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- Episodes featuring their films
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Rewatchables episodes featuring Vince Vaughn’s films
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
2004 film
Craig Horlbeck · Danny Heifetz · Danny Kelly
Aired August 6, 2024
Mentioned in discussions
What’s Aged the Best?
Goldsmith score; rejection montages; Astin’s athleticism; blunt parental realism; supporting cast; Devine speech; sports-movie character types
In the discussion (10)
- The montage of Rudy repeatedly failing to make the dress list is praised as an effective disappointed-hope sequence with strong music. — Bill Simmons
- The score, loose true-story disclaimer, rejection-letter montage and fathers asking children’s friends whether they have their own home are affirmative selections. — Bill Simmons
- Astin’s athletic running and tackling look convincing, with Toy Soldiers and Seagal’s running providing comparisons. — Kyle Brandt
- Adults discouraging unrealistic childhood dreams is praised as a refreshing contrast with universal encouragement, including the bus-stop story about the failed cattle business. — Kyle Brandt
- Jamie’s disappointing blue-chip-recruit persona and sports villains who complain that the hero makes them look bad are enjoyable familiar types. — Bill Simmons
- Devine’s nobody-pushes-us-around speech has a lasting arena-jumbotron afterlife. — Bill Simmons
- Seeing early Vaughn after Swingers and Old School adds comic expectations to his exchanges with Rudy. — Bill Simmons
- Some Notre Dame fans’ vehement dislike of the movie is itself an amusing positive. — Bill Simmons
- Tryouts reportedly appears in at least twelve other film trailers, demonstrating the score’s power to sell unrelated movies. — Bill Simmons
- Ross’s Major League, Hoosiers and Rudy trifecta establishes his sports-movie supporting-player stature, with Trouble with the Curve, The Express and possibly The Last Boy Scout also cited. — Bill Simmons
In the discussion (3)
- Stiller is the initial choice, challenged by Thurber’s remarkable path from film school and commercial to dream-cast feature; Vaughn is rejected. — Craig Horlbeck
- Thurber’s subsequent career is acknowledged, but Stiller’s role in getting the film made, its success and iconic character win the argument. — Craig Horlbeck
- Stiller’s later lucrative family films are discussed as another level of success; two final responses settle on Stiller while crediting Thurber’s achievement. — Craig Horlbeck
Podcast choices
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In the discussion (2)
Cruise or Hanks?
Cruise as Goodman; Hanks as Peter
In the discussion (2)
- Cruise could play Goodman through his Tropic Thunder mode; if replacing protagonist Peter, Hanks is the firm choice. — Craig Horlbeck
- Vaughn is distinguished as protagonist from Stiller as the film’s comic star. — Craig Horlbeck
Apex Mountain
Ben Stiller’s2004 clout; Christine Taylor; dodgeball; Talk Like a Pirate Day; announcers for a fictional sport
In the discussion (8)
- Stiller’s2004 stretch is affirmed because his clout got a first-time director’s dodgeball film made; Mary and Tropic Thunder are alternatives but the group returns to2004. — Craig Horlbeck
- Vaughn is assigned to Wedding Crashers the following year, while Taylor is affirmed here. — Craig Horlbeck
- The sport of dodgeball is emphatically affirmed for being revitalized by the film. — Craig Horlbeck
- Stunt casting is proposed through Armstrong, Norris, Shatner and Hasselhoff, with amazement that these appearances fit a modest budget. — Craig Horlbeck
- Talk Like a Pirate Day is affirmed for2004; pirates generally are debated against Pirates of the Caribbean and actual historical piracy. — Craig Horlbeck
- Inflatable athletic cups are proposed and compared with Austin Powers’s different penis-enlarger prop. — Craig Horlbeck
- Movie announcers are proposed against Bob Uecker in Major League; Cotton and Pepper are affirmed for a fictional, non-major-league sport. — Craig Horlbeck
- Cash in suitcases is proposed through the deliberately unimpressive appearance of a hundred thousand dollars. — Craig Horlbeck
What’s Aged the Worst?
Armstrong; stereotypes; bisexuality gimmick; Vitamin Water; haircuts; Patches’s language; betting on one’s team
In the discussion (6)
- Armstrong’s motivational image is the clearest example of poor aging. — Craig Horlbeck
- Dated language, stereotype tournament teams and bisexuality used as a gimmick are criticized. — Craig Horlbeck
- Vitamin Water’s extensive placement feels dated; its reported catering arrangement leads to disagreement about whether the brand still exists and remains worth drinking. — Craig Horlbeck
- Long and Vaughn have poor haircuts, while Goodman’s feathered hair is exempted. — Craig Horlbeck
- Patches’s dialogue is broadly judged poorly aged. — Craig Horlbeck
- Peter betting on his own team now evokes sporting suspensions; the panel distinguishes betting against oneself and debates whether backing one’s own win should be allowed.
The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film
None broadly agreed; Owen if forced
In the discussion (2)
- Vaughn is briefly considered but rejected; the group largely sees no weak link. — Craig Horlbeck
- Owen is the reluctant forced choice because he does little and gets benched, though his failure to recognize the team’s pirate is defended as an excellent joke. — Craig Horlbeck
Half-Assed Internet Research
Dodgeball boom; physical injuries; Torn’s behavior; sports camera crew; uniforms; cast nightlife; Fran concept
In the discussion (8)
- Justin Long reportedly suffered temporary vision loss from repeated real dodgeball impacts; the filmmakers said hits required actual thrown balls. — Craig Horlbeck
- The film reportedly triggered a nationwide dodgeball-league boom. — Craig Horlbeck
- Training produced ankle injuries and possible concussions; Stiller hit Taylor in the face, and machines fired balls at actors. — Craig Horlbeck
- Torn reportedly needed coaxing, was mean to Long and repeatedly left set despite a handler; his distracted final encouragement is debated as either funny or insufficiently in character. — Craig Horlbeck
- The tournament was shot at Cabrillo High School with sports camera operators, making the elementary-school game feel genuinely exciting. — Craig Horlbeck
- Average Joe’s uniforms were modeled on Hoosiers. — Craig Horlbeck
- Audience extras reportedly included work-release or halfway-program participants; Vaughn bonded the cast through late strip-club outings and reportedly paid Williams to stay out. — Craig Horlbeck
- Fran was originally conceived as a Fembot-like robot. — Craig Horlbeck
In the discussion (3)
- Reported earlier casting included Vince Vaughn with Zooey Deschanel, Mark Wahlberg as Pat and Anne Hathaway as Tiffany; the panel doubts these alternatives could match the final pairing. — Chris Ryan
- Reported Tiffany candidates include Elizabeth Banks, Kirsten Dunst, Angelina Jolie, Blake Lively, Rooney Mara, Rachel McAdams, Andrea Riseborough, Olivia Wilde and Emma Thompson; some claims draw skepticism and the options illustrate the risk of conventional quirky-romance casting. — Chris Ryan
- Lawrence’s toughness and partly goth styling are essential to avoiding cuteness; Vaughn might make a functional but lesser film, while Rob McElhenney and Kat Dennings are joking alternatives. — Andy Greenwald
Apex Mountain
Jolie; Pitt, qualified; 21st-century celebrity culture; fighting spy couples, tentative; Brody; on-set romances for this century, disputed
In the discussion (8)
- Jolie is an affirmative choice. — Bill Simmons
- Pitt is an affirmative choice based on becoming perhaps the world’s most famous actor, while Moneyball and the intervening run remain alternatives. — Bill Simmons
- Twenty-first-century celebrity culture receives agreement.
- Fighting spy couples receives a tentative yes, but assassins or hit men more broadly do not. — Bill Simmons
- Vaughn is rejected and The Bourne Identity is preferred for Liman. — Bill Simmons
- Brody receives an emphatic yes because this film coincided with his O.C. fame, recalling hopes he could become the next Tom Hanks. — Bill Simmons
- Marriage-counseling movies receives a no without a clear alternative. — Bill Simmons
- On-set romances is disputed: Taylor and Burton are preferred overall, while Pitt and Jolie are defended at least for the twenty-first century. — Bill Simmons
Recasting Couch
Dave Chappelle for Vaughn; Owen Wilson and Bradley Cooper alternatives
In the discussion (3)
- For Vaughn’s role at the time, Owen Wilson and 2005 Bradley Cooper are considered, with Cooper bringing an angrier edge; Byron Mayo is jokingly floated.
- Dave Chappelle becomes the preferred replacement for Vaughn.
- Ghosted’s Chris Evans and Ana de Armas are offered as a modern comparison but dismissed as lacking chemistry; Anyone but You inspires more anticipation. Tom Holland and Zendaya are floated as the biggest current couple, followed by a joking on-set breakup scenario. — Amanda Dobbins
In the discussion (3)
- Vince Vaughn is the selection, with his shouting at his mother compared to Will Ferrell’s work during the same period, explicitly stopping short of an accusation of stealing.
- Vaughn’s performance feels improvised without enough purpose or memorable material, although his presence is still welcome. — Chris Ryan
- A shorter office cameo might have worked better than giving Vaughn the third-largest amount of screen time. — Chris Ryan
Films in the archive
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
2004
Domestic Disturbance
2001
Mr. and Mrs. Smith
2005
Old School
2003
Rudy
1993
Swingers
1996

