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One participant cannot find a hot take.

Bill Simmons: One participant cannot find a hot take.

The film is called a perfect modern period piece, combining 1950s design with 1990s acting and cutting.

The film

L.A. Confidential (1997)

Directed by Curtis Hanson · Crime

138 minutes

Cast

Selected cast credits · Film reference

Kevin Spacey Detective Sergeant Jack "Hollywood Jack" Vincennes
Russell Crowe Officer Wendell "Bud" White
Guy Pearce Detective Lieutenant Edmund "Shotgun Ed" Exley
James Cromwell Captain Dudley Smith
Kim Basinger Lynn Bracken
Danny DeVito Sid Hudgens
David Strathairn Pierce Morehouse Patchett
Ron Rifkin District Attorney Ellis Loew
Graham Beckel Detective Sergeant Richard "Dick Stens" Stensland
Amber Smith Susan Lefferts
John Mahon Police Chief
Paul Guilfoyle Meyer "Mickey" Cohen
Matt McCoy Brett Chase
Paolo Seganti Johnny Stompanato
Simon Baker Matt Reynolds
Tomas Arana Detective Sergeant Michael Breuning
Michael McCleery Detective Sergeant William Carlisle
Shawnee Free Jones Tammy Jordan
Darrell Sandeen Leland "Buzz" Meeks
Gwenda Deacon Mrs. Lefferts
Jim Metzler Councilman
Brenda Bakke Lana Turner

Everything from the episode

In the order the hosts got to it. Open a row for the discussion.

10:54

Casting What-Ifs

Hansen wanted unfamiliar leads; McConaughey was reportedly considered, but is doubted as Exley. Matt Damon’s Departed...

Hansen wanted unfamiliar leads; McConaughey was reportedly considered, but is doubted as Exley. Matt Damon’s Departed role is compared with the part.

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  • Hansen wanted unfamiliar leads; McConaughey was reportedly considered, but is doubted as Exley. Matt Damon’s Departed role is compared with the part.
37:23

Half-Assed Internet Research

Hansen reportedly screened The Bad and the Beautiful, In a Lonely Place, The Lineup, Private Hell 36 and Kiss Me Dead...

Hansen reportedly screened The Bad and the Beautiful, In a Lonely Place, The Lineup, Private Hell 36 and Kiss Me Deadly for the cast.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hansen reportedly screened The Bad and the Beautiful, In a Lonely Place, The Lineup, Private Hell 36 and Kiss Me Deadly for the cast. — Andy Greenwald
  • Sterling Hayden in The Killing is discussed as an influence on Bud White; the novel’s Bud is much larger.
40:50

Recasting Couch

David Caruso as Jack Vincennes, after Sid is considered

David Caruso as Jack Vincennes, after Sid is considered

In the discussion (2)
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  • David Caruso is suggested for Sid, then preferred as Jack Vincennes; the latter fits the more worn-down book character. — Bill Simmons
  • Christian Bale is proposed as Exley in a mid-2000s version because of his intelligence and stiff posture.
47:40

Catherine Tramell Award: Would You Throw Your Life Away for This Obvious Stay-Away?

Kim Basinger’s character is endorsed as a strong obvious stay-away candidate.

Kim Basinger’s character is endorsed as a strong obvious stay-away candidate.

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1:03:25

Roger Ebert's review

In the discussion (1)
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  • Ebert gave four stars and called the film one of the year’s best; the hosts find the praise predictable. — Bill Simmons
1:03:25

Half-Assed Internet Research

A $35 million budget; gross unresolved pending a recording check

A $35 million budget; gross unresolved pending a recording check

In the discussion (1)
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  • A $35 million budget and gross transcribed as 1.26.2 million are reported; the gross needs a recording check. — Bill Simmons
1:03:51

Most Rewatchable Scene

Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s hou...

Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s house are nominated.

In the discussion (7)
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  • Bud meeting Lynn, Exley arriving at the Night Owl and removing his glasses for the photo, and Bud visiting Lynn’s house are nominated. — Bill Simmons
  • The interrogation scene is called a masterpiece, especially Exley moving between rooms, Bud with the chair, and deep-focus observers. — Bill Simmons
  • Bud killing the rapist, Shotgun Ed, Rollo Tomasi, the Stompanato scenes, Lynn seducing Exley, Jack’s death and the Rollo reveal are nominated.
  • Bud finding the photos, fighting then joining Exley, torturing the DA and the Victory Motel shootout are nominated.
  • The finale feels early to one viewer; its gun work and physical geography prompt comparison with Proof of Life and To Live and Die in LA. — Bill Simmons
  • The contrasting responses when the three cops are asked to inform are nominated, especially Jack’s face when threatened with losing the show.
  • The interrogation is selected for its live-microphone manipulation and switch sound effects. — Bill Simmons
1:04:55

Jesse Eisenberg “That’s good. You should be proud of that right there. Don’t worry if you don’t make it any further” Award for Best Line Reading

Jack’s dying Rollo Tomasi line is offered as a candidate; another participant reserves a different Spacey line for a ...

Jack’s dying Rollo Tomasi line is offered as a candidate; another participant reserves a different Spacey line for a flex pick.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Jack’s dying Rollo Tomasi line is offered as a candidate; another participant reserves a different Spacey line for a flex pick.
1:10:53

What’s Aged the Best?

College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts.

College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts.

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  • College boy as an insult is fondly recalled and compared with more recent political taunts. — Sean Fennessey
1:11:31

Most Rewatchable Scene

The interrogation scene is the shared final choice.

The interrogation scene is the shared final choice.

In the discussion (3)
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  • The interrogation is confirmed as the shared choice. — Andy Greenwald
  • Bud’s first visit to Pierce Patchett is another favorite, with praise for David Strathairn.
  • The post-shootout montage efficiently advances everyone’s story, though it skips potentially interesting freeway and party material.
1:11:36

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.

David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.

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  • David Strathairn’s brief Patchett performance is flagged as a Dion candidate.
1:14:50

The most 1997 thing

Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered.

Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered.

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  • Young Crowe and Spacey on the poster are offered. — Bill Simmons
  • The existence of this kind of novel adaptation as a theatrical film is proposed; another response argues book adaptations remain viable. — Andy Greenwald
1:16:21

Gandolfini Butter on My Ass So It Pops in My Mouth Award

Scared characters with puddles of urine are enjoyed, with two examples in this film.

Scared characters with puddles of urine are enjoyed, with two examples in this film.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Scared characters with puddles of urine are enjoyed, with two examples in this film. — Bill Simmons
  • 1950s Cadillac El Dorados are another pleasure. — Sean Fennessey
  • A seemingly kindly old Irishman who is secretly evil is a favorite device, compared with The Town. — Chris Ryan
  • Men instructed to pursue justice without mercy are offered as a tailored pleasure. — Bill Simmons
1:17:25

What’s Aged the Best?

Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent.

Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent.

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  • Tabloid culture, outsiders’ difficult LA adjustment and audiences’ interest in morally complex genre stories remain pertinent. — Bill Simmons
  • Brief characters who become stars of their own scene are praised, including the coroner and Stensland. — Andy Greenwald
  • Patchett’s blackmail recalls Epstein; Dudley’s instruction about shooting criminals in the back pays off in his own death. — Sean Fennessey
  • Corrupt cops and departments shunning one of their own remain effective dramatic material.
  • Having someone cut to resemble a star and dated slang such as swish and AC/DC are enjoyed. — Chris Ryan
1:22:56

The Great Shot Gordo Award for Most Cinematic Shot

The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect

The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect

In the discussion (4)
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  • The layered interrogation reflection with Jack, Dudley, Exley and the waiting suspect is selected. — Bill Simmons
  • The split-diopter DA shot, Exley raising his badge in shadow, and police cars cresting the hill are praised.
  • The zoom framing Bud and Exley facing off in the street is nominated. — Chris Ryan
  • The moving camera contrasts the group comforting Stensland with isolated Exley; Bud above Patchett on the putting green visually divides them. — Sean Fennessey
1:24:50

Chest Rockwell / Brock Landers Award for Best Character Name

Hollywood Jack, the Big V, Pierce Morehouse Patchett’s initials, Buzz Meeks and Dick Stensland are nominated.

Hollywood Jack, the Big V, Pierce Morehouse Patchett’s initials, Buzz Meeks and Dick Stensland are nominated.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hollywood Jack, the Big V, Pierce Morehouse Patchett’s initials, Buzz Meeks and Dick Stensland are nominated. — Andy Greenwald
  • Unnamed councilmen and the police chief are jokingly considered missed naming opportunities. — Andy Greenwald
1:25:42

The Amanda Dobbins Award for Best Piece of Real Estate

Lynn’s Hancock Park house

Lynn’s Hancock Park house

Flex pick · Bill Simmons

In the discussion (3)
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  • Lynn’s Hancock Park house is favored; a personal open-house visit and later reported $7.5 million sale are discussed.
  • A flex selector chooses Patchett’s house, identified as the Lovell house by Neutra; another participant wanted a larger interior. — Bill Simmons
  • Bob’s Market in Echo Park is additionally mentioned as a recognizable Fast and Furious location.
1:29:00

Sean Fennessey Award for Stealth Homage That Gives Every Movie Nerd a Criterion Orgasm

Roman Holiday plays on the couple’s date; The Bad and the Beautiful appears on the Pantages marquee beside the Frolic...

Roman Holiday plays on the couple’s date; The Bad and the Beautiful appears on the Pantages marquee beside the Frolic Room, linking to an acknowledged influence.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Roman Holiday plays on the couple’s date; The Bad and the Beautiful appears on the Pantages marquee beside the Frolic Room, linking to an acknowledged influence. — Bill Simmons
1:29:36

Sean Fennessey Award for Stealth Homage That Gives Every Movie Nerd a Criterion Orgasm

The score is said to draw from Leonard Bernstein’s On the Waterfront music.

The score is said to draw from Leonard Bernstein’s On the Waterfront music.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The score is said to draw from Leonard Bernstein’s On the Waterfront music. — Sean Fennessey
1:30:34

Jesse Eisenberg “That’s good. You should be proud of that right there. Don’t worry if you don’t make it any further” Award for Best Line Reading

Jack asking why Exley wants to dig deeper into the Night Owl killings is the flex selection.

Jack asking why Exley wants to dig deeper into the Night Owl killings is the flex selection.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The flex choice is the line asking why anyone would dig deeper into the Night Owl killings. — Bill Simmons
1:31:00

The Butch’s Girlfriend Award for the Weakest Link in the Film

Basinger, reluctantly and without a firm argument

Basinger, reluctantly and without a firm argument

In the discussion (4)
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  • Basinger is written down reluctantly without a firm argument.
  • DeVito is criticized as an unconvincing Italian actor playing a Jewish character.
  • The unclear passage of years and heroin plot are raised, though the time issue is partly withdrawn. — Andy Greenwald
  • DeVito’s familiar comic persona and broad acting distract, although his opening narration works. — Chris Ryan
1:33:25

Recasting Couch

Buscemi and Kevin Pollak are suggested for Sid.

Buscemi and Kevin Pollak are suggested for Sid.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Buscemi and Kevin Pollak are suggested for Sid. — Chris Ryan
  • Billy Crystal is preferred if casting a famous star; Larry David is a dream choice because his face was less familiar in 1997.
  • Billy Crystal is rejected as too famous; the counterargument prefers him if the part requires a celebrity. — Bill Simmons
  • A Sid alternative transcribed as Panow is suggested; the actor identity remains unresolved. — Chris Ryan
1:34:55

What’s Aged the Worst?

Spacey’s reputation and reported conduct toward Pearce are raised; Ellroy’s shifting opinion of the adaptation is noted.

Spacey’s reputation and reported conduct toward Pearce are raised; Ellroy’s shifting opinion of the adaptation is noted.

In the discussion (5)
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  • Kevin Spacey’s reported behavior on set toward Guy Pierce is discussed alongside James Elroy’s shifting assessments of the film. — Bill Simmons
  • Patchett’s house is again criticized as insufficiently extravagant.
  • The opening promise of abundant jobs, cheap land and homeownership, plus downtown-to-beach travel in twenty minutes, feels dated. — Bill Simmons
  • Bud’s beating should have killed Exley or caused more damage.
  • Using photos of Lynn and Exley to provoke Bud seems unnecessarily elaborate when the villains could simply kill Exley.
1:38:35

The Ruffalo / Hanna / Rubinek / Partridge Overacting Award

The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon

The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon

In the discussion (1)
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  • The mother identifying her daughter, named as Gwenda Deacon, is selected; the exaggerated performance becomes worse over repeated scenes. — Chris Ryan
1:39:28

Picking Nits

Patchett’s business background prompts the objection that gambling should be part of his criminal operation.

Patchett’s business background prompts the objection that gambling should be part of his criminal operation.

In the discussion (1)
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  • Patchett’s business background prompts the objection that gambling should be part of his criminal operation. — Andy Greenwald
1:40:14

The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One participant cannot find a hot take.

One participant cannot find a hot take.

In the discussion (4)
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  • One participant cannot find a hot take. — Bill Simmons
  • The film is called a perfect modern period piece, combining 1950s design with 1990s acting and cutting.
  • It is called the second-best Wizard of Oz adaptation: Bud needs brains, Ed a heart, Jack courage, Lynn home, and Dudley is the wizard. — Chris Ryan
  • Patchett’s exploitative celebrity-lookalike business is jokingly praised as commercially brilliant and compared with deepfakes. — Sean Fennessey
1:43:28

Casting What-Ifs

McConaughey reportedly regretted declining, Crowe was persuaded after refusing, and an Isabella Scorupco offer is exp...

McConaughey reportedly regretted declining, Crowe was persuaded after refusing, and an Isabella Scorupco offer is explicitly doubted alongside reports Basinger was first choice.

In the discussion (3)
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  • McConaughey reportedly regretted declining, Crowe was persuaded after refusing, and an Isabella Scorupco offer is explicitly doubted alongside reports Basinger was first choice. — Bill Simmons
  • A Michael Madsen as Bud report is rejected as implausible. — Bill Simmons
  • A Pamela Anderson as Lynn report is also disbelieved; the hosts discuss unreliable trivia accumulating over time.
1:45:35

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

David Strathairn, Ron Rifkin and Matt McCoy are candidates, with Rifkin’s first name corrected from Rob to Ron.

David Strathairn, Ron Rifkin and Matt McCoy are candidates, with Rifkin’s first name corrected from Rob to Ron.

In the discussion (3)
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1:46:56

The Joey Pants “That Guy” Award

John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.

John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.

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  • John Mahone is a favored choice as the police chief, with other authority roles cited; Paul Guilfoyle is also mentioned.
1:48:23

The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

Unresolved “Adam”; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker also considered

Unresolved “Adam”; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker also considered

In the discussion (1)
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  • The brief answer is transcribed as Adam and remains unresolved; Dick Stensland and Simon Baker are other candidates.
1:48:47

Recasting Couch

The Dudley suggestion observed as Apostle/postuate (identity unresolved; may signal villainy too early)

The Dudley suggestion observed as Apostle/postuate (identity unresolved; may signal villainy too early)

In the discussion (3)
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  • A Dudley suggestion transcribed as Apostle/postuate is praised for Irish authenticity but may signal villainy too early; the identity needs confirmation.
  • Campbell Scott, Josh Charles, Matt Damon and Ed Norton are proposed for Exley; Norton’s availability is questioned.
  • Ed Burns as Exley is considered, prompting recollection of a detective show.
1:50:52

The Big Kahuna Burger Award for Best Use of Food and Drink

Simple liquor stores, Stensland’s two-liquor punch, and Stompanato’s Schlitz at Formosa

Simple liquor stores, Stensland’s two-liquor punch, and Stompanato’s Schlitz at Formosa

Flex pick · Andy Greenwald

In the discussion (2)
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  • The flex discussion enjoys liquor stores with simple choices, Stensland pouring both liquors into punch, and Stompanato drinking Schlitz at Formosa.
  • Matt Reynolds’s autopsy stomach contents are offered as a darkly comic last meal. — Andy Greenwald
1:52:47

Half-Assed Internet Research

Camera angles reportedly excluded later tall buildings, and Pearce wore a wig for the fight shot months after princip...

Camera angles reportedly excluded later tall buildings, and Pearce wore a wig for the fight shot months after principal photography.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Camera angles reportedly excluded later tall buildings, and Pearce wore a wig for the fight shot months after principal photography. — Andy Greenwald
  • Daryl Gates’s congratulatory cameo is called controversial. — Andy Greenwald
  • Inez has a much larger role in the novel.
  • Patchett’s house and Lynn’s house are real locations; the Victory Motel was built near oil fields. — Bill Simmons
1:54:12

Apex Mountain

No affirmative selection

No affirmative selection

In the discussion (7)
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  • Crowe is rejected; Spacey’s run is accepted, with this film versus American Beauty debated. — Bill Simmons
  • Pearce’s Memento period is proposed; another view favors his post-Brutalist standing, with concern about his social-media activity. — Bill Simmons
  • Chinatown wins for LA noir; Basinger’s Nine and a Half Weeks/Batman era is favored over this film.
  • DeVito is rejected; evil Cromwell is praised, though Star Trek and Succession are other favorites. — Bill Simmons
  • St. Elmo’s Fire and The Big Lebowski are raised for toilet dunking; dangling a man out a window is also considered.
  • The Aviator’s Howard Hughes home is favored for Hancock Park movie houses. — Bill Simmons
  • Heart-shot acting is nominated, especially the cartoon-watching victim and Jack; time to death is debated without medical certainty. — Bill Simmons
2:00:51

Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise as Exley.

Cruise as Exley.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Hanks as Hollywood Jack is offered, but Cruise as Exley wins the comparison.
  • Later Hanks as Dudley is suggested for a surprise villain turn, with Road to Perdition and Cloud Atlas discussed. — Craig Horlbeck
2:02:14

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Scorsese, with interest in Spielberg’s version.

Scorsese, with interest in Spielberg’s version.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Scorsese is the initial choice, though Spielberg could handle the less sordid script.
  • Dreyfuss is suggested for Sid, while a defense of Hansen’s distinctive professionalism is raised. — Bill Simmons
2:04:41

Best Hang / Worst Hang

Lynn, Hollywood Jack and Patchett are best-hang choices, with club access and golf among the attractions.

Lynn, Hollywood Jack and Patchett are best-hang choices, with club access and golf among the attractions.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Lynn, Hollywood Jack and Patchett are best-hang choices, with club access and golf among the attractions. — Bill Simmons
  • Dudley’s whiskey and knowledge are considered; Stensland and Mrs. Lefferts are worst-hang suggestions. — Bill Simmons
2:05:29

Picking Nits

Basinger’s resemblance and acting style are questioned against the more playful Veronica Lake.

Basinger’s resemblance and acting style are questioned against the more playful Veronica Lake.

In the discussion (3)
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  • Basinger’s resemblance and acting style are questioned against the more playful Veronica Lake. — Bill Simmons
  • The Lana Turner likeness works, but her Stompanato relationship is said to be shifted earlier. — Bill Simmons
  • Minor anachronism hunting is dismissed; Dudley’s no-glasses assertion is contradicted by another cop at the party. — Sean Fennessey
2:07:18

Sequel, Prequel, Limited Series, or All-Black Remake

A 1974-set sequel with Chadwick Boseman, Crowe and Pearce reportedly failed to happen.

A 1974-set sequel with Chadwick Boseman, Crowe and Pearce reportedly failed to happen.

In the discussion (2)
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2:09:09

Is This Movie Better With…?

A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation.

A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation.

In the discussion (2)
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  • A Zane Lowe impression interviews Dudley about his move into crime, followed by a Matt Reynolds variation. — Andy Greenwald
  • Adding Shams to the impression category is proposed through Sid’s style of basketball reporting. — Sean Fennessey
2:11:18

Just One Oscar

Cinematographer Dante Spinotti

Cinematographer Dante Spinotti

In the discussion (1)
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  • Cinematographer Dante Spinotti is chosen; the film lost all seven other nominations to Titanic.
2:12:29

Probably Unanswerable Questions

Exley’s attraction to Lynn is interpreted as possibly involving Bud; removing Inez’s book relationship changes his ch...

Exley’s attraction to Lynn is interpreted as possibly involving Bud; removing Inez’s book relationship changes his characterization.

In the discussion (4)
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  • Exley’s attraction to Lynn is interpreted as possibly involving Bud; removing Inez’s book relationship changes his characterization.
  • Would the film improve if Bud died, and how could he and Lynn support themselves in Arizona after his injuries? — Bill Simmons
  • Ending at the motel is proposed, omitting the explanatory finale compared with Psycho. — Bill Simmons
  • Would Shams adopting Sid’s tabloid style make sports reporting more entertaining?
2:13:52

Clarence Worley Should Have Died

Bud should die heroically

Bud should die heroically

Flex pick · Sean Fennessey

In the discussion (1)
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  • A flex choice argues Bud should die heroically; seeing him in the car and the final Arizona line deflate the ending. — Bill Simmons
2:17:14

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

The Night Owl mug; Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses; Victory Motel matches (unconfirmed); Rollo Tomasi (not tangible)

The Night Owl mug; Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses; Victory Motel matches (unconfirmed); Rollo Tomasi (not tangible)

In the discussion (1)
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  • The Night Owl mug is favored; Rollo Tomasi is questioned as a tangible object, Victory Motel matches are unconfirmed, and Jack’s tortoiseshell sunglasses are offered.
2:17:51

What Piece of Memorabilia Would You Want From This Movie?

Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.

Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.

In the discussion (2)
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  • Fleur-de-Lis business cards are another subtle recognition item.
  • The Hush Hush cover seen in the opening is selected as an item to mix with ordinary magazines. — Bill Simmons
2:18:54

The Coach Finstock Award for Best Life Lesson

The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.

The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.

In the discussion (1)
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  • The line contrasting men who get the world with an ex-hooker and an Arizona trip is offered as the lesson.
2:18:54

Best Double Feature

Chinatown is offered as the obvious pairing; Who Framed Roger Rabbit shares postwar detectives, cover-ups and highway...
In the discussion (5)
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  • Chinatown is offered as the obvious pairing; Who Framed Roger Rabbit shares postwar detectives, cover-ups and highway development.
  • In a Lonely Place and Touch of Evil are suggested; The Black Dahlia is offered as a comparison more than an enjoyable film.
  • The Blue Dahlia is recommended as a less-seen noir featuring Veronica Lake and Alan Ladd, with a Chandler screenplay. — Sean Fennessey
  • Gaslit by My Husband is jokingly proposed to watch first; In a Lonely Place is reiterated. — Chris Ryan
  • Hollywoodland is an additional late double-feature suggestion. — Chris Ryan
2:20:36

Who Won the Movie?

Russell Crowe; the writers

Russell Crowe; the writers

In the discussion (3)
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  • The opening answer sounds like Curtis Hansen, followed by a name transcribed as Hell, Golland; both identities remain uncertain in this passage. — Chris Ryan
  • Crowe is declared the winner for the breakout launching a decade of major stardom. — Sean Fennessey
  • The writers are separately favored for shaping the screenplay. — Sean Fennessey
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2:21:44

Producer review

Liked the three leads and story; disliked the film, DeVito, Basinger, and cheesy dialogue

Liked the three leads and story; disliked the film, DeVito, Basinger, and cheesy dialogue

In the discussion (3)
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  • The producer liked the lead three actors and story but did not love the film; DeVito, Basinger and the dialogue felt cheesy.
  • The response acknowledges a clunky line, recommends a second viewing and emphasizes the period lexicon and noir influences. — Craig Horlbeck
  • Gangster Squad and Live by Night illustrate similar films that struggle; Hollywoodland is offered as a pairing.

More from the conversation

The quartet reunites in a new Hollywood studio for the last episode of CR Month; a forthcoming San Francisco Basic Instinct live show is separately promoted.
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The 1997 film year is illustrated with Titanic, Boogie Nights, Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, and Jackie Brown; the film was the critics’ favorite but unlikely to beat Titanic at the Oscars.
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The film is praised as a complete Hollywood achievement across acting, writing, cinematography, direction and music, despite smoothing the novel’s edges.
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Crowe and Pearce’s diverging careers are discussed; Pearce’s unusual quality and post-Memento potential for Nolan roles invite comparison with Christian Bale.
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The film captures Los Angeles as seductive, corrupt and destructive of dreams; its surviving period locations are compared with Boogie Nights and Swingers.
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Ellroy’s LA Quartet is discussed, with The Big Nowhere singled out as a favorite; the adaptation reduces the larger novel to three cops and uses short scenes to maintain page-turning momentum.
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Asked about adapting books, the response cites Briarpatch and argues for identifying what the adapter loves rather than preserving every detail; Hansen’s image-based pitch supplied clear pillars.
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White Jazz’s unmade adaptation and The Black Dahlia illustrate the novels’ difficulty; the film’s ruthless structure and commercially minded choices are praised.
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Hansen’s work is compared with Ron Howard’s professionalism; The Hand That Rocks the Cradle demonstrates strong craft elevating an outlandish premise.
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The film’s themes include desire, tabloid culture, brutality, racism, blackmail, and the coexistence of real and fake Los Angeles; the Lana Turner misunderstanding is highlighted.
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The three cops’ answers about informing distinguish their archetypes; each wants something he lacks, and together they represent complementary forms of masculinity.
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Rollo Tomasi is praised as a subtle screenplay invention; the first-time viewer caught the twist but struggled with surnames, while the novel’s heroin story is reduced.
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Mad Men and Babylon are compared as depictions of Los Angeles optimism and reinvention; the film’s 1950s setting differs from classic noir eras.
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Spacey’s performance is praised as his best for subtle facial acting, ambiguity and self-loathing, particularly finding Matt’s body; the hosts also discuss the actor’s troubling public reputation.
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Spacey’s difficulty playing a normal benevolent figure is contrasted with Jack Lemmon; his Oscar reportedly helped finance a project centered on unfamiliar leads.
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Basinger’s Oscar is disputed: one response calls her distracting, while others say the win distorts a competent performance and note Hansen’s opportunities for playful acting.
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The supporting-actress field is discussed: Joan Cusack and Minnie Driver are praised, Julianne Moore is strongly preferred to Basinger, and Boogie Nights’ pornography stigma is offered as a possible reason.
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Basinger’s likability and awards sweep are offered as explanations; alternatives include Bridget Fonda, Heather Graham, Sigourney Weaver and Parker Posey.
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A new IMDb known-for guessing game uses James Cromwell; the hosts are surprised Babe is missing and disagree over which platform/list is being viewed.
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Cromwell’s trusted Babe persona makes Dudley’s villain reveal effective, compared with Ronny Cox’s RoboCop turn.
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Oscar discussion argues Spacey deserved a supporting nomination; Pearce is preferred over Crowe for a lead nomination, with Crowe’s American accent questioned.
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Runtime prompts debate about a limited series; failed television attempts and the film’s efficiency oppose the idea, while a whole LA Quartet adaptation with a continuing Dudley is entertained.
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Crowe reportedly abstained from drinking during filming after Ellroy said Bud did not drink; the tangent lists famous drinking actors and a Jaws production story.
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An almost-new Pierce Patchett award for a reprehensible but effective plot business idea is floated inside the hot take; it is not an adopted category.
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Hansen’s suspense craft prompts The River Wild and Gaslit by My Husband discussion; Gaslighting Month is proposed, not assigned to this episode.
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Psycho and Vertigo are discussed as potential future episodes; the Psycho explanatory speech is criticized while Norman’s final interior voice is defended.
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A formative 1997 moviegoing year is illustrated with The Game, Crash, Contact, Private Parts, Night Falls on Manhattan, I Know What You Did Last Summer, Wag the Dog, In and Out, In the Company of Men, Event Horizon and Liar Liar; this is not a ranked list.
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CR Month closes with five films and a mailbag; Sicario and recording with friends are named highlights.
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Future discussions include another CR Month, Eddie and the Cruisers in uncertain ASR, and From Hell Month candidates Breakdown, Duel, Domestic Disturbance and A Perfect Getaway; Hawaii recording is hypothetical.
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