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Coming to America

1988 film

Bill Simmons · Van Lathan · Wesley Morris

Aired February 18, 2021

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Approx. transcript time · 01:16:09Read transcript
  • Madge Sinclair is considered, but she is known as the queen and had many Emmy nominations.
  • Runner-up is Paul Bates, the first person seen, who sings when the queen is introduced; IMDb lists True Romance.
  • The winner is Allison Dean as the sister Patrice, great in the movie and expected to have a long career.
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Coming to America

What’s Aged the Best?

Mortimer and Randolph crossover; barbershop Joe Louis bit; Darryl and Soul Glo; "The royal penis is clean"; McDowell's versus McDonald's; Louie Anderson's cameo; Eddie's Jewish comedian makeup; engagement-announcement trope; the women in the cast; the Waldorf Astoria; Queens and New York as themselves

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Approx. transcript time · 00:57:14Read transcript
  • Mortimer and Randolph crossing over is mentioned again, along with the barbershop bit about Joe Louis's age and Frank Sinatra saying he was 137.
  • A barbershop take starts with Kobe being better than Jordan and escalates; the lines are sneaky funny and well written.
  • As personal trauma, avoiding barbershops where the average age is 75 after bad shape-ups.
  • Darryl and Soul Glo helped end the Jheri curl, making it mainstream to mock; West Coast rap briefly kept curls and N.W.A was the last gasp.
  • The Soul Glo commercial is a tour de force that feels like real TV, one of the funniest, most devastating Black culture jokes.
  • "The royal penis is clean, your highness" always kills.
  • John Amos explaining the difference between McDowell's and McDonald's is enjoyed.
  • Louie Anderson's McDowell's monologue gained a second life through Kanye West's Gold Digger.
  • It was reportedly Landis's idea for Eddie to play the Jewish comedian, and visiting Paramount executives didn't recognize him in the makeup.
  • The 80s-90s trope of a father announcing his daughter's engagement to an annoying boyfriend without her knowing is a favorite gimmick.
  • Every Black woman in the movie has aged well, including Vanessa Bell Calloway, Garcelle Beauvais, Shari Headley and Madge Sinclair.
  • Jody Watley's sister, who went by Midori, plays one of the rose bearers.
  • The Waldorf Astoria became the benchmark for an amazing hotel; the Plaza plays that role through Home Alone.
  • Queens and New York look like themselves, without the snow plowed for the king's arrival.
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Coming to America

Most Rewatchable Scene

Black Awareness Week with Randy Watson; St. John's game bathroom recognition; plot-resolution party scene; barbershop scenes

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  • The opening with Akeem waking up is floated as a pick; it is rewatchable but too long, since he barely reaches America 40 minutes in.
  • First pick: the presentation of the future queen, lavish and well executed, with James Earl Jones's line about having sex with the bathers.
  • The Zamunda sequence uses the old Hollywood trick of a lavish set piece, with elephants wandering past windows and 400 costumed people, compared with Cabin in the Sky.
  • The first nightclub scene is cleverly edited, with a string of women and ending with Arsenio in drag.
  • Invited to make a veiled joke, the reply notes this is the fourth Eddie Murphy conversation and riffs "Eddie, you talking to us." — Wesley Morris
  • The nightclub scene is blocked as shot-reverse-shot, but for Arsenio's turn Eddie sits beside him, so Arsenio is essentially reacting to himself.
  • The nightclub premise of judging which woman is good enough may belong in What's Aged the Worst; some moments are "definitely 1988".
  • Black Awareness Week, called "probably going to be my winner", features Arsenio's reverend and Randy Watson with Sexual Chocolate to tepid applause; the makeup hides Eddie for about 40 seconds, in six great minutes.
  • The scene rings true to community events in Baton Rouge, at the Leo Butler Community Center, where a tired local celebrity always performs.
  • Another had a version at Fairmont Park; the name Black Awareness Week is the canned-peas version, and the crowd's reaction to Randy Watson is captured perfectly.
  • Randy Watson sings The Greatest Love of All rather than Super Freak, a song sung at every graduation; without Whitney Houston you hear how mediocre it is.
  • The St. John's game brings back the 80s Big East; the bathroom recognition is called one participant's favorite scene and another's second favorite.
  • The bathroom scene is moving: a Black man seeing a Black person who means something deep to him in a common space; truly touching rather than funny.
  • Akeem's first date with Lisa brings the cross-movie cameo of Mortimer and Randolph from Trading Places as homeless men, a huge theater surprise.
  • A dad expected the Dukes to take the money and come back; a movie of that was expected but never came.
  • The dad-versus-dad clash between John Amos and James Earl Jones, with "I'm going to put my foot in your royal ass", is really good.
  • The barbershop scenes are held for What's Aged the Best because they are short.
  • The scene where all the characters come together to straighten out the plot is fine but a little long. — Bill Simmons
  • That plot-resolution scene is called a favorite: a party sequence with deep depth of field and stakes, plus a living-room farce where misunderstandings get ironed out like a Three's Company ending, with Amos, Madge Sinclair and James Earl Jones on different sides.
  • The barbershop scenes are the pick: so short that they're so rewatchable, arguing over the same things people argue about in the barbershop. — Van Lathan
  • In reply, the barbershop scenes, earlier held for What's Aged the Best, are accepted as collectively the most rewatchable scene; a YouTube clip strings them all together like its own movie.
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