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Kindergarten Cop

Hans Gruber Scale Villain Ranking

Crisp: 6.5/10 and 4/10; his mother: 4/10

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  • Crisp receives6.5 for being strange and scary, his interrogation taunt, ponytail and clothing, despite limited material. — Bill Simmons
  • A second view gives both Crisp and his mother4 and recalls Richard Tyson in3 o clock high and Two Moon Junction as distracting baggage. — Bill Simmons
  • Brad Wesley in Roadhouse is judged a more consistently effective villain; Crisp’s escalation and uncertain degree of evil are criticized. — Bill Simmons
  • A reported account says test audiences sympathized with Crisp, prompting added nasty behavior; the toy-set assault is suggested as a possible addition. — Bill Simmons
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Did This Movie Need a Random Sports Scene?

A recess sports sequence with Schwarzenegger and the children is wanted, especially dodgeball.

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  • Tag, dodgeball or kickball with Schwarzenegger ordering children around is proposed as irresistible viewing that could have preceded Billy Madison. — Bill Simmons
  • Making the abused child a dodgeball hero is floated; the need for another such scene is reiterated. — Kyle Brandt
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The Stephen A. Smith Hottest Take Award

One hot take provocatively defends Crisp; the other would sacrifice the movie to prevent inferior copies.

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  • Crisp is provocatively defended as a father seeking his son, reframing Kimball and the mother negatively despite Crisp’s violence. — Kyle Brandt
  • Over the Top and Commando are comparisons for a father trying to recover a child; Kimball’s separation from his own son is contrasted with Crisp’s persistence. — Bill Simmons
  • The response calls the take great and really impressive. — Kyle Brandt
  • The second take would erase Kindergarten Cop to avoid dozens of bad imitators, using an exaggerated Oppenheimer analogy and citing The Tooth Fairy. — Kyle Brandt
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Casting What-Ifs

Reported alternatives include Murray and Swayze; DeVito, O’Hara, Bullock, Wood, Slater and an uncertain Hepburn story follow.

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  • Bill Murray and Patrick Swayze are reported as lead considerations; Murray is rejected by the speakers, Swayze interests them, and a later Keanu Reeves/Hardball version is imagined while Schwarzenegger remains preferred. — Kyle Brandt
  • Roadhouse dialogue, throat-ripping and a crude prison taunt are jokingly transplanted into Kindergarten Cop rather than reported as actual scenes. — Bill Simmons
  • Reported DeVito consideration is questioned because the police role seems implausible despite the opposite height joke; a Roadhouse crossover with Sam Elliott is imagined. — Bill Simmons
  • Catherine O Hara is reported unavailable because of Home Alone; Sandra Bullock and Elijah Wood are said not to have landed parts. The speaker’s identification of Joyce as the abused child’s mother is uncertain. — Bill Simmons
  • Christian Slater is said to have been considered for Crisp after Heathers but to have chosen Pump Up the Volume, which receives approval. — Bill Simmons
  • A story that Audrey Hepburn rejected Eleanor Crisp because she loved children is explicitly treated as unverified; the thermometer scene is joked about.
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The Dion Waiters Award for Best Heat Check Performance

The overalls girl and anatomy-line child are the Heat Check candidates.

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  • The overalls/bathroom girl is favored for unpredictable energy and her later exchanges with Schwarzenegger; unscripted behavior is speculation. — Kyle Brandt
  • The penis/vagina kid is the alternative; he is said to have played Gage in the film transcribed Pet Cemetery, with the actor name unstated. — Bill Simmons
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Recasting Couch

Cameron is proposed to direct; Roberts, Cage, Turner and several mother-role alternatives are suggested.

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Half-Assed Internet Research

Research reports the school location, a private workout gym, deleted scenes, a Criterion prank and five rules for child actors.

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  • Filming at John Jacob Astor Elementary in Astoria, Schwarzenegger’s requested private gym and five cut Stephen Root scenes are reported; details beyond the deleted-scene anecdote are unknown. — Kyle Brandt
  • Criterion is said to have announced a prank disc release on April1,2012; a later4K release is mentioned. — Bill Simmons
  • The Goonies house is reported roughly1.6 miles from the school. — Bill Simmons
  • Reitman’s five rules are recited: listen, act naturally, know the character, avoid looking at the camera and be disciplined; camera awareness is thought hardest. — Bill Simmons
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Apex Mountain

Schwarzenegger; action/kids hybrids; Astoria; comic tumor references; Brookstone: yes

In the discussion (6)
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  • The earlier Schwarzenegger apex choice is reaffirmed. — Kyle Brandt
  • Two Moon Junction is preferred for Richard Tyson; Penelope Miller’s apex is left uncertain. — Kyle Brandt
  • Miller’s work with Pacino, De Niro and Brando is praised and IMDb’s four highlighted films are listed; hybrid action/kids movies get a yes. — Bill Simmons
  • Ghostbusters is preferred for Reitman, Astoria gets yes, undercover-cop movies no, and tumors yes specifically in a comic catchphrase sense. — Bill Simmons
  • Brookstone is added enthusiastically, though the store in When Harry Met Sally is uncertain between Brookstone and Sharper Image. — Kyle Brandt
  • Expensive gadgets, grip toys, headphones and novelty office objects prompt nostalgic store memories. — Kyle Brandt
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Cruise or Hanks?

Cruise is preferred; Hanks with children and Cruise as Crisp are also considered.

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  • Cruise is chosen despite seeing how Hanks could work with the children; Jerry Maguire desperation and awkward romance are imagined. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise losing control on the first classroom day is a particular attraction. — Bill Simmons
  • Cruise as Crisp in Frank T.J. Mackie mode is another appealing possibility. — Kyle Brandt
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