well, inviting Allie to dinner, and there is no reason for Allie to join except to punish herself; Martha mostly serves as a vehicle for Noah to show what a good guy he is.
  • Asked why Martha Shaw is on the list, the answer is that Noah basically treats her like garbage. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • The supposedly heartwarming meeting of new girlfriend and ex comes off weird and does not show Noah is a good guy; one host had rewritten Martha in her head as a single mother to make her more tragic, when she is just a widow.
  • The final pick is the whole Southern race aspect of the movie. — Amanda Dobbins
  • The final pick is Kevin Connolly. — Andrew Gruttadaro
  • Another voice has Kevin Connolly as runner-up and goes with race as well, plus the treatment of dementia and Alzheimer's, also in the running.
  • Earlier, while on what aged best, Charleston's plantation imagery and the all-black service roles, including at the retirement home, were already filed under what aged worst.
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