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Thief

123 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

James Caan Frank
Tuesday Weld Jessie
Willie Nelson David "Okla" Bertinneau
Tom Signorelli Attaglia
William Petersen Katz & Jammer Bartender
John Santucci Sergeant Urizzi
John Kapelos Mechanic
Michael Paul Chan Chinese Waiter

Thief | The Rewatchables

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In the discussion (29)
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  • First pick: Caan going to the plating company to demand his $185,000 within three hours; it is the first time Farina is seen, and the eight horrified 1981 office workers are a highlight.
  • A joke that Chris used to enter the office the same way, moving the chair to see what was on the desk.
  • Willie Nelson's big prison scene is complicated but fascinating, an intense staring contest with the faces a foot apart; Mann seems to have few friends but insanely intense connections with the ones he has.
  • The Nelson scene is not obviously working at first but pays off with "I don't want to die in here, Frank"; his line readings are sometimes odd, but his open, empathetic face makes it work.
  • Willie Nelson on Frank's postcard collage is briefly puzzling on a rewatch until you remember he is Frank's best friend.
  • Praski's (Prosky's) first scene: his first movie at 51, dressed like a grandfather in a golf shirt tucked into pressed slacks.
  • Mann auditioned dozens of New York actors for Leo; Bruckheimer advised that the right person had not walked in the room yet, and Prosky, a theater actor, was found, leading to a That Guy career.
  • Peak Prosky is this role: an avuncular, warm, familial sensibility with pure evil right under the surface. — Sean Fennessey
  • The Natural is raised as close but too evil; later roles such as Last Action Hero and Mrs. Doubtfire made him the favorite uncle.
  • Prosky originated Shelley Levene in Glengarry Glen Ross.
  • Caan lays out what he won't steal: just diamonds and cash, no coin collections.
  • The diner monologue is the reason for the episode after it was caught while flipping channels and texted to Chris; it is called the best moment of Caan's career, better than any Godfather moment, laying out the character's spine in four minutes.
  • It is called a favorite first date in movie history: Caan is two hours late, they scream at each other on the drive, and he tells a woman he just met about his prison fight with Morphus.
  • Caan called it the scene he was most proud of; it was filmed at a Howard Johnson's in Illinois that Mann had a connection to, and the wide shot is Heat DNA, though Heat never shows the two men together.
  • An amazing piece of filmmaking; the underrated part is the car speech before the diner, two people who have looked at each other for eight months cutting out the games. — Sean Fennessey
  • Caan cracking the love affair like a safe ("cut the mini moves and the bullshit and get on with this big romance") while being impatient with the woman he plans to marry is hilarious.
  • One-last-job movies raise the question of why not ask her out after the job; the woman complicating the last job is a Mann recurring thing.
  • Mann's top restaurants are ranked: diner, Chinese restaurant, Musso and Frank-style steakhouse, a close-booth place like Dan Tana's, and hibachi for the glimmering blades.
  • The Chinese-restaurant waiter gives a borderline Dion Waiters performance and is nicknamed David.
  • The elevator-shaft scene is weirdly harrowing and shows Mann's precision; it is liked more than the safe crack, though the opening keyhole-camera drilling sequence is great.
  • A first-time viewer at home was riveted by the talking but hid behind an iPad during the drilling; Fincher's Panic Room is imagined as a response to Thief.
  • Prosky lays down the law in an incredible monologue ("I run you", whacking out the whole family, wimpy burgers), shot upside down from Frank's POV, ending with Belushi dropped in acid.
  • Belushi's death scene could have used another minute of setup.
  • The ending is fun to watch but has issues: it hinges on Attaglia getting a glass of milk, Mann's written ending reunited Frank with Jessie, and seeing the girlfriend again would have been more satisfying.
  • Burning the postcard reads as Frank giving up the idea that he could be happy or emotionally available.
  • Biggest nit here: he should have gone back in the house and stolen things, though sparing Leo's wife is a purposeful choice by a man with a samurai code.
  • Mann repeatedly sends the wife packing, as in a two-part season-one Miami Vice episode and Heat's walk-away with Amy Brenneman in the car, which is called weird given the question of whether Mann himself hasn't been married to the same woman for about 50 years.
  • Final answer: the diner scene with Tuesday Weld, met with "Me too."
  • One more honorable mention is deferred to What's Aged the Best.

What’s Aged the Best?

Dialogue; Tangerine Dream; Frank's collage; "I want a boy" exchange; film debuts; 1980 Caan and John Belushi in Chicago; Belushi's sideburns; Tuesday Weld; Mann's nihilistic ending

In the discussion (12)
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  • The dialogue: Mamet-influenced; per a Belushi video interview, Mann insisted the characters never speak in contractions because they are so precise; it never dumbs down the Chicago underworld lingo for criminals or cops, including the beating speech. — Chris Ryan
  • Tangerine Dream, fresh off Sorcerer and before Risky Business; with Vangelis and Faltermeyer they were the cool music of the early 80s.
  • Frank's collage of children, a car and a house he doesn't have, his jailed mentor Willie Nelson and 12 skulls; jokes about a personal collage of Sean that is now an NFT, and Mann inventing Pinterest.
  • Caan saying "I want a boy" and Prosky answering "Done"; the second meeting in the bar is a favorite conversation ("Wham-Bam Magic Sam").
  • The film debuts of Jim Belushi, William Petersen, Dennis Farina, John Kapelos and Prosky; Farina was a Chicago policeman during filming, and Belushi was inspired casting.
  • A participant saw it in a Boston theater in 1981 at 11 or 12 with his dad and was puzzled by Jim Belushi, who looked like John Belushi, then still alive.
  • John Belushi visited the set, and the cast and crew hung out free all night at his Blues Brothers bar in Chicago; 1980 Caan and Belushi together must have produced stories.
  • Belushi's sideburns were fantastic.
  • Tuesday Weld: Wesley approved the take that Jessica Lange market-corrected her; she is terrific and perfect here, an Oscar nominee famous from Dobie Gillis who hasn't acted in 20 years, and, with a weak Best Supporting Actress category that year, could probably have nailed that down.
  • These films shortchange wife and girlfriend roles, but this one gives her a big scene to come off the bench and score 22.
  • Mann on the final decision, from the Ringer piece: having something makes Frank vulnerable, so the nihilistic act of destroying it returns his power.
  • A joke about deleting the feed after the last Mann movie, with Heat as the 500th episode alongside Tom Sizemore.

What’s Aged the Worst?

Razzie nomination for the score; Willie Nelson stunt casting; calls routed through bars

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  • The film was nominated for a Razzie for worst musical score, which invalidates the Razzies.
  • Willie Nelson's stunt casting, not his performance: like casting Taylor Swift now; he had deliberately started acting in Electric Horseman and Honeysuckle Rose and pulled back as Farm Aid grew, and he is so indelibly himself that his appearance feels like a dream sequence.
  • Caan and Nelson were the two draws when nobody knew Michael Mann or Thief.
  • Aged worst but worth bringing back: routing all communication through a favorite bar instead of Slack and texts, with a bar name like Chrissy's Fifth Amendment. — Chris Ryan
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  • Hard to award for a 40-year-old movie: Prosky and Dennis Farina were That Guys who became who they became.
  • A joke rename to a rookie-of-the-year award for this movie honors Prosky, Farina and Petersen breaking out and becoming staples for 30 years.
  • The only one who held That Guy status is Attaglia actor Tom Signorelli, always the eighth goon who never became famous.

Apex Mountain

Chicago diners; Robert Prosky death scenes; Joliet Prison

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  • James Caan, Tuesday Weld (though really good) and Michael Mann are all no.
  • Prosky is not at Apex despite a hell of a debut; he became Prosky in the early 90s with Hoffa and Mrs. Doubtfire.
  • Chicago diners are a yes.
  • Illegal adoption is floated as an Apex ("cut out the middleman") without an explicit yes, prompting a Thief 2 joke about Frank's grown son.
  • Willie Nelson is no.
  • Robert Prosky death scenes are a yes, one of the first times someone makes noise after being shot in the head.
  • Joliet Prison never got better than the Blues Brothers-Thief stretch; its Apex Mountain is somewhere in there.
  • For Chicago movies, candidates include The Blues Brothers, The Fugitive, Ferris Bueller, Home Alone (ruled suburban) and Hoop Dreams; the answer is Ferris Bueller.
  • Running Scared is raised; as its self-described number one fan he finds it tough, but Ferris Bueller uses Chicago the best. — Bill Simmons
  • Also named: The Untouchables, Widows, Candyman and Public Enemies; there haven't been enough good Chicago movies.

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

Modern-technology streaming version; eight-episode season about one job

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  • One answer is a flat no.
  • A 2021 streaming version would explore modern thief technology such as burners and encrypted texts, likely as an eight-episode season about one job.

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Frank's car; Prosky's yellow golf shirt; the thermal lance; the big bar booth

In the discussion (3)
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  • One of Frank's cars (an Oldsmobile throwback), or Prosky's yellow golf shirt tucked into khakis. — Chris Ryan
  • The 2,000-pound thermal lance, in case the garage needs burning down. — Sean Fennessey
  • The big booth from the bar, for the living room, with a whole story.
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  • Caan is the obvious answer, but Prosky is called one of the great crime-movie villains; no explicit final pick is stated in this turn.
  • One pick is Michael Mann.
  • Another pick is Jimmy Caan, who can't be shaken from the "I am a straight arrow" car speech.
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